Catherine Booth’s old sermon shook me — is the modern Church losing its spiritual fire?

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I recently came across a sermon by Catherine Booth, co-founder of the Salvation Army, titled "Why the Modern Church Is Powerless." I was honestly shaken by her boldness and the raw conviction in her words.

She preached over a hundred years ago, but it felt like she was speaking directly to our generation. She talks about spiritual apathy, compromise, and how the Church has lost its fire by trying to be “popular.”

I edited and narrated the sermon using AI narration for clarity and posted it on YouTube — not for views, but to help preserve and spread these kinds of powerful Christian voices that are often forgotten today.

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Would love to hear your thoughts — does this message still apply today? Or are we in a different season now?

God bless you all.
 
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I recently came across a sermon by Catherine Booth, co-founder of the Salvation Army, titled "Why the Modern Church Is Powerless." I was honestly shaken by her boldness and the raw conviction in her words.

She preached over a hundred years ago, but it felt like she was speaking directly to our generation. She talks about spiritual apathy, compromise, and how the Church has lost its fire by trying to be “popular.”

I edited and narrated the sermon using AI narration for clarity and posted it on YouTube — not for views, but to help preserve and spread these kinds of powerful Christian voices that are often forgotten today.

Here’s the link if you’re interested:
Catherine Booth Sermon – Why the Modern Church Is Powerless

Would love to hear your thoughts — does this message still apply today? Or are we in a different season now?

God bless you all.
To say the church at any time is powerless, is to say that God is not sovereign. His plan is perfect and right on schedule. He factors in all our blunders and lackluster faith at times.
The Bible says some Christians have great faith and some are weak; some mature and some infants. It's always been the case. And we have tares in the mix as well, with Satan's influence ... trying to thwart God's plan ( as if he could). He is already defeated.
God allows evil for a purpose; and one of our purposes in life is to learn how to discern between good and evil. We are constantly being tested and in the process of learning lessons. It really is part of our spiritual growth.
Look at the Seven Churches of Revelation; only two of them did not receive a rebuke, the rest were a mixture of either cold, luke warm, bad doctrines, false prophets, one almost dead and another corrupted by the teachings of Baal, another had a prophetess seducing men. They were warned to repent ... or else.
We cooperate with His plan and even though the workers are few, the job gets done. Prophecies could not be fulfilled precisely if man could actually screw up God's plan.
God's power is prevalent!

We are experiencing the last days prior to the Second Coming of Christ for judgment. GOOD AND EVIL are increasing and reaching a precipice, at which time they will be separated.
Evil is being exposed everywhere. We see lawlessness, riots, protests and almost a 30% of the country believing that good is evil and evil, good. The rest of the world is worse off than the USA. These reprobates (over half the population of the world) are blind, confused ... living in a alternate universe as some put it.
Isaiah warned us about these times.

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20-21
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actually wrote this only in response to the OP, before listening to this AI reflection of her sermon. I am not surprised of the doubts brought up about God's sovereignty. The perspective is flawed and lacking the Holy Spirit. AI cannot discern the spiritual workings of God, nor can most people, unless one is "born again". AI does not have faith, it can only access facts on the surface, though billions of bits of information can be processed, it is spiritually blind and can therefore give a secular view, which sounds grim. It sounds like God and Church has failed in their mission. No, wrong.
All priests and pastors point out sin in the world, current conditions, trends, as if we are about to go off the cliff. At times, it seems that way and currently it does. We persevere and hold into our faith through it all, until He comes.
 
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I recently came across a sermon by Catherine Booth, co-founder of the Salvation Army, titled "Why the Modern Church Is Powerless." I was honestly shaken by her boldness and the raw conviction in her words.

She preached over a hundred years ago, but it felt like she was speaking directly to our generation. She talks about spiritual apathy, compromise, and how the Church has lost its fire by trying to be “popular.”

I edited and narrated the sermon using AI narration for clarity and posted it on YouTube — not for views, but to help preserve and spread these kinds of powerful Christian voices that are often forgotten today.

Here’s the link if you’re interested:
Catherine Booth Sermon – Why the Modern Church Is Powerless

Would love to hear your thoughts — does this message still apply today? Or are we in a different season now?

God bless you all.

Job 23:10 (NASB)
10 "But He knows the way I take; When He has tried me, I shall come forth as gold.

Psalm 66:10-12 (NASB)
10 For You have tried us, O God; You have refined us as silver is refined.
11 You brought us into the net; You laid an oppressive burden upon our loins.
12 You made men ride over our heads; We went through fire and through water, Yet You brought us out into a place of abundance.

Isaiah 48:10-11 (NASB)
10 "Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tested you in the furnace of affliction.
11 "For My own sake, for My own sake, I will act; For how can My name be profaned? And My glory I will not give to another.

Zechariah 13:9 (NASB)
9 "And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, 'They are My people,' And they will say, 'The LORD is my God.'"

James 1:2-4 (NASB)
2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


The Church only has "fire" when it's under persecution. Only when spiritually-apathetic Christians are in the "crucible" of trouble and suffering do they crowd up close to God as they ought always to do, desperately dependent and prayerful. Only when comfort, affluence and ease cease to insulate spiritually-tepid born-again believers from pain and pressure do they begin to seriously "look unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of their faith" (He. 12:2) Only unrelieved and cruel opposition from the World toward the spiritually flaccid and corrupt Church can winnow out of it all the false brethren and their poisonous "leaven" currently stifling and sickening the Church (1 Co. 5:6; Ga. 5:9).

Modern, western "Christians" go through the motions of "walking with God" - singing tearfully during "worship concerts," using the latest Christian lingo (often borrowed from the world), praying the devil out of people and places, getting "charged up" by the sound and fury of the thirty-something tattooed preacher with the well-coiffed hair who doles out spiritual "milk" with volume and charisma - but I'd guess that 85% - 90% of folks in church on a Sunday morning in North America are not actually saved. Until this changes, until the Church is purified of all the leaven these folks bring into the Church, it cannot flourish.

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (NASB)
14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, "I will dwell in them and walk among them: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 "Therefore, Come out from their midst and be separate," says the Lord. "And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you.
18 "And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me," Says the Lord Almighty.
 
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