Daniel 11:17

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Christina

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I borrowed this from another site thoughts anyone.......................................................Daniel 11:17-2117 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thusshall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.Pastor teaches this woman is the religion ISLAM, "corrupting her"=Radical Islam.18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many:he; I believe is Osama Bin laden, Turn his face unto the Isles means he plans and organizes the twin tower attacks, The Isles are, The United States of America, and or Manhattan Island. And many died.but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.But a prince=President Bush; own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.=Revenge19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.We went over and ran out the Taliban and haven't seen Osama Bin laden since.20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle."Stand up"=run for President (Obama)?. "in his estate"=for his own selfishness, Taxes=OT:5065 nagas (naw-gas'); a primitive root; to drive (an animal, a workman, a debtor, an army); by implication, to tax, harass, tyrannize: distress, driver, exact (-or), oppress (-or), raiser of taxes, taskmaster.Heres the word I think were looking for;oppress, as this is exactly what Obama's policies will do.Pastor teaches that this "no gas" is how its pronounced, and that thats just what it means.As Obama is now the elect President, it looks like more than ever he is the raiser of Taxes.Now, Doesn't say he will make it to prince as Bush was, So when does he stand up? First I thought at his nomination, now it could be as he is elected, or sworn in? not sure, but right after he falls, Anti Christ! "within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle."21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
 

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OK, but also think about this, What happened in the last month or so with the bail out? Did Bush raise the taxes? Obama fits the image of the "vile person" also.Dan 11:20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. Dan 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. Dan 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. Dan 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. Dan 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time. Dan 11:25 And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him. Dan 11:26 Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain. Dan 11:27 And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed. Dan 11:28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land. Dan 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter. Dan 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant. Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
 

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Bush did pass the bail out ...However I think Tax cuts for the Rich is more thing thats tagged upon his head.but it was Obama's Cronies Nancy and Harry that rewrote it pushed it through even after it was voted down the first time. Now they a working on a second Bail out Plan and I just heard Pelosi say they are considering a third .. So I think by the time this Washes out that Obama and the Liberal Left will be the King of Tax raisers.
 

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Bush did pass the bail out ...However I think Tax cuts for the Rich is more thing thats tagged upon his head.but it was Obama's Cronies Nancy and Harry that rewrote it pushed it through even after it was voted down the first time. Now they a working on a second Bail out Plan and I just heard Pelosi say they are considering a third .. So I think by the time this Washes out that Obama and the Liberal Left will be the King of Tax raisers.
Three Bail outs? This makes so many people rely on men. Ugh, too disgusting.
 

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...So I think by the time this Washes out that Obama and the Liberal Left will be the King of Tax raisers.
Yes, their will be a flood of taxes.Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood(G4215) after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood (G4216) .
 

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Post found on another web site:DATA JUST RECEIVED ON TAXES Spread the word..... This is something you should be aware of so you don't get blind-sided. This is really going to catch a lot of families off guard. It should make you worry. Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election: CAPITAL GAINS TAX MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples) McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax. OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income. DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change) OBAMA 39.6% How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or re-invests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama become president. The experts predict that 'higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit. INCOME TAX MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250 OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Under Obama your taxes will more than double! How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This is pretty straight forward. INHERITANCE TAX MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax How does this affect you? Many families have lost businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to these taxes. NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA * New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet * New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) * New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) * New taxes on retirement accounts and last but not least.... * New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other Third-world countries!!! Thank You Robert D. Jenkins Vice President - Investments Chartered Retirement Planning Counselor Wachovia Securities, LLC 314-991-7812 800-999-4448 toll-free [email protected] www.home.wachoviasecurities.com/robert.jenkins