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What documents and why destroyed the US Embassy in Kiev during the move (strana-today.translate.goog)

Another bit of news the US media will never print
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On the eve of the "invasion" announced by the United States, but never took place, the American embassy in Kyiv was closed and documents were destroyed. Photo: RIA Novosti
One possible explanation for the sudden and hasty relocation of the US Embassy from Kiev to Lviv, with the destruction of documents and servers, could be an attempt to cover its tracks in the case of interference in the 2016 elections on the side of Hillary Clinton.

This version is increasingly discussed in expert circles.

The United States closed its embassy in Kiev amid "threats of Russian invasion of Ukraine" by decree of Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

The destruction of the documents was discussed in a Feb. 12 phone call between Under Secretary of State for Management and Resources Brian McKeon and House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Gregory Meeks, Hill reported.

What is behind this, the "Country" understood.

The Bidens and invasion herald Sullivan
During the move, the embassy staff destroyed some of the files, among which, according to the official version, were applications for green cards and raw passport documents, explaining this by the protocol for the protection of confidential information (by other owls, so as not to fall into the hands of "enemies").

Also, according to the Wall Street Journal, diplomats were ordered to destroy network equipment and computer workstations, as well as dismantle the telephone system of the embassy.

Details in the State Department classified. State Department spokesman Ned Price at the briefing said he could not provide details about the destruction of documents at the US embassy in Kyiv, but said no valid passports were destroyed.

"There is a standard set of procedures that we run when we start downsizing an embassy," Price said. "We've taken reasonable precautions when it comes to sensitive documents and sensitive equipment, but we just can't provide details."

There is an opinion that behind the destruction of the document is actually the toxic history of the Biden family's relationship with the Ukrainian elite.

We are talking about compromising evidence related to the work of Biden's son, Hunter, who received 50 thousand dollars a month in a Ukrainian oil company under the protection of his father. As well as accusations that the Ukrainian authorities, on the orders of the then White House administration, interfered in the American elections on the side of Hillary Clinton, helping her fight Trump.

“Sooner rather than later, the Trump team and other Republicans will achieve an investigation. And here, by a happy coincidence, all the archives burned down. Let’s not forget that in 1917 the file of the criminal investigation department was burned first. Lvov himself ordered the destruction of network equipment and computers in the embassy," international journalist Nadezhda Sass writes on her Facebook.

According to Andrew Stattaford, editor of the National Review magazine, the transfer of the embassy to Lviv, and especially the destruction of documents and dismantling of equipment, looked like an act of surrender.

"The US response to the Ukraine crisis is reminiscent of the fiasco in Kabul," Stattaford tells us.

In the destruction of classified materials, according to Andriy Telizhenko, a former employee of the Ukrainian embassy in the United States, in addition to the Bidens and the top echelons of the Democratic Party, high-ranking American officials may also be interested (compromising evidence on which can hit their bosses).

"For example, Mr. Jake Sullivan (Obama and the Clintons man, now Biden's national security adviser - herald of the invasion, who speaks loudest of all about "Putin's attack this week," - Red.). As the investigation found, he lied in his testimony about Russiagate in 2018-2019. It turned out that he ordered materials against Trump during the 2016 election campaign, when he worked in the Clinton campaign. It is possible that not only the Bidens are interested in destroying certain documents in Ukraine, but also senior officials who could organize coordination with the exit of the diplomatic mission in order to clear up traces of their affairs. When Sullivan began commenting on the invasion, it was reported that he was involved in the anti-Trump campaign. And what he said before, under oath, was a lie. Another possible stakeholder is the Clintons, who hired a Trump spying campaign to come up with a story about his ties to Russia's Alfa Bank. And many things within the framework of this campaign came from Ukraine,"

Indeed, Fox News, citing sources, writes that Jake Sullivan is mentioned in the investigation into the circumstances of surveillance of the Trump campaign in 2016.

Previously investigating U.S. Special Counsel John Durham charged perjury against Democratic lawyer Michael Sussman, who in 2016 provided the FBI with information about an alleged "secret communication channel" between Trump's Trump Organization and a Russian bank. The lawyer hid that he acted in the interests of the Clinton headquarters, as well as a certain company.

Sullivan is listed in the indictment as a "foreign policy adviser." According to the channel, the document indicates that a Clinton campaign lawyer discussed the information provided by Sussman "with her campaign manager, director of communications and foreign policy adviser."

