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Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality Forum' started by Lifelong_sinner, May 5, 2022.

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    post Well-Known Member

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    SCOTUS did not "get rid of" anything.
    they simply pushed the decision to individual states.

    congress could "get rid of" abortion any moment they wished for the last 50 years that Christians have been getting their votes bought by the red politician's clever speeches: simply pass a law that defines a foetus as an human being. done. then no state can decide they want to allow abortions or not. inalienable right to life.
    we've had R majority congresses + presidencies at various times, but they never did the thing you voted them into office to do. so you kept voting for them anyway. good job.

    now instead we have a rogue court making an appearance of doing that thing, but all they really did is push the issue back to the states, effectually saying, it's not the federal government's business to decide such things.
     
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    what does "damage control" look like for untouchable lifelong appointed elite judges?
    they can be impeached by 2/3 majority of the senate + majority of the house -- what are the odds of that happening? it hasn't ever.

    but if we have 2/3 majority of the congress successfully removing a supreme court judge, then we definitely have a majority representation of the country wanting them removed -- so if you are against that, you aren't really pro-democracy but pro-minority autocracy.

    do we want democracy or do we want our small group of voices imposed on the majority of the country?
     
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    theefaith Well-Known Member

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    Let us pray for a president and congress that will make the unborn a citizen! With guaranteed RIGHT TO LIFE!

    the founders Achilles was not demanding a constitutional convention every 50 years so the states could have influence in the federal government that they created!

    I never vote for senator

    The original constitution has them appointed by the state legislature so the states would have more influence
     
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    I’m curious.

    Why do Christian’s here feel that it’s up to them to stop others from living the life they want? Jesus seemed to be pretty anti theocracy on this earth at this time? Why not also fight to make it illegal to not go to church?

    1 Corinthians 5:12
    New American Standard Bible

    12 For what business of mine is it to judge outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?

    Mark 12:17
    New American Standard Bible

    17 And Jesus said to them, “Pay to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were utterly amazed at Him

    seems like the Bible teaches that the world has a right to live their own life.

    do we see Jesus saying force the world to live the way we choose?
     
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    I know one thing. I’m really looking forward to things like electoral college being done away with so that we can vote as a true democracy, and vote the way the majority wants. That will ensure a constant win for the liberal left democrats.

    Republicans never win the majority vote. Only democrats it seems.

    once that is locked into place, we can begin to take better control of the rest.

    thanks to god, it seems that the alt right is going way. Each generation is more and more loving, liberal, educated and considerate. In a few more generations, there won’t even be a Republican Party. It will be a liberal democrat vs a less liberal democrat.

    you’ll even notice the majority of republican driven states are becoming less republican.
     
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    Michiah-Imla Well-Known Member

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    And usher in the foundation for the Antichrist:

    “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

    Your side will prevail until Christ comes to destroy the Antichrist and:

    “…consume [him] with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.” (2 Thessalonians 2:8-10)

    So your liberal left democrats (and the enabling republicans) will be dealt with by God for all the perverse and subversive evil they have sown on the earth!

    The reckoning is coming…
     
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    that’s cos the demonic liberals have ruined their own states like California and the people leave in a mass exodus for good states like Texas, so Texas becomes more liberal
     
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    Is Jn 14:6 exclusive???
     
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    Because their wacky lifestyles might be harming others, for example the GLBT agenda of promoting it as "normal" and encouraging kids to give it a try.
    God isn't tolerant towards pervs, so why should we be?..:)

    sodom-gomorrah.jpg
     
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    God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve or Eve and Evelyn.

    Two of the same sex cannot procreate and that union is an abomination to God, it's filthy and dirty and anyone who accepts it, is embracing sin and deviancy.
     
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    You know Sodom was not destroyed over homosexuality right? It says they were destroyed for all kinds of evil. Way before they tried to rape the angels, Sodom was already headed towards destruction.

    so what you need to realize is that Christianity is not a weapon. It’s bizarre to use Christianity as a weapon to encourage hatred. I highly suggest reading the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. You’ll notice Christianity does not teach forcing the most to submit to our teachings. Regardless of what you think it says about homosexuality or anything else you think is a sin, Christianity is told to disfellowship the wicked, not drag them through courts or force laws on them. Even if same sex marriages were overturned as not a right, it would only affect those in the republican states really. It would not affect the majority of states. It would not stop it from being on tv or movies. It would not stop pride parades or anything. It would just mean the gay guys down the road from you holding hands are considered married in some
    States. So it’s not stopping anything lifestyle or publicly, just changing it legal status in some states.
     
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    Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?
    OP^

    Marriage is not mentioned in the US Constitution.

    Supreme Court Justices each take an Oath to uphold the US Constitution of the US ‘AND LAWS’ of the US.

    There “in LIES”, the issue.
    “How can a Court of Justices land on DIFFERING CONCLUSIONS ~ IF ~
    They all take the Same Oath?”

