THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27

[Douggg]

Not all of them do. Not all equate the entire 70th week with the tribulation. Some equate the tribulation only with a time period that begins after the supposed future 70th week begins and, usually, those only see the last 3.5 years before Christ's returns as being the tribulation. So, for them, pre-trib means He comes at some point after the 70th week begins and before the last 3.5 years begins.

The three most popular rapture timing views incorporating the "trib" term are...

Pre-trib - pre-70th week

Mid-trib - mid-70th week

Post-trib - post-70th week (i.e the rapture to take place on the day that Jesus returns)

All three hold that the entire 70th week is tribulation.

And all three hold that the Great Tribulation begins at the mid-point of the 70th week.

Pre-trib holds the position that the rapture will take place before the Antichrist is revealed who he is - as he starts the 70th week by confirming a peace covenant.

There are several critical flaws with each of the three views.

The flaws are...
1. the 70th week is not all tribulation.
2. the Great Tribulation does not begin at the midpoint, but on day 1185 of the 7 years.

My view is....the rapture could take place anytime between now and the transgression of desolation act.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The three most popular rapture timing views incorporating the "trib" term are...

Pre-trib - pre-70th week

Mid-trib - mid-70th week

Post-trib - post-70th week (i.e the rapture to take place on the day that Jesus returns)

Doug, was I debating this? No, I was not. You don't need to tell me things like this. You completely wasted your time. I was simply pointing out that there are other pre-trib views besides that one.

]Pre-trib holds the position that the rapture will take place before the Antichrist is revealed who he is - as he starts the 70th week by confirming a peace covenant.

That doesn't seem like tribulation at all, so this is why some pre-tribs do not see the tribulation as starting in the beginning of the supposed future 70th week, but instead some time after that. Let's say they see it starting halfway through the 70th week. So, for them pre-trib means the rapture can occur after the 70th week begins, but has to be before the midway point of the 70th week.

 

[Douggg]

That doesn't seem like tribulation at all, so this is why some pre-tribs do not see the tribulation as starting in the beginning of the supposed future 70th week, but instead some time after that. Let's say they see it starting halfway through the 70th week. So, for them pre-trib means the rapture can occur after the 70th week begins, but has to be before the midway point of the 70th week.

Name some pre-tribber who considers that the rapture can occur after the 70th week begins - but before the midway point of the 70th week.

This is the typical pretribber position....

Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

Frequently I am asked to explain or defend the end-time view of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church.

christinprophecy.org

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Name some pre-tribber who considers that the rapture can occur after the 70th week begins - but before the midway point of the 70th week.

This is the typical pretribber position....

Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture

Frequently I am asked to explain or defend the end-time view of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church.

christinprophecy.org

LOL. I don't recall names offhand, but it's a view I have seen. I am not saying it's the typical view. I just thought I'd point out that there are other pre-trib views since you came across as if there was only one. I have no interest in discussing this any further.

 

[Douggg]

LOL. I don't recall names offhand, but it's a view I have seen. I am not saying it's the typical view. I just thought I'd point out that there are other pre-trib views since you came across as if there was only one. I have no interest in discussing this any further.

There is only one pre-trib view in regards to the 70th week.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

There is only one pre-trib view in regards to the 70th week.

You are a stubborn one. I have seen and heard the comments of pretribs who do not believe the tribulation begins at the beginning of the 70th week, but rather begins a bit after that or at the midpoint. So, you can't tell me otherwise. It's a minority view among pretribs, but some have it.

 

[Douggg]

You are a stubborn one. I have seen and heard the comments of pretribs who do not believe the tribulation begins at the beginning of the 70th week, but rather begins a bit after that or at the midpoint. So, you can't tell me otherwise. It's a minority view among pretribs, but some have it.

So post a link to some pre-trib site that holds the view you claim exists.

 

[Davy]

The Pre-tribulation rapture view is that the rapture will take place before the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 begins.

The FALSE Pre-trib Rapture THEORY is the belief that Christ secretly raptures out His Church PRIOR... to the start of the "great tribulation". (Look at Tim LaHaye's fake Left-Behind series and movies)

The "great tribulation" begins with the placing of the "abomination of desolation" IDOL at a NEW Jew's temple in JERUSALEM, as shown by Jesus in Matthew 24:15. SO HEAR YE, HEAR YE, BRETHREN IN CHRIST!

The "great tribulation" is the LATTER HALF of the Daniel 9:27 "one week" (the 70th final week). It is 1260 days, the SAME 1260 days God's "two witnesses" are given to prophesy against the beast per Revelation 11.

Anyone who can read can easily know the above timings. Those who refuse the above don't want... to read, and thus could care less about God's written Word, and will have their reward when Jesus returns.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So post a link to some pre-trib site that holds the view you claim exists.

I'm not aware of any such site. I'm talking about what I have seen people say in the past on forums like this and to me in person. If you don't want to believe that, then that's your problem.