Fox News notes that Sullivan's mention in the indictment demonstrates the Durham investigation's "shortest connection to the Joe Biden administration to date."

American political scientist Dmitry Drobnitsky also speaks about the "Sullivan factor" and compromising evidence on him, who published a caricature of the scandalous Biden adviser and Secretary of State Blinken: "The more compromising evidence on Sullivan, the worse it is with de-escalation."

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“When signs of de-escalation appeared and Biden’s speech about Ukraine was being prepared, publications appeared about illegal wiretapping of Trump. It turned out that he was listened to both during the election campaign and when he already became president. And that Sullivan was directly involved in this. , show videos, as he said that "the Russians have definitely hacked into the electoral system and are leading Trump to the presidency." The war of compromising evidence in the United States is immediately reflected on the international agenda. ", perhaps, one of the most dangerous and previously unseen phenomena in geopolitics. For example, when there was a Watergate in 1972-1974 against Nixon, it was calm on the outer contour," Drobnitsky said in the Now program.

Hacker attacks from Ukraine
They could also destroy documents and servers related to the possible interference of the Democratic Party in the US elections on the side of Clinton in 2016 - with the help of Ukraine.

Trump mentioned them during a scandalous telephone conversation with Zelensky, who almost brought the ex-president to impeachment. According to his entourage, Ukrainians, not Russians, were behind the hacker attack on the servers of the Democratic Party.

"Crowdstrike says (a company in the Us that specializes in countering cyber attacks - Ed.) ... It's about one of your rich people. The server, as they say, is in Ukraine," Trump said.

Crowdstrike is a company that helped investigate the penetration of hackers into the networks of the US National Democratic Committee in the last presidential election, from where the information was leaked to WikiLeaks. We are talking about Clinton's secret e-mail correspondence, the publication of which shook her rating.

In November 2018, Reuters wrote that hackers from the Cozy Bear group, which is associated with Russian special services, sent phishing letters to US officials, hiding behind the names of representatives of the US State Department. Information about this was shared with the agency by representatives of CrowdStrike and FireEye Inc., specializing in cybersecurity.

"There is a version that hacker servers are actually not in Russia, but in Ukraine, from friends of the Democratic Party. And that the Democrats themselves staged the hack in order to thus compromise Trump in alleged collision with Russia, as well as to justify the loss of the election. Democrats, of course, deny everything," Peter Stone, a Political Expert from Washington, told Strana.

This version was indirectly previously promoted by Trump himself.

"Why did the Democratic National Committee refuse to hand over its server to the FBI? This is a big scam of the Democrats and the justification for losing the election!" wrote Trump on Twitter in June 2017.

In turn, Crowdstrike claims that they transferred the servers to the FBI.

"We have provided all forensics and analysis to the FBI," CrowdStrike spokeswoman Ilina Kashiola told the New York Times.



Alperovich, a Russian immigrant, founded Crowdstrike in 2011 with George Kurtz (both former McAfee executives), according to Forbes.

Our sources in diplomatic circles say that in addition to the Biden case, they want Trump to investigate cyber attacks on the Democratic Party servers that could come from Ukraine in collusion with the local pro-democracy elite.

Like, the Democrats hoped to kill two birds with one stone - to accuse Russia of interfering, and Trump of conspiring with it.

"Among the destroyed files could also be documents related to hacker attacks," - says the source.
 

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Why does Biden has Classified Files in his "Think Tank"?

As Vice President, he had no authority to remove those files ......

Why specifically, files on Ukraine?
 
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What documents and why destroyed the US Embassy in Kiev during the move (strana-today.translate.goog)

Another bit of news the US media will never print
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On the eve of the "invasion" announced by the United States, but never took place, the American embassy in Kyiv was closed and documents were destroyed. Photo: RIA Novosti
One possible explanation for the sudden and hasty relocation of the US Embassy from Kiev to Lviv, with the destruction of documents and servers, could be an attempt to cover its tracks in the case of interference in the 2016 elections on the side of Hillary Clinton.

This version is increasingly discussed in expert circles.

The United States closed its embassy in Kiev amid "threats of Russian invasion of Ukraine" by decree of Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

The destruction of the documents was discussed in a Feb. 12 phone call between Under Secretary of State for Management and Resources Brian McKeon and House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Gregory Meeks, Hill reported.

What is behind this, the "Country" understood.

