Christ's Most Difficult Command

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Wrangler

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I really don’t care what the “state” thinks of me
Why the quotes? You keep repeatedly writing something that is false. You ARE a part of this world, whether you care about that fact or not. You ARE a citizen of Australia, whether you care about that fact or not.

Reality does not care what you care about.

it’s what Jehovah and his Son think of me, that counts.
Yet, the son of Jehovah explicitly commanded you to give to Caesar what is Caesar's and you don't care about that, you don't embrace the full, practical application of that command.

This command is consistent with "love your neighbor" and "love your enemies" (who may not embrace Jehovah and his Son). Nothing says "I love you" (neighbor or enemy) like saying I don't care! And this reveals why you put the State in quotations, it shows your contempt for the burden our Lord put on you and on me.

You got nothing to say about Ordo amoris. You got nothing to say about Jesus overturning politics as proven in Matthew 27:37, the treasonous reason he was killed:
A sign was fastened above Jesus’ head, announcing the charge against him. It read: “This is Jesus, the King of the Jews.”
 

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has it really come down to this my friend .
What i mean is most folks consider me a piece of worthless .............not filling in that blank any time soon .
but just cause one considers us to be such , DONT MAKE us or mean we are such .
You gonna have to do a lot better than this to explain things my friend . OH , please dont worry yourself
about me . I aint wor ried nor concerned what most think about me . So dont think i am down or depressed .
WORRY yourself for them please . I GOT JESUS and the cost is the cost my friend . Now to the trenches one and all .
Communism nor any other ism loves folks like me . WHY
cause we cannot be controlled . KEEP THAT IN MIND . cause its men like me they coming for first .
but again , dont worry about me or for me . THE COST IS THE COST and may i wear it as a badge of honor
no matter what i have to suffer for Christ . Do be encouraged my friend .
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You’re in good company. People think that of me too.
We have the LORD. Praise the LORD.
 
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So the very real likely hood he's going to do bad things to others is of no concern?
On the contrary, it is of great concern.
If you hear later that he becomes a child molester or a murderer, you'll be part responsible for not letting the authorities know he was doing perverted things
Ever hear of the concept of Grace?

When I hear now that he's a well adjusted, happy, contributing member of society, I know that deferring to his parents judgement on the matter regarding therapy rather than bring in criminologists, I know I handled it properly. With all due respect BBJ, I prayed a lot about this and I did not follow your lead but the Holy Spirit - so help me God!
 

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On the day of the LORD many shall wail .
For they never truly knew or undestood that the just shall walk by faith .
No their faith was NOT IN CHRIST who had warned BELIEVE or you shall perish .
IT was in anotehr faith , known as ecumeincal interfaith and boy the road got real broad under that .
As for this sheep The only ONE i can hope in and ever have faith in
IS JESUS THE CHRIST . how i wish others knew and understood that .
This g eneration is in dire trouble . As for me ITS ONLY JESUS CHRIST that i shall point too
with the dire reminder of what HE said and later the aposetls made clear .
BELIEVE IN HIM or perish . And do be sure the jesus one loveth IS THE JESUS and not another one
that accepts sins and UNBELEIF . that one cannot save , FOR THAT ONE IS NOT JESUS THE CHRIST .
 
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Ever hear of the concept of Grace?

Ever hear of the concept of loving innocent people before perverts?

The Lord would seek to protect the innocent from those being influenced by devils.

That's what Love would do first and Love would not seek to give cover for demonic actions since Jesus is not the minister of sin, satan is.

I think you are scared of offending the little perverts parents and it's nice to want to keep the peace but the cost is other people's children having to face this pervert as he grows in his perversion which is how demons work as they always escalate a person like this to become more evil.

So if you don't care about other people's kids then I guess it's all good for you then.

Did you at least talk to the little pervert about repenting of his sins and explain to him he's on the wrong road in life and preach the gospel to him? You said he is like a son to you so I'm assuming you talk to the kid sometimes?
 
