Christians And Obama

[gator347]

With Obama, where do we start?

Someone get the popcorn.

But let’s start with:

· His stance on the Unborn

· His apology tour for the “greatest country on God’s green earth”

· His total distain for the Constitution

· His association with Fascists, Socialists, Anti-Semitics, Former Terrorists, and Bigots

· His disdain for States Rights

· His Back-Door Chicago Thug Politics

· His total inaction in the Gulf

· His inability to address Terrorist for what they are

· His lack of support for the Military

· His unsafe ROE (Rules of Engagement) hampering our Military in combat

· His continual spewing of “Untruths”

· His complete disdain for public opinion when it is contrary to his

But we still need to continue to pray for President AND US!!!

 

[Streetsweeper]

With Obama, where do we start?

Someone get the popcorn.

But let’s start with:

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Sorry, I don't live in the US. In Australia we get a lot of news about American politics (excessive really) but we don't necessarily get the whole story. What I have seen of Obama I been generally impressed with. Certainly he's got to be a giant leap ahead of that comical fool George Bush you last had in the White House.

The points you listed don't really give me enough information to understand your concerns. They appear to be rather unsubstantiated accusations rather than an explanation.

Just one quick example ...... "His Total Inaction In The Gulf".
Is that the Persian Gulf, The Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of Carpentaria?​

 

[gator347]

Sorry, I don't live in the US. In Australia we get a lot of news about American politics (excessive really) but we don't necessarily get the whole story. What I have seen of Obama I been generally impressed with. Certainly he's got to be a giant leap ahead of that comical fool George Bush you last had in the White House.

The points you listed don't really give me enough information to understand your concerns. They appear to be rather unsubstantiated accusations rather than an explanation.

Just one quick example ...... "His Total Inaction In The Gulf".
Is that the Persian Gulf, The Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of Carpentaria?​

I love your country (AUS) The people were great. That said, you know little if you think Obama is doing a better job than Bush (Who I am not a big fan).

Gulf, as in Mexico, as in total skrew-up. Oh, but let me go play GOLF.

 

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Sorry, I don't live in the US. In Australia we get a lot of news about American politics (excessive really) but we don't necessarily get the whole story. What I have seen of Obama I been generally impressed with. Certainly he's got to be a giant leap ahead of that comical fool George Bush you last had in the White House.

The points you listed don't really give me enough information to understand your concerns. They appear to be rather unsubstantiated accusations rather than an explanation.

Just one quick example ...... "His Total Inaction In The Gulf".
Is that the Persian Gulf, The Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of Carpentaria?​

President Obama is an eloquent speaker. There's no debate on that point.
President Obama is also a liberal black Democrat and much of the rhetoric against him is raised by pseudo-conservatives, Republicans or thinly veiled racists.
While I see nothing wrong with any of those things, the biggest problem with such criticism is that it fails to recognize its own roots.

However that may be, the biggest reason for American criticism of Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or Lincoln for that matter is that Americans are always unhappy with the leadership in the White House. The man that sits there is neither perfect, all powerful or all knowing yet the general population seems to feel that he ought to be.

The final reason for ridiculing the sitting president is that sometimes its just plain fun.

 

[Streetsweeper]

Gulf, as in Mexico, as in total skrew-up. Oh, but let me go play GOLF.

Yep. Total disaster.

What would you have expected Obama to do differently?

 

[Martin W.]

Obama is a pretty boy with brown skin who reads a teleprompter well.

And he is not George W. Bush.

Beyond that he has very little.

But it got him elected.

You need to focus on the electorate. Not the elected.

If you do not understand that , you should not be allowed to vote.

There , I said it.

 

[Streetsweeper]

Martin, I think you are one of the more thoughtful people on this forum, however I don't find your last post to be be particularly useful.

You need to focus on the electorate. Not the elected.

Yes, leadership through service, or is it the method overwhelming the mission? How do you see that applying to Obama?

Aside from the crudely backhanded compliment your post is as vague as the criticisms from every person here who has criticised Obama. Yes, 'you said it', ......... but so what?

I thought I asked a fairly simple and direct question about Obama, his policies and actions. The responses however amount to nothing more than vague assertions that Obama is not liked.

I thank rjp34653.... for his reflective comments, but that does little to help me understand the apparent dislike and disatisfaction with Barak Obama.

 

[gator347]

Yep. Total disaster.

What would you have expected Obama to do differently?

I am from the Gulf (of Mexico) Coast. I have family whose livelihood depends on the Gulf.

So where has the Obama Administration gone wrong?

· Gov. Bobby Jindal asked for sand berms to block the oil. 60 days later they finally get approval

· Jindal asked for barges to vacuum up oil – 2,000 were sitting in port not being used

· Several foreign counties have offered “New Technology” ships – Feds still have not given a waiver for foreign ships to operate in US waters

· BP wanted to blow the rig but the FEDs declined without reason.

· Obama Administration is not returning calls from officials on the Gulf Coast

· The US is supporting Brazil with $20 Billion loan to drill in water 3X deeper than this rig.

· Shutting down drilling in this area will cost $Billions but will not stop the oil.

· The State of Louisiana wanted BP to drill in 500 ft of water off the Continental Shelf but the FEDs made them drill in deep water.

· The FEDs will not let them drill on LAND in Montana & Alaska.

· BP needs to stop the oil and the FEDs need to get it cleaned up. Better yet, let the States do their thing. Give them what they need and get out of the way!

 

[Streetsweeper]

Thanks Gator,

This adds a lot of background I was not familiar with.

• I imagine it's all a bit late now, but have the sand berms been installed and are they helping to limit the damage?
  
• Australia has its own problems with different tiers of government and demarcation between authorities. My impression is that US authorities are even more fragmented and operationally independent of one another than Australian authorities. Would this be contributing to the poor response?
  
• I was a little surprised by your comment that BP needs to stop the oil and the FEDs need to get it cleaned up. Surely BP also has the responsibility for getting it cleaned up?
  
• Why is there a preference for deep water drilling rather than shallow water or land based drilling? Is there a belief that deep water drilling will have less environmental impact?

 

[Streetsweeper]

I didn't think I'd ever find much about which I could agree with the dearly departed Brother Mike. Never the less I came across the following of Brother Mike's posts which presents a very balanced and rational perspective.

I could not with a clear conscience support everything Obama is doing. IN fact, I cringed when he got into office. I have no idea how his new health care is going to be paid for, I don't think anyone else knows.

I do see some good things he is doing, and It could be I have issues with trying to find every little thing that does not meet our approval. If post were mixed with what Good are president has done, like going after the crooks in Wallstreet, then I would feel that everything is not a witch hunt. His administration is also going to appeal the federal ruling on prayer day, and I seem to be the only one that notices that.

From my perspective it seems almost impossible that the US could have survived so long without a functional national health care system.

 

[gator347]

Street:

Our awesome Federal Government has STOPPED letting Louisiana build the berms. Go figure?

You tell us why this Government does not want in-land drilling? Facts are, they hate oil. Their ideas are not based on science.

I want BP (and friends) to pay for the clean-up but the locals can move much faster and are willing to try ALL ideas. Our FEDS seem to work on NIH (Not Invented Here)

And after seeing this & Katrina would you want them to control your Health Care? I did not think so.

 

[Streetsweeper]

National economic security is important and the attitudes expressed in this video are obviously taken out of context with the intent of emphasising an extreme recklessness of policy. Never the less I do find the fervour incited by the Republican party to be irresponsible.

The damage being done in the Gulf of Mexico gives the US good reason to be cautious in allowing drilling elsewhere.