The Bidens and invasion herald Sullivan
During the move, the embassy staff destroyed some of the files, among which, according to the official version, were applications for green cards and raw passport documents, explaining this by the protocol for the protection of confidential information (by other owls, so as not to fall into the hands of "enemies").

Also, according to the Wall Street Journal, diplomats were ordered to destroy network equipment and computer workstations, as well as dismantle the telephone system of the embassy.

Details in the State Department classified. State Department spokesman Ned Price at the briefing said he could not provide details about the destruction of documents at the US embassy in Kyiv, but said no valid passports were destroyed.

"There is a standard set of procedures that we run when we start downsizing an embassy," Price said. "We've taken reasonable precautions when it comes to sensitive documents and sensitive equipment, but we just can't provide details."

There is an opinion that behind the destruction of the document is actually the toxic history of the Biden family's relationship with the Ukrainian elite.

We are talking about compromising evidence related to the work of Biden's son, Hunter, who received 50 thousand dollars a month in a Ukrainian oil company under the protection of his father. As well as accusations that the Ukrainian authorities, on the orders of the then White House administration, interfered in the American elections on the side of Hillary Clinton, helping her fight Trump.

“Sooner rather than later, the Trump team and other Republicans will achieve an investigation. And here, by a happy coincidence, all the archives burned down. Let’s not forget that in 1917 the file of the criminal investigation department was burned first. Lvov himself ordered the destruction of network equipment and computers in the embassy," international journalist Nadezhda Sass writes on her Facebook.

According to Andrew Stattaford, editor of the National Review magazine, the transfer of the embassy to Lviv, and especially the destruction of documents and dismantling of equipment, looked like an act of surrender.

"The US response to the Ukraine crisis is reminiscent of the fiasco in Kabul," Stattaford tells us.

In the destruction of classified materials, according to Andriy Telizhenko, a former employee of the Ukrainian embassy in the United States, in addition to the Bidens and the top echelons of the Democratic Party, high-ranking American officials may also be interested (compromising evidence on which can hit their bosses).

"For example, Mr. Jake Sullivan (Obama and the Clintons man, now Biden's national security adviser - herald of the invasion, who speaks loudest of all about "Putin's attack this week," - Red.). As the investigation found, he lied in his testimony about Russiagate in 2018-2019. It turned out that he ordered materials against Trump during the 2016 election campaign, when he worked in the Clinton campaign. It is possible that not only the Bidens are interested in destroying certain documents in Ukraine, but also senior officials who could organize coordination with the exit of the diplomatic mission in order to clear up traces of their affairs. When Sullivan began commenting on the invasion, it was reported that he was involved in the anti-Trump campaign. And what he said before, under oath, was a lie. Another possible stakeholder is the Clintons, who hired a Trump spying campaign to come up with a story about his ties to Russia's Alfa Bank. And many things within the framework of this campaign came from Ukraine,"

Indeed, Fox News, citing sources, writes that Jake Sullivan is mentioned in the investigation into the circumstances of surveillance of the Trump campaign in 2016.

Previously investigating U.S. Special Counsel John Durham charged perjury against Democratic lawyer Michael Sussman, who in 2016 provided the FBI with information about an alleged "secret communication channel" between Trump's Trump Organization and a Russian bank. The lawyer hid that he acted in the interests of the Clinton headquarters, as well as a certain company.

Sullivan is listed in the indictment as a "foreign policy adviser." According to the channel, the document indicates that a Clinton campaign lawyer discussed the information provided by Sussman "with her campaign manager, director of communications and foreign policy adviser."

Fox News notes that Sullivan's mention in the indictment demonstrates the Durham investigation's "shortest connection to the Joe Biden administration to date."

American political scientist Dmitry Drobnitsky also speaks about the "Sullivan factor" and compromising evidence on him, who published a caricature of the scandalous Biden adviser and Secretary of State Blinken: "The more compromising evidence on Sullivan, the worse it is with de-escalation."

273845013_339832911397101_5451654430999934391_n.jpg


“When signs of de-escalation appeared and Biden’s speech about Ukraine was being prepared, publications appeared about illegal wiretapping of Trump. It turned out that he was listened to both during the election campaign and when he already became president. And that Sullivan was directly involved in this. , show videos, as he said that "the Russians have definitely hacked into the electoral system and are leading Trump to the presidency." The war of compromising evidence in the United States is immediately reflected on the international agenda. ", perhaps, one of the most dangerous and previously unseen phenomena in geopolitics. For example, when there was a Watergate in 1972-1974 against Nixon, it was calm on the outer contour," Drobnitsky said in the Now program.

