Churches an easy target, go underground

[dad]

With all the news of pastors being arrested and jailed and fined and churches closed and etc the question arises-should all churches sell whatever they can and close up shop and go underground?

 

[Jay Ross]

It seems to me that the true church that God has is well hidden from you, and in that sense it has been underground and not obviously visible to you or your ike.

God's true church owns no property, nor can it sell what it has, all that the people, who are a part of God's true church, can do, is share what they have in God.

Shalom

 

[dad]

It seems to me that the true church that God has is well hidden from you, and in that sense it has been underground and not obviously visible to you or your ike.

God's true church owns no property, nor can it sell what it has, all that the people, who are a part of God's true church, can do, is share what they have in God.

Shalom

So no true Scotsman fallacy. OK.

 

[Pythagorean12]

With all the news of pastors being arrested and jailed and fined and churches closed and etc the question arises-should all churches sell whatever they can and close up shop and go underground?

Go underground? Great idea. Then we can be even more like the Christian's in China.

 

[dad]

Go underground? Great idea. Then we can be even more like the Christian's in China.

I think that is good, no?

 

[Pythagorean12]

I think that is good, no?

No. We're Christians. Not moles.
The constitution is a legal contract, a document, that protects the people from their government.
Any rights not enumerated there also belong to the people.

If we hide our faith from government, we've violated our own 1st amendment protection and rights.

We shouldn't have to be afraid of our government making our faith unspeakable. Our government should be made to answer to us.

 

[FHII]

With all the news of pastors being arrested and jailed and fined and churches closed and etc the question arises-should all churches sell whatever they can and close up shop and go underground?

Not quite sure I'm understanding you, but I am listening.

Where is all this happening? Here in the U.S. I am not seeing it as a big problem... Since Covid was in full swing, it has decreased.

I don't have a problem with going underground as long as you don't deny him. In the end, chances are you will be found. But again... I have to hear the whole matter to give a proper opinion.

 

[dad]

No. We're Christians. Not moles.
The constitution is a legal contract, a document, that protects the people from their government.
Any rights not enumerated there also belong to the people.

If we hide our faith from government, we've violated our own 1st amendment protection and rights.

We shouldn't have to be afraid of our government making our faith unspeakable. Our government should be made to answer to us.

You have an opinion. OK. Woulda coulda shoulda. The problem is that your government is promoting a Satanic agenda. They might as well make constitutional toilet paper.

 

[dad]

Not quite sure I'm understanding you, but I am listening.

Where is all this happening? Here in the U.S. I am not seeing it as a big problem... Since Covid was in full swing, it has decreased.

I don't have a problem with going underground as long as you don't deny him. In the end, chances are you will be found. But again... I have to hear the whole matter to give a proper opinion.

I did post some links I think it was mostly Canada. Here's one for the UK
U.K. pastor arrested after anti-same-sex marriage comments back on stump with politician's support
Florida..Florida police arrest pastor Rodney Howard-Browne - CNN

And another Canada one..WATCH: Canadian pastor arrested in front of his children for breaking coronavirus restrictions - Premier Christian News | Headlines, Breaking News, Comment & Analysis

 

[Ziggy]

:cool::cool:

 

[FHII]

I did post some links I think it was mostly Canada. Here's one for the UK
U.K. pastor arrested after anti-same-sex marriage comments back on stump with politician's support
Florida..Florida police arrest pastor Rodney Howard-Browne - CNN

And another Canada one..WATCH: Canadian pastor arrested in front of his children for breaking coronavirus restrictions - Premier Christian News | Headlines, Breaking News, Comment & Analysis

I didn't see the links, but thanks for giving them. I will have to read them, even though I am familiar with these cases.

You have an opinion. OK. Woulda coulda shoulda. The problem is that your government is promoting a Satanic agenda. They might as well make constitutional toilet paper.

I understand what you are getting at, but I do agree with Py..12. Our Constitution is supposed to 1. Tell the govt what it can do and 2. Through the Bill of Rights, protect us from the govt! And up till now, its worked! But I am worried about tbe future.

 

[dad]

I didn't see the links, but thanks for giving them. I will have to read them, even though I am familiar with these cases.

I understand what you are getting at, but I do agree with Py..12. Our Constitution is supposed to 1. Tell the govt what it can do and 2. Through the Bill of Rights, protect us from the govt! And up till now, its worked! But I am worried about tbe future.

Well, I hope the good guys win there soon. If not soon, I think it may be too late. The agenda being foisted on children seems to be beyond anything God could possibly put up with for much longer to me. (as well as the child sacrifices)

 

[Pythagorean12]

You have an opinion. OK. Woulda coulda shoulda. The problem is that your government is promoting a Satanic agenda. They might as well make constitutional toilet paper.

No, but that's your opinion.

Your government, wherever that might be, is so evil it has you thinking going underground because you're a Christian is a good idea.

 

[dad]

No, but that's your opinion.

Your government, wherever that might be, is so evil it has you thinking going underground because you're a Christian is a good idea.

OK