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Ever hear of the concept of loving innocent people before perverts?

The Lord would seek to protect the innocent from those being influenced by devils.

That's what Love would do first and Love would not seek to give cover for demonic actions since Jesus is not the minister of sin, satan is.

I think you are scared of offending the little perverts parents and it's nice to want to keep the peace but the cost is other people's children having to face this pervert as he grows in his perversion which is how demons work as they always escalate a person like this to become more evil.

So if you don't care about other people's kids then I guess it's all good for you then.

Did you at least talk to the little pervert about repenting of his sins and explain to him he's on the wrong road in life and preach the gospel to him? You said he is like a son to you so I'm assuming you talk to the kid sometimes?
man you just spoke exactly what love would do . it would not seek to cover over demonic activity , YOUR RIGHT
JESUS is not the minstir of sin .
So again would anyone tell me , PLEASE
why on earth this false lovey do broad ecumeincal intefaith , IS EVEN BEING considered by anyone OF CHRIST .
and the answer is , BOY do we have problems .
WHEN unrepentant sin and sinners are not exposed in that church
Tis all being set up for only more leaven to come on in , and it surely has .
OH lets just love them to GOD , they said , LETS NOT expose the sins THEY SAID
YEAH and HOW DID that work out . peodophilism grew
and not only that but other sins too . being gay became accepted .
Not co rrected .
And now EVEN UNBELIEF IN JESUS is getting accepted . Thanks for the lovely reminder , i hope you consider mine too .
CAUSE YOU RIGHT . GOD IS LOVE and GOD SURELY DO CORRECT and GOD SURELY DO POINT TO JESUS TOO .
 
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amigo de christo

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Yeah but wranger is going to make me out to be the bad guy for saying that, you watch
verily verily i say unto you , If i had to guess
and i could be wrong but i dont think so
To wrangler and scores of others I AM NOW ENEMY put on ignore number one .
AT LEAST they converse with you . THEY RUN from me like i got a disease .
AND ALL because i expose that ecumeincal interfaith harlot that so many now seem to love .
 
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amigo de christo

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Yeah but wranger is going to make me out to be the bad guy for saying that, you watch
of course he will . to them Grace means HEY DONT JUDGE .
Folks have no idea , or wait i mean most folks have no idea
WHAT GRACE EVEN IS , or that which it even does . LET ALONE must have no idea
what THE LOVE OF GOD EVEN IS or what IT DID or does .
Friend we got more problems within what remains of christendom
than a math book . and it aint getting any better , NOR WILL IT .
WE simply have to expose what is contrary to GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL , HIS WORDS
and pray SOME at least hear it and recieve it .
 
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No. What verse in the Bible says that?
what he should have said is WE SHOULD BE CORRECTING any and all sinful behavoir
and not just trying to overlook it so we can seem SO dARN LOVING to those IN IT .
Time for a wake up call . SO allow the words of GOD to be the one to DO IT .
YE SHALL NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart , YOU SHALL correct , yes CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN UPON HIM .
and the pattern for the true church was and is an STILL IS
IF one heeds not the correction , BOOT THEM OUT till repentance is made .
Dont try and turn a blind eye to sin , THINKING ITS LOVING and KIND to do so . NO it aint .
NOT only does it work to their destruction , OH my friend its gonna leaven up the church .
People dont even know what THE LOVE OF GOD IS anymore NOR what it entials NOR what it does .
 