Hacker attacks from Ukraine
They could also destroy documents and servers related to the possible interference of the Democratic Party in the US elections on the side of Clinton in 2016 - with the help of Ukraine.

Trump mentioned them during a scandalous telephone conversation with Zelensky, who almost brought the ex-president to impeachment. According to his entourage, Ukrainians, not Russians, were behind the hacker attack on the servers of the Democratic Party.

"Crowdstrike says (a company in the Us that specializes in countering cyber attacks - Ed.) ... It's about one of your rich people. The server, as they say, is in Ukraine," Trump said.

Crowdstrike is a company that helped investigate the penetration of hackers into the networks of the US National Democratic Committee in the last presidential election, from where the information was leaked to WikiLeaks. We are talking about Clinton's secret e-mail correspondence, the publication of which shook her rating.
All of this is based on maybes, could bes, thinking of journalists with a bias, possibles, might haves etc. I don't like Biden. I loathe the Communist (oops I mean democratic ) party. But I also loathe when reporters create stories based on maybes with just circumstantial unverifiable evidence.
 

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All of this is based on maybes, could bes, thinking of journalists with a bias, possibles, might haves etc. I don't like Biden. I loathe the Communist (oops I mean democratic ) party. But I also loathe when reporters create stories based on maybes with just circumstantial unverifiable evidence.
A little more facts on the shady side of Biden and U Penn ~China

Although the proverbial disclaimer that no money went to the think tank... this is... after all... u Penn and IMO not very trustworthy.


The Facts

Trump's claim appears to be based on a letter written by Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

In correspondence to UPenn sent on January 18, 2023, Comer states that after the Penn Biden Center was announced in 2017
"UPenn's donations originating from China more than tripled."

That claim was based on another letter sent by Comer on January 27, 2021, that quoted the federal government's College Foreign Gift Reporting website, which records "contracts with and gifts from a foreign source that, alone or combined, are valued at $250,000 or more in a calendar year."

Comer's letter stated: "In the 37 months of available reporting prior to the announcement of the Biden Center, the University received about $21,187,333 from China.


"In contrast, in the 39 months of available reporting since the announcement of the Biden Center, the University received $72,274,675 from China—an increase of $51,087,342 in a similar time frame."

The figures quoted in Comer's report roughly match those found by Newsweek using the same database.

"Gifts" received in the 37 months between January 1, 2014, and February 1, 2017, originating from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong totaled $24,244,096, while in the 39 months between February 1, 2017, and May 1, 2020, the total received came to $77,375,918, an increase of $53,131,822. None of the payments were labeled a "Foreign government source".
 

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Here's the OTHER SIDE of "the truth" as many people don't really understand what is going on.

 

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A little more facts on the shady side of Biden and U Penn ~China

Although the proverbial disclaimer that no money went to the think tank... this is... after all... u Penn and IMO not very trustworthy.


The Facts

Trump's claim appears to be based on a letter written by Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

In correspondence to UPenn sent on January 18, 2023, Comer states that after the Penn Biden Center was announced in 2017 "UPenn's donations originating from China more than tripled."

That claim was based on another letter sent by Comer on January 27, 2021, that quoted the federal government's College Foreign Gift Reporting website, which records "contracts with and gifts from a foreign source that, alone or combined, are valued at $250,000 or more in a calendar year."

Comer's letter stated: "In the 37 months of available reporting prior to the announcement of the Biden Center, the University received about $21,187,333 from China.

"In contrast, in the 39 months of available reporting since the announcement of the Biden Center, the University received $72,274,675 from China—an increase of $51,087,342 in a similar time frame."

The figures quoted in Comer's report roughly match those found by Newsweek using the same database.

"Gifts" received in the 37 months between January 1, 2014, and February 1, 2017, originating from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong totaled $24,244,096, while in the 39 months between February 1, 2017, and May 1, 2020, the total received came to $77,375,918, an increase of $53,131,822. None of the payments were labeled a "Foreign government source".
Thanks.
 

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I think he puts his curlers in too tight at night.....

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Rand Paul is an american hero. Our founders warned of getting entangled in foreign wars and here we are spread across the globe and pumping billions to Ukraine in a proxy war with russia. I hate Russia but I am wondering how involved we should be.

With $34 trillion in debt and an invasion occurring at our southern border, I just do not know the wisdom of pouring over $100 billion in to Ukraine.

