Conversation with An Atheist

[RLT63]

Ah Pascal's wager again.

What if a God exists but it's not Jesus?
What if it is Jesus, but he only allows critical thinkers and skeptics into heaven?
What if a God exists that doesn't offer an afterlife?
What if a God exists that offers reincarnation into this life?
The possibilities are endless, and that's why Pascal's wager doesn't work.

What if the God of Islam is the one? We're both as shafted as eachother in that case.

Billions of Muslims think that Jesus existed, but don't think that he was crucified or resurrected.
Are billions of Muslims wrong?
Was Jesus just a high ranking prophet like Muhammad?
Not the son of God.....

Jesus didn't marry a 6 year old and have sex with her when she turned 9. He's nothing like Muhammad

 

[RLT63]

Ah Pascal's wager again.

What if a God exists but it's not Jesus?
What if it is Jesus, but he only allows critical thinkers and skeptics into heaven?
What if a God exists that doesn't offer an afterlife?
What if a God exists that offers reincarnation into this life?
The possibilities are endless, and that's why Pascal's wager doesn't work.

What if the God of Islam is the one? We're both as shafted as eachother in that case.

What if Jesus is the Son of God and you never accept him?

 

[RLT63]

Ah Pascal's wager again.

What if a God exists but it's not Jesus?

If it's not Jesus then who? Elephants and cows?
A God that has a pedophile for a prophet? Or a God who doesn't care to know us?

What if it is Jesus, but he only allows critical thinkers and skeptics into heaven?

Jesus told us who he allows in Heaven

What if a God exists that doesn't offer an afterlife?
What if a God exists that offers reincarnation into this life?

I'm okay then, I just cease to exist or I come back as a cat and sleep all day

The possibilities are endless, and that's why Pascal's wager doesn't work.

You're not an atheist, you just can't make up your mind

What if the God of Islam is the one? We're both as shafted as eachother in that case.

I don't think God would choose a pedophile as his prophet

 

[Mancunian]

If it's not Jesus then who? Elephants and cows?
A God that has a pedophile for a prophet? Or a God who doesn't care to know us?

Jesus told us who he allows in Heaven

I'm okay then, I just cease to exist or I come back as a cat and sleep all day

You're not an atheist, you just can't make up your mind

I don't think God would choose a pedophile as his prophet

I was only trying to explain to you why Pascal's wager doesn't work.
I find it interesting that you view other people's religious beliefs as fantasy but your religious views are not.
I'm an agnostic atheist btw. Sometimes stronger leaning towards agnosticism, and sometimes the other way.

 

[RLT63]

I was only trying to explain to you why Pascal's wager doesn't work.
I find it interesting that you view other people's religious beliefs as fantasy but your religious views are not.
I'm an agnostic atheist btw. Sometimes stronger leaning towards agnosticism, and sometimes the other way.

I would have said you're agnostic from your posts.
You shouldn't find it strange that people believe in their own religion and don't accept other religions.
I can see why someone would believe as you do, there are so many things that are unknown and the idea of just ceasing to exist when you die doesn't seem that bad.
But I don't believe that way.

 

[Titus]

If the Bible is true then Islam is false.
If the Bible isn't true then Islam is false.

 

[Wrangler]

I find it interesting that you view other people's religious beliefs as fantasy but your religious views are not.

Mainly because of the many verified miracles in Christianity but none in other religions.

 

[RLT63]

 

[Titus]

If the Bible is true then Islam is false.
If the Bible isn't true then Islam is false.

The Quran teaches Jesus did not die on the cross
Quran 4:157 : " and for their saying, indeed we have killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah. And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them.

Mohammed says Jesus was not crucified. Instead another imposter was made to look like him, and that is why some thought Jesus was crucified.

Conclusion: Mohammed contradicts the Bible.

John 19:16- 17
- then he(Pilate) delivered Him(Jesus) to them(jews) to be crucified, then they took Jesus and led Him away....where they crucified Him...

Mohammed teaches Christians must judge by what God has revealed in the gospel,
Quran 5:47 " and let the people(christians) of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein."

Mohammed also writes in his Quran,
Quran 10:94 " So if you are in doubt O Muhammad about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those(christians) who have been reading the Scripture before you.

Conclusion: Mohammed teaches Christians to get their understanding and believe what the Scriptures teach.

Final conclusion: If Mohammed is correct that Jesus was not crucified then the Bible is wrong.
This makes Mohammed wrong as he also said Christians are to follow and believe the teachings of their gospel.
Therefore Islam is false because the Quran and their prophet Mohammed is wrong.

If the Bible is correct that Jesus was crucified. Then Isalm and their Prophet Mohammed is wrong because Mohammad wrote in the Quran that Jesus was not crucified while also telling Christians to believe and follow their gospel given to them from Allah.

If the Bible is true, then Islam is false.
If the Bible is false, then Islam is false.

Mohammad taught in his Quran the people, Christians must judge by what Allah has revealed to them, that being the Scriptures.

Judging Mohammed by the Scriptures, we must judge his claim of being a prophet and his " holy book" as false.