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No. What verse in the Bible says that?
Ps that fourteen year old you consider to be as a son .
WHAT DID YOU TELL HIM . What did you NOT TELL HIM i should be saying .
That kid needed YOU , HE needed your correction to correct him .
BY GOD i hope you DID at least try and warn him . DID YOU .
or did you do as many do and just THINK . OH IF I SAY NOTHING maybe in TIME HE WILL GET IT
MAYBE HE WILL JUST SEE me as loving and kind and come to GOD .
IF SO , YOU WERE ONLY a cohelper to HIS SIN and IF HE repents NOT to his destruction .
SLEEP ON that . i am tired of this non correcting church who allows folks to drown and die in sin
TILL NOW they even allow the false religoins TO DIE IN UNBELEIF . HEY wrangler
THAT AINT THE LOVE OF GOD .
GOD CORRECTS , GOD TESTIFIED OF JESUS . GOD dont make escuse , HE CORRECT and does so FOR OUR OWN GOOD .
TIME we who have the SPIRIT start doing the same .
CAUSE GOD DOES WORK through the body and that also means HE WOULD HAVE corrected THROUGH US T OO .
YEAH lets not forget that .
 
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think you are scared of offending the little perverts parents

Not one little bit. I spoke to both of them with my wife the very next day after I learned of my grandson’s recalled memory.

Did you at least talk to the little pervert about repenting of his sins and explain to him he's on the wrong road in life and preach the gospel to him? You said he is like a son to you so I'm assuming you talk to the kid sometimes?
Unfortunately, no. Didn’t you read that I said we hadn’t talked since? (I meant the whole family, not just the parents.)

Your posts indicate someone extremely judgmental. I miss my surrogate son. I miss talking with him. I miss the comrade and fellowship with the parents, who often called me the best neighbor ever. The pedophile is in denial and decided he can’t bring himself to talk to me about this. Don’t you see I‘m mourning the death of 4 close relationships?
 
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Not one little bit. I spoke to both of them with my wife the very next day after I learned of my grandson’s recalled memory.


Unfortunately, no. Didn’t you read that I said we hadn’t talked since? (I meant the whole family, not just the parents.)

Your posts indicate someone extremely judgmental. I miss my surrogate son. I miss talking with him. I miss the comrade and fellowship with the parents, who often called me the best neighbor ever. The pedophile is in denial and decided he can’t bring himself to talk to me about this. Don’t you see I‘m mourning the death of 4 close relationships?
well if you warned him that was all you could do . THE REST is on him . so if you did then good .
AND YES i do understand how sad it is . For we wish only the best for them .
But if given a chance , POINT HIM TO JESUS , perhaps he will hear , perhaps not . Hopefully so .
I was worst of the worst and GOD took great mercy on me and drew me to CHRIST .
SO i pray and hope the same for that kid .
 
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Not one little bit. I spoke to both of them with my wife the very next day after I learned of my grandson’s recalled memory.


Unfortunately, no. Didn’t you read that I said we hadn’t talked since? (I meant the whole family, not just the parents.)

Your posts indicate someone extremely judgmental. I miss my surrogate son. I miss talking with him. I miss the comrade and fellowship with the parents, who often called me the best neighbor ever. The pedophile is in denial and decided he can’t bring himself to talk to me about this. Don’t you see I‘m mourning the death of 4 close relationships?
keep in prayer for him and his repentance .
I will do the same and get some others to join in too . WE desire life and not death for them .
 
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Yeah but wranger is going to make me out to be the bad guy for saying that, you watch
you must stop being sarchastic my friend . Its why the other post go shut down . Someone thinks YOU SUPPORT it .
Stop being sarchasttic and just rebuke the evil things . I knew you did not
but hello that is why we cant just say things like that . Folks take you serious .and think your sarchasm is you AGREEING
with it . That is exactly why we need not to do it . just warn .
 