After WW2 in order for the dollar to become the worlds currency, we agreed to police the seas and keep them safe for free travel. That is a noble effort and allowed America to explode in prosperity.

We are like the ancient Roman Empire now. we have troops in 136 nations at present. We are spread very very thin and colla[sing the same way , howbeit much faster than rome did.
 

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Rand Paul is an american hero. Our founders warned of getting entangled in foreign wars and here we are spread across the globe and pumping billions to Ukraine in a proxy war with russia. I hate Russia but I am wondering how involved we should be.

With $34 trillion in debt and an invasion occurring at our southern border, I just do not know the wisdom of pouring over $100 billion in to Ukraine.

After WW2 in order for the dollar to become the worlds currency, we agreed to police the seas and keep them safe for free travel. That is a noble effort and allowed America to explode in prosperity.

We are like the ancient Roman Empire now. we have troops in 136 nations at present. We are spread very very thin and colla[sing the same way , howbeit much faster than rome did.
But if you will read the link...

The link has no propaganda...just historical facts as public records indicate. And it demonstrates a consistency that is incongruous with his party affiliation. Sure, he has twisted a bit of excuses as to why he holds the position he holds but it's not logical or has any logic whatsoever. He is a self serving politician just like so many others are and is not a "hero" except to Russia for being in their employ.
 

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Rand Paul is an american hero. Our founders warned of getting entangled in foreign wars and here we are spread across the globe and pumping billions to Ukraine in a proxy war with russia. I hate Russia but I am wondering how involved we should be.

With $34 trillion in debt and an invasion occurring at our southern border, I just do not know the wisdom of pouring over $100 billion in to Ukraine.

After WW2 in order for the dollar to become the worlds currency, we agreed to police the seas and keep them safe for free travel. That is a noble effort and allowed America to explode in prosperity.

We are like the ancient Roman Empire now. we have troops in 136 nations at present. We are spread very very thin and colla[sing the same way , howbeit much faster than rome did.
What scares me is it seems like anytime we have had financial problems and deep dept we have ended in a war.
 
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But if you will read the link...

The link has no propaganda...just historical facts as public records indicate. And it demonstrates a consistency that is incongruous with his party affiliation. Sure, he has twisted a bit of excuses as to why he holds the position he holds but it's not logical or has any logic whatsoever. He is a self serving politician just like so many others are and is not a "hero" except to Russia for being in their employ.
Well the link you posted just made an accusation without evidence.
 

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Well the link you posted just made an accusation without evidence.
No....it provided definite substance to back up what it said. It's not a false accusations when there's evidence. What seems false is the senator's excuses for his behavior.
 

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No....it provided definite substance to back up what it said. It's not a false accusations when there's evidence. What seems false is the senator's excuses for his behavior.
All you rlink said was Rand Paul was pro soviet. It did not give evidence or support. It just made a simple declaration without evidence. Maybe I missed another post where you gave a link with evidence.
 

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All you rlink said was Rand Paul was pro soviet. It did not give evidence or support. It just made a simple declaration without evidence. Maybe I missed another post where you gave a link with evidence.
It was the OP of an entire thread of 21 posts worth of evidence. Each one with a salient point of his activities. You only read the title post and missed the entire thread?

These aren't secrets...these are publicly known facts without innuendo. It's pretty solid evidence.
 

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It was the OP of an entire thread of 21 posts worth of evidence. Each one with a salient point of his activities. You only read the title post and missed the entire thread?

These aren't secrets...these are publicly known facts without innuendo. It's pretty solid evidence.
I too missed it.

Seems more of a Russian collusion non specific link type of thing to me.

I want to see him quoted in at least 10, if not all of these
 

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It was the OP of an entire thread of 21 posts worth of evidence. Each one with a salient point of his activities. You only read the title post and missed the entire thread?

These aren't secrets...these are publicly known facts without innuendo. It's pretty solid evidence.
I read the OP of this thread which does not have 21 posts yet.

Teh destruction of documents is SOP in moving or closing an embassy. They do not list what documents are destroyed, burnt or shredded.

I am not a Biden fan, but the OP on this thread is filled with innuendo and not hard facts. Give me a link to this other thread and I will read it.
 

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Has anyone posting on this thread actually seen the documents that got destroyed? Or is this Biden-bashing all based on hearsay? I think Biden is pretty much a Bozo myself, but even he gets the benefit of the doubt with me when it comes to conspiracy theories and the like.