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domenic

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We call this planet, “Wilderness Earth.” Was the Paradise on a different planet? Archaeology has proven some things that do no support the bible. Is it possible the first to humans came from someplace else?


Sorry, the title is, "Check Adams and Eves passport."
 

Justin Mangonel

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Dear D,

No, it is not possible. The Bible says that our Heavens and Earth were created in 6 literal days and on the 7th God rested. Adam and Eve lived in a garden east of Eden and were created beings in that place. Science cannot contradict the Bible and be valid.

Blessings,

Justin
 

domenic

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Justin Mangonel said:
Dear D,

No, it is not possible. The Bible says that our Heavens and Earth were created in 6 literal days and on the 7th God rested. Adam and Eve lived in a garden east of Eden and were created beings in that place. Science cannot contradict the Bible and be valid.

Blessings,
I am not making my reply a stand, just a question.

I am a writer. I am trained to figure out things from all points of view. Let me show you how I reason.
God created the EARTH. Was the rest of the universe already here? After creating the earth he made light and darkness. He created animals and what not…then he created Adam. The last thing he created was Eve.
If Eve was the last thing he created, he could not have created the vast universe with all the things in it after he created Eve? God does not speak of creating other planets, and suns, etc. He only speaks of creating The Earth?
We call this planet, “Wilderness Earth.” Adam and Eve went from the Garden…to the wilderness.
Just suppose, the third dimension we live in, is called Earth?
God told Adam and Eve to multiply, and fill the Earth. (The universe Earth?) Why would God build a vast universe filled with all we can, and can not see, and only have the human family just live on, and care for just this little marble?
NASA has said, “It appears all the plants are in various stages of construction.” There is tons of proof man was here with the dinosaurs ., plus a ton of other stuff. If we came from some other planet, than the things they say about earth not supporting the bible make sense.
I can see man expanding into the vast universe caring for it, for God. There was Neanderthal. He was here. Adam and Eve, if they came here from someplace else, That would only make sense. Neanderthal was not early man. He was a different creature that was here.
This is how I reason. None of it may be true…but for some dumb reason it seems to fit. What do you think?
 

Justin Mangonel

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Dear D,

There was a reason God commanded Adam and Eve not to partake of the knowledge of good and evil. Note: the knowledge of good kills us just as surely as evil.

Actually the heaven was created on the 4th day. Have you even read Genesis?

Personally, I do believe that mankind will someday inhabit the universe for I believe that God has put the desire in us to do so. However, it will be as God originally intended...i.e. man will live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God and not by our knowledge of good and evil. We were intended to live by revelation and not by what seems right in our own eyes.

I believe the universe was created perfectly but then almost destroyed when God flooded the Earth. At that time the anger of God was so great, were it not for Noah and his family, God would have rolled up the universe early and been done with it. The planets are not in various stages of completion but rather in various degrees of destruction. The beauty of the Crab Nebula is only there because a lot of stuff exploded.

God is truth and anything outside of God is not true. Because of strong delusion that is coming upon the world the only way we can have a firm starting point to figure things out is to trust that all God said in His word is absolutely accurate. We may not understand everything in His word but when God says that He did things in a certain way or in a certain order we can believe that rather than science...which is merely part of the secular religion of our day. When you delve into science you will find that their are hard empirical sciences and there are more metaphysical and theoretical sciences. Astronomy is one of these more metaphysical sciences. They wish to have us believe that we can only see about 4 percent of the universe and the rest must be some type of dark matter. Why is this so? It is because they assume the universe is much bigger than it really is and to make their equations work out they have to have a lot more matter than they can see. So, here is an example of people who think they are really smart not being willing to simply admit that their calculations are wrong postulating that something exists that you can't see or measure with any known instrument. Scientists are no true truth seekers but liars at heart for they deny the creator who's creation they seek to understand.

So, in conclusion the fear of the Lord ( i.e. respect and reverence of Him) is the beginning of wisdom. If you seek to know how things really work start with the Bible and work out from that point assuming that whenever science and the Bible disagree either the science is wrong or you don't understand how the true science supports what is written.

Blessings,

Justin
 

domenic

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I do know the Bible. I know it very well. And yes, I do understand Genesis. The universe is not destroying itself...it is still building. I do believe we came from some place else. God would never let Satan be the god of the planet were the Garden was. All of Gods plans work...he does not fail. I believe the Bible is the word of God. I also believe in things that have been found, and things science can prove.

Have you ever read the scrolls? The Bible was taken from the scrolls...the two should match...some parts do not. When they do not, I trust the scrolls.
 

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Justin Mangonel said:
Dear D,

The stars were created on the fourth day. Do you believe this?

Blessings,

Justin
It does not say the forth day. It was before he started giving the planet Wilderness form. Why do you say the fourth day?
 

Justin Mangonel

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Hi D,

I don't sense the Holy Spirit is what you write. Did you recently convert and from what religion?

Blessings,

Justin
 

domenic

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I was a Jehovah's Witnesses. It took me many years to understand it was a cult. I am free of all religions. I believe in God the Father, his son Jess, and the Bible. I will never again trust any man, or religion when it comes to God. I do know what the false doctrines are. No religion is free of them.
 

Justin Mangonel

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Dear D,

Congratulations on coming out of a very difficult place. It takes a while to get things straight. Keep up the good work.

Blessings,

Justin
 

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The Bible says the stars, sun and moon that are for signs and seasons were created by God through His Word on the 4th day.

Gen 1:14-19
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
KJV

domenic said:
I was a Jehovah's Witnesses. It took me many years to understand it was a cult. I am free of all religions. I believe in God the Father, his son Jess, and the Bible. I will never again trust any man, or religion when it comes to God. I do know what the false doctrines are. No religion is free of them.
That is why it is so important to let the Spirit of God teach. If you notice in the letters to the 7 churches, they not all make the grade. God judges the heart of each man and not on the whole entire congregation of a particular church. He many times says that there are a FEW who have not soiled their clothes and will be worthy. Never trust in man to feed you the Word of God for they are fallible but God's Spirit is not.

1 John 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
KJV
 

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we do not know.

We were created to love God and neighbor. our curiosity often leads to speculation, but we may never find out the details of our origin - i do not think it is necessary for redeemption or eternal life with God.