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what he should have said is WE SHOULD BE CORRECTING any and all sinful behavoir
and not just trying to overlook it so we can seem SO dARN LOVING to those IN IT .
Time for a wake up call . SO allow the words of GOD to be the one to DO IT .
YE SHALL NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart , YOU SHALL correct , yes CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW SIN UPON HIM .
and the pattern for the true church was and is an STILL IS
IF one heeds not the correction , BOOT THEM OUT till repentance is made .
Dont try and turn a blind eye to sin , THINKING ITS LOVING and KIND to do so . NO it aint .
NOT only does it work to their destruction , OH my friend its gonna leaven up the church .
People dont even know what THE LOVE OF GOD IS anymore NOR what it entials NOR what it does .
@amigo de christo
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And I told you you';re barking up the wrong tree seeing I'm not the one claiming Jesus told the entire Body of Christ to sell all the have and give it to the poor.

You're the only hypocrite in this conversation claiming I believe something I never said or indicated I believe.

Your armour just fell off :hmhehm
Who are the Poor ? Biblical speeking ?

I understand that a lot of the poor money wise are not worth investing in because such as they are just like casting pearls before swines, they will only try to destroy anyone, not to mention love to keep all down, even within their own Ilk ! seen it time and time again !
That does not mean all Poor people are as such.

But I know of many who are only of the poor because they are stupid !
They have been on the Tax payers tip their whole life and generation to generation in fact !

Not to mention our Australian Prime Minister is from such a background ! living the life of being kept ? and such people see such as to be idolised ! Oh look at me ! I did it tough ?
They never did it tough at all in fact ! They sat on their ass for free ! no real hardship what so ever ! nothing to do, was their biggest problem they ever had in their life !

But others who work are the true battlers, that have to deal with reality every day, Try getting ripped off, people going bankrupt on you and having a Tax man wanting only to destroy you ! as they did with many. Such were treated as the enemy !

But the Governments gladly tossed money after bad after bad, with no regards at all what so ever ! and rolling out the red carpet for people comming here, who openly clearly hate our Nation !

This is the crap of what we have to put up with !

There are people who just will not work, because they feel such is beneath them ! They want to demand to be at the top of the ladder ! or forget it ! not to mention such do not mind shafting anyone for their own ends.

Ferals is what they are called.

I do not think ferals were about back in Biblical days.

Not to mention that their are wealthy ferals about as well !

Or Religious ferals as well.
 

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Your posts indicate someone extremely judgmental.

I'm thinking of the future victims of this little pervert, sorry

If the authorities had been notified there would be a greater possibility that others would know this kid is a pervert and would keep their kids from being around him or at least alone with him without adult supervision.

That's the problem I'm thinking of is his future victims.
My conscience would not allow me to not report this to the authorities

I don't understand your lack of conscience in this matter.

It's a good thing I don't know this kid's name and and city / state where he lives because if I did I'd pick up the phone and call the county sheriff or police chief in his town right now and let them know they a pervert on the loose in their community they need to investigate.

If you are scared to report him them PM me his info and I'll do the right thing.

Call me judgmental on this if you'd like, but I retain a clean conscience.
 

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I'm thinking of the future victims of this little pervert, sorry
You’re confusing ACTUAL with POTENTIAL. I‘m dealing with at least 11 ACTUAL victims now.
  1. The 4 victims to my left. The 4 yo at the time and his family.
  2. The 4 victims to my left - including the pedophile, most of all.
  3. My wife and I.
  4. My grandson.
My granddaughter and other grandson could be added, along with their parents who decided not to let their children come over our house for fear of the pedophile. You‘ve shown no compassion for these ACTUAL victims, least of all, the pedophile himself.

I don't understand your lack of conscience in this matter.

Lack of conscience? Something must be seriously wrong with you; I told you I prayed many times about this and how I handled it is how the Holy Spirit told me to handle it.

In the last conversation with his mother, she lamented this accusation at the tender age of her son being 20, knowing it would ruin his life. I felt that! I pray and hope he has repented and overcome. I don’t seek retribution. Isn’t that love?

Call me judgmental on this if you'd like, but I retain a clean conscience.
That’s what bothers me. Christ did not compel us to forgive ONLY AFTER political justice is done.

Be careful of the monster you hunt that you don’t become the monster!
 
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