Conversation with An Atheist

[Mancunian]

If God had given a scientific explanation of how he created the universe 2,000 to 4,000 years ago no one would understand. They wouldn’t even comprehend a round earth

Exactly!
With all that has been discovered since then, we would have not only concrete proof of a creator, but exactly who the creator was.
Isn't what your God wants?
He supposedly loves us and doesn't want us to perish, so why the cloak and daggers?

Seems to me that he doesn't mind some collateral damage.

 

[Mancunian]

Instead of useful information, the Bible basically gives us a set of rules to live by and vague instructions on how to avoid a finite life.
It's full of fantastic stories, miracles and supernatural occurrences that are not reality based.
The books of the Bible read to me like this particular God was made in man's image and not the other way around.

 

[Wrangler]

we would have not only concrete proof of a creator, but exactly who the creator was.
Isn't what your God wants?

No. God wants us to walk by faith not sight.

How do you feel being a nihilist? It must feel empty and self-defeating in various ways.

 

[Mancunian]

No. God wants us to walk by faith not sight.

How do you feel being a nihilist? It must feel empty and self-defeating in various ways.

I'm not looking forward to dying, but as I've explained before I wouldn't want to sign up to the unknown anyway.
Eternity is a long time. Even if your first 10,000 years are interesting and rewarding I fear that when you get to the 100,000s, the novelty would definitely be wearing off.

 

[Mancunian]

I always think that the run up to death would be scary, but death itself wouldn't be.
If it's just lights out and blackness, with no thoughts or memory I don't fear that.

 

[RLT63]

I'm not looking forward to dying, but as I've explained before I wouldn't want to sign up to the unknown anyway.
Eternity is a long time. Even if your first 10,000 years are interesting and rewarding I fear that when you get to the 100,000s, the novelty would definitely be wearing off.

You’re already signed up for the unknown

 

[Mancunian]

You’re already signed up for the unknown

Not in the Christian sense.
I know that I will be cremated, I know that my ashes won't think or feel.
I don't subscribe to the concept of a soul, so once I'm gone I'm confident I'm gone.

 

[pwg_jonathan]

Fair enough, Mancunian, I get why lights out doesn't scare you. For me the thing that changes it is that Jesus doesn't just say there's life after death, he claims to be the thing itself. At Lazarus' tomb he says, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" (John 11:25). You don't have to buy it today, but that's the actual claim I'd want you to weigh.

 

[RandyDawson]

I always think that the run up to death would be scary, but death itself wouldn't be.
If it's just lights out and blackness, with no thoughts or memory I don't fear that.

You are certainly going to be shocked when you die!