Consider 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. This should give you a starting point to answer your question.
Can LGBTQ individuals be saved?
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amigo de christo
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It is a question that terrifies this church age . But allow me to answer it .
Yes , a gay can be saved . IF HE BELIEVES ON JESUS and thus darn sure would repent of that sin .
NOW if a homosexual claims to BELIEVE ON JESUS
and yet JUSTIFIES HIS SIN , and hollers God is love and all is well . WELL THEN
that one came to wrong jesus and that jesus cannot save them .
JESUS dont honor or support ANY SIN , and yes that would include homosexaulity .
BUT we all were massive sinners ,walking in darkness
AND we were drawn to CHRIST . AND THE CONVERSION was a true one cause we repented of said sins .
Now he or she who REMANS IN SIN and JUSTIFIES SIN , well they have NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST .
And if a man has not the SPIRIT of CHRIST , well then , HE IS NONE OF HIS .
SO i advise us all to PREACH JESUS TO ALL
and ENSURE WE IN THEM BIBLES to learn . cause many preach another jesus and that one cannot save .
amigo de christo
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he does call him wicked .@rvmb
Nowhere does Paul ever call believers wicked persons.
Paul exposes this here and says they are outsiders, whom God will judge.
This particular person was in a gross sexual immorality, in the church as a member and unsaved according to v5
Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 5 - 21st Century King James Version
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, of such a kind as is not so much as even named among the Gentiles: that one should have his father's wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. For I...www.biblegateway.com
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, of such a kind as is not so much as even named among the Gentiles: that one should have his father’s wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, though absent in body but present in spirit, have judged already as though I were present concerning him who hath so done this deed:
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, I being there in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord Jesus.
6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ, our Passover, is sacrificed for us.
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to keep company with fornicators—
10 yet not meaning altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters, for to do so ye would need to go out of the world.
11 But I now have written unto you not to keep company with any man who is called a brother if he is a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner. With such a one you are not even to eat.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do not ye judge those who are within?
13 But those who are outside, God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Did you know that man paul wrote about sorrowed to REPENTANCE . He did .
And by the second letter paul was telling them to go ahead and bring him back in .......lest over much sorrow etc .
But since we are on this topic .
HOW come when men like me warn against sin in the church and remind all that we ought not keep
company with beleivers in sin , DO I GET CALLED a hater and a judger .
WE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS for their good and THE GOOD of the church .
Dont we know a little leaven will LEAVEN the WHOLE LUMP .
NOW go to and behold these judge nots , these seeker friendly churches .
YOU SEE what this judge not DID TO THEM .
HECK I NOW SEE RAINBOWS in some , I SEE korans even being kissed in some , as if we all serve the same GOD .
THAT IS WHAT leaven does WHEN LEAVEN IS NOT PURGED OUT , IS NOT CORRECTED.
So i say for us who name the name OF JESUS , we better get real busy learning and a heeding THEIR WORDS
in said bible , that pattern . ITS THE ONLY PATTERN that WORKS . IT was INSPIRED BY THE SPIRIT to help keep
the church safe . In other words , OH YEAH ITS B IBLE TIME IN THE HOUSE .
Dan Clarkston
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ONLY if they repent of their sexual perversion.
One cannot walk after the flesh and still be saved and the Holy Spirit never once led anybody in to sexual perversion
He is absolutely correct, they cannot.
Now, some tares claiming to be Christians will come along shortly claiming they can but these people are tares who speak in behalf of their father the devil as they are fake christians who were sent by the devil to try and deceive real Christians in to turning away from God's Word and start following doctrines of demons.
Also, beware of the so called "once saved, always saved" camp as they will falsely claim if some on turns gay after having been born again that they will still go to Heaven which is false doctrine. The OSAS people believe people can live in sin and still be saved and they frequently tell people that they are sinners so they are sin friendly by their own admission.
Dan Clarkston
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That's false doctrine. Jesus went to the Cross for the sins of ALL
God predestined ALL to be saved, and then many allowed satan to blind their eyes to prevent them from seeing the Gospel
See - Romans 8:29-30, Romans 1:19-21, Titus 2:11-12, 1 John 2:2, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 Timothy 2:1-4, Acts 17:30, John 12:32, Hebrews 2:9, John 3:16, Matthew 5:6
Yes, he did repent of his wickedness and the church welcomed him back. Someday we will fully understand.