    There is where the conundrum arises... THE LAWS of the US.
    The US Constitution; a single document that can be copied word for word on 9 sheets of notebook paper. A Very LIMITING Document to OVERSEE, a VERY FEW things FOR the benefit of avoiding Discourse between the Sovereign States and the citizens thereof such States.

    And to “expressly” avoid such VERY Few identified ISSUES IN the US Constitution, The Federal Law Makers are charged with the DUTY to openly promulgate and discuss ideas each Representative wants for their State and Each Representative of the other States are supposed to protect their Own State and Citizens thereof, FROM negative effects an other State proposes. Remembering; They are only charged with Law Making Authority under the LIMITS of the US Constitutions ITEMS so Identified in the US Constitution.

    So, Consider the US Constitution Express LIMITS, and WHAT expectation does the Public at Large Expect a Result NUMBER of LAWS to be Additionally Executed each year?
    600? 1,000?
    Remember; Congress meets in DC. They are paid handsomely by the Public at Large and have an ungodly number of Perks, not provided by the US Constitution.
    Would you consider How much it would cost You to travel first class, accommodations for sleeping, eating, business dress attire, moving about DC...to attend lengthy meetings to discuss for example, the idea of having a “national tap dance day recognition”? (Which they have) Does that sound to you like Constitutional intent?
    * Point being there are thousands upon thousands UnConstitutional and minuscule irrelevant Federal Laws. Already some 20,000 laws regarding gun ownership. Excessive? Conflicting? Constitutional?
    * How MANY Federal Laws? Ha! Even the Government Reps DO NOT KNOW! 50 Volumes in the 1980’s. Best guess today is maybe 54 or more Volumes, and 600+ added yearly. ALL “supposedly UNDER the LIMITED FEW things the Federal Government was given Authority to enact Federal Legislation!
    * Going back to the SCOTUS...discussion between the Justices ... (whom each have expressly revealed their ‘personal agenda’...AS IF!) according to WHAT LAWS? Unconstitutional Laws in the Laws Books?
    * And not to ignore the Millions upon Millions of Federal Regulations, pursuant to the Federal Laws.
    * It’s an out of control underhanded quagmire that leaves the American Public at Large hanging on “what will be the opinion of a handful of people sitting on as SCOTUS”? Laughable.

    If abortions, queer behaviors of any kind, educational curriculums, gun ownership, etc. are not to your liking....don’t participate.
    Don’t worry about what others do like.

    MY bottom line personal beef, is ONE being Compelled by Unconstitutional Laws, to PAY for what an other “LIKES/WANTS”
    Don’t care what another WANTS, they can pay for it. Period.
    You want to hug your trees, don’t worry about my trees.
    You want your children to be Marxist indoctrinated, you pay for it.
    You want insurance to cover your health issues, you pay for it.
    You want to be drug induced 24-7, you pay for it and its reflective consequences.
     
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    mans I think those who support or condone or sympathize with it are just as guilty!

    not only those who were worshiping the sun in the temple were condemned but also those who were not grieved by such a practice

    so Christians must be grieved by all sin as it offends our God!
     
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    like Matt 23???
     
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    And therefore knowing the TERROR of GOD we persaude men . exactly . Let no man decieve you with vain words
    its because of these very things that the wrath of GOD does come against them , THEREFORE be NOT partakers with them .
    We supposed to correct sin and error within those churches and we are to persaude folks to repent of said evil , NOT EMBRACE it for unity sake
    NOT accept it for a false love sake . make no mistake Its due to these things that the wrath of GOD shall surely come against the wicked
    who do pratice such things and against those who accepted it in the name of a false tolerance and false love and false unity .
    Many are heaping up wrath against themselves unto the day of wrath . WE must contend and defend for the true faith and all truth
    and do so while there still be time to do so . Cause as a snare shall the DAY of the LORD come upon the entire world .
    Yes about the time they are hollering peace and safety , THEN shall come sudden destruction upon them and they shall NOT escape .
    TIME to get serious again , time to do all while there still be time to do so .
     
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    make no mistake your message was not politically correct , but is sure was biblically correct . And as christains
    we must accept ONLY what GOD accepts and calls good . THUS no matter how hated one is for speaking and living the truth
    LET them continue to do so with no fear of man nor what he can do . Always pointing to all biblcal reminders
    to Christ and all sound doctrine .
     
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    so where does god say that Christians need to outlaw gay married? Where are we told to make sin criminal laws and force the world to abide by them?
     
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    I know someone who rebuked a penguin once. They saw the penguin, got so mad at the zoo, and asked by what authority does that penguin not fly and spend so much time in the water? That God made birds of the air, and not the sea. Then he got mad at the turtles for being land animals that spent more time in water and lastly he flipped out on the frogs because they spend the first bit of their life as aquatic animals, and then become land animals that still spend lots of their time in water.
     
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    A righteous nation would outlaw gay and lesbian behavior. Some current acts are criminal laws, like stealing.

    Besides, the ultimate penalty will be realized here:

    “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:15)

    As Christians we should help people not end up in the lake of fire.
     
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    I know someone who:

    “…minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith” (1 Timothy 1:4)
     
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