1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Corinthians 5:10-12 - New King James Version
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your...
Be Reconciled to God
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.
12 For we do not commend ourselves again to you, but give you opportunity to boast on our behalf, that you may have an answer for those who boast in appearance and not in heart.
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Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 9 - New King James Version
A Pattern of Self-Denial - Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. My defense to those who examine me is this: Do...
15 But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. 16 For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel! 17 For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship. 18 What is my reward then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the gospel [d]of Christ without charge, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel.
Serving All Men
19 For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; 20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the [e]law, that I might win those who are under the law; 21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without [f]law toward God, but under [g]law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became [h]as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.Striving for a Crown
24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may [i]obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize [j]is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
Dan Clarkston
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Yes, IF they repent of the sin (sexual perversion)
If they continue in their sexual perversion then they are not walking after the Spirit but walking after the flesh and they reap corruption.
The corrupt won't be accepted by the Lord in to His Kingdom.
mailmandan
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I can't name one Christian in the OSAS camp that I know personally who falsely claims that and I certainly don't falsely claim that.
Ephesians 4:31 - Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
amigo de christo
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Even the very works of the pharisees were seen and known BY GOD to be dead .I can't name one Christian in the OSAS camp that I know personally who falsely claims that and I certainly don't falsely claim that.
Ephesians 4:31 - Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
YE are they who just ify yourselves before men .
Plus they often taught precepts of men .
Their works they did were to be SEEN by men , to appear righteous unto men . BUT GOD knows
the heart of every man woman and child .
Not only what we do but why we do . You are correct though about it not being b y works of righteousness
that one can be truly justified before GOD .
ONLY ONE WAY . The just shall walk by faith .
And if ones faith BE NOT IN JESUS THE CHRIST , THERE FAITH BE NOT IN GOD .
Only ONE way to be justifed , made the righteousness of GOD , saved . HIS NAME BE JESUS THE CHRIST
and its absolutely dire that one BELIEVES on HIM .
Now for part two .
IF the jesus anyone cometh to honors and supports their sins , THIS IS the very jesus they have their faith in
One that has g iven them their sinful hearts lustful desires with a promise of salvation .
NOW by very denfintion , THAT jesus AINT JESUS . Its another jesus . And b eleive me , that jesus cannot
save you , me or any man . Its simply a lip only heart far from GOD delusion .
THE TRUE GOD changes the heart .
Many in even false religoins can give much to the poor , IT will profit them nothing and only damantion
awaits them all . For WHEN HE CALLED them b y the gospel THEY REJECTED .
Yes mr kuwn we are being lied to by interfaith interreligous anti christ dialouge for peace .
Its peace is not of GOD . FOR by its means to attain PEACE in this world , IT HAS DENIED THE ONLY ONE
b y whom WE MUST BELIEVE IN , for to attain peace with GOD .
The peace of GOD , IS THE GOSPEL of GOD . FOR unto all who do BELEIVE IN JESUS they have PEACE with GOD .
But woe unto all who joined hand in hand with this anti christ peace of this ecuemneical whore of all harlots .
mailmandan
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LGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.
amigo de christo
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the inclusive religion is THE ONE WORLD RELIGIONLGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.www.foxnews.com
and that of many anti christs .
IT will lead all into the u pmost rebellion of GOD , of CHRIST .
But all will beleive its love , its of GOD , and his plan for peace in the world .
ONLY , it AINT OF GOD . IT was always of the dark one .
amigo de christo
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never bend the knee to sensual love . the moment a man does HE IS DOOMED . Lest of course one rebukes himLGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.
and he gets off that path .
OH YES my friend . ALL SIN and all er ror should have been corrected in those churches .
but judge not seeker f riendly dung became the motto and when it did ...........
WELL do i need to say any more . LOOK what happened as MORE LEAVEN entered and took the lump fuller and fuller
into ERROR .
amigo de christo
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To the world it was sold as tolerance . Once sold and once boughtLGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.
the evil took full advantage as MOUTHS WERE CLOSED that once corrected under guise of tolerance .
IT was sold to the churches as the judge not seeker friendly . And once again
when MOUTHS that correct were silenced , GUESS what TOOK OVER SOCIETY and THE CHURCHES .
AND all IN THE NAME OF LOVE AND TOLERANCE
and to the churches and false religoins as THE LOVE OF GOD and TOLERANCE .
SOMEBUDDY LIED to them all and sadly MANY LOVED a LIE . Dont expect anything good
to come out of THAT MESS . ONLY A SOCIETY , churches and merged false religions .
AND THEY ALL WILL BELEIVE THEY SERVE GOD , HIS LOVE , AND HIS PLAN FOR PEACE .
ONLY it was not GOD they were led too . IT BE ANTI CHRIST of many anti christs they be led too .
amigo de christo
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Go on dan , start asking yourself . HOW on earth did this happen . HOW on earthLGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.
could this take over even churches and society .
I will TELL US HOW IT HAPPENED . THEY SHUT the mouths of those who did warn , who did preach t ruth
who did correct . WHEN THEY DID THAT , EVIL TOOK OVER and then more and more EVIL TOOK Over
and THEN MORE AND MORE EVIL till the whole lump be FULL .
And here some of you thou ght i was the monster cause i corrected sin
cause i said IF it contradicts the bible , that pa ttern , WE DO NOT HEED IT . THAT WE DO and SHOULD
correct all sin and all error .
WELL take a good LONG LOOK NOW . cause that is what happens WHEN TRUTH IS SILENCED
under guise of a false love and tolerance . Go on now , LOOK AT THIS WORLD NOW .
LOOK at it . Look at more and more churches too .
And i bet i still will hear JUDGE NOT and be called a pharisee cause i do correct . Talk about insanity .
THEY KEEP DOING THE SAME THING and expecting a different result .
NO SIR . so long as the judge nots continue to run them churches , PREPARE FOR TOTAL DESTRUCTION .
amigo de christo
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so now again i make the call . REGULATORS and CONTENDERS for the true faith , the words of JESUS and all sound doctrine .LGBTQ ‘lavender graduations’ set to take place at major Christian colleges, including one with a drag show
Prominent Catholic colleges hold separate "lavender graduation" ceremonies for LGBTQ+ students, with one school planning to include a drag performance.
KICK the judge not correct not false love OFF and STAND , arise and do all we can , WHILE WE CAN .
Cause this world WILL NOT LAST on THIS PATH . IT IS JESUS preaching time
and ecumenical intefaith of anti christs exposing time .
Marvelloustime
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amigo de christo
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it dont suprise me to hear the WORLD say judge not and attack this truth .
BUT THE CH URCH OUGHT NEVER HAVE DONE SO .
But go ahead and bring this into them sold out churches in the UK and in america and the world .
AND i just bet you will hear , HEY WE DONT JUDGE , GOD IS LOVE , YOU A PHARISEE , you a hater , you legalistic .
Now when you hear those phrases
JUST REMEMBER WHOSE WORDS YOU BROUGHT THEM . SO ITS HIM THEY CALL THE HATER , THE PHRAISEE
THE LEGALISIT , the MONSTER . TIS GOD they hate. ITS HIS OWN WORDS they cast BEHIND them .
THE END COMETH upon this generation . FOR it will not recieve correction , WILL not repent IN LARGE
but only grows harder and harder against THE TRUTH adn THE ONLY GOD , HIS CHRIST who could have saved them .
amigo de christo
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i can name many who whether OSAS or not MAKE THIS CLIAM . THAT GOD IS FINE with HOMOSEXUALISM .I can't name one Christian in the OSAS camp that I know personally who falsely claims that and I certainly don't falsely claim that.
Ephesians 4:31 - Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
As you yourself seen when you yourself sent me that topic of lav ender etc .
OH many DO beleive its okay
just as many now beleive GOD is even okay WITH ALL RELIGOINS .
WE GOTS US A SUPER DELUSION in the house .
amigo de christo
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The delusion of the inclusion . THAT IS YOUR ONE WORLD RELGIOIN . INCLUSIVISM . and it will lead all who joined it as ONE
Straight to the pits of perdition on JESUS DAY .
Straight to the pits of perdition on JESUS DAY .
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