Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?

[dad]

Certainly by verse 31 it is talking about the AntiChrist.

31 His army will take over the Temple fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration

It blends from the past (the evil Greek king that was a forerunner or precursor to the AC) into the final years of history.


I don't think we really know exactly when the transition happens in the chapter. However, looking at verse 20 and seeing the Trump tariffs and etc it seems to me that this possibly could be a fit.

20 Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute for the glory of the kingdom. But within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle.

20 His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. But after a very brief reign, he will die, though not from anger or in battle


If this was a fit, then it looks like that final leader would come after Trump. A vile person slithers in and takes power. Thoughts?

 

[Randy Kluth]

Certainly by verse 31 it is talking about the AntiChrist.

This is hardly "certain!" It is a very arguable point. I and many others have believed that Dan 11 ends with a prophecy about Antiochus 4--not the Antichrist. There is nothing in there about the last days. Any reference to the "time of the end" is a reference to the end of a reign or designated era. It is not of necessity an eschatological statement.

31 His army will take over the Temple fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration

Antiochus 4 caused desolation.

It blends from the past (the evil Greek king that was a forerunner or precursor to the AC) into the final years of history.

Actually, I think it was *all* about Antiochus 4. This was a significant time in Israel's history, and it was heavily emphasized to Daniel. The account appears to be repeated with different elements brought out.

I don't think we really know exactly when the transition happens in the chapter. However, looking at verse 20 and seeing the Trump tariffs and etc it seems to me that this possibly could be a fit.

20 Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute for the glory of the kingdom. But within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle.

20 His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. But after a very brief reign, he will die, though not from anger or in battle


If this was a fit, then it looks like that final leader would come after Trump. A vile person slithers in and takes power. Thoughts?

Antiochus 4 appears in vs 21 and following. It details his reign.

Some of what he does is called the "abomination of desolation," not to be confused with the same term referring to the Roman Army in Dan 9. There were 2 AoDs mentioned in the book of Daniel, Dan 9 and Dan 8,11.

One was Antiochus' act of sacrilege within the temple with an idol. The other was a pagan army violating the premises of holy Jerusalem when they set a siege in order to break through and destroy the temple. My view only.

Obviously, Antiochus' acts of terror, setting up and idol and murdering thousands of Jews, were intended in the book of Daniel to foreshadow the Roman acts of terror, destroying Jerusalem and the Temple. But I think you're right that Antiochus 4 also foreshadows, in some way, the Antichrist.

 

[dad]

This is hardly "certain!" It is a very arguable point. I and many others have believed that Dan 11 ends with a prophecy about Antiochus 4--not the Antichrist. There is nothing in there about the last days. Any reference to the "time of the end" is a reference to the end of a reign or designated era. It is not of necessity an eschatological statement.

Not really. Try and argue and see why

Antiochus 4 caused desolation.

Yes he was a shadow of things to come and obviously could not have been in the time this prophesy is about. If you don't believe me, believe the angle that told us precisely when this time was.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book

That did not happen yet

 

[Douggg]

The end times kicks in - in Daniel 11:36, speaking about the beast-kng of Revelation 13, worshiped, Revelation 13:8.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Not really. Try and argue and see why

I've argued this a number of times in the last few years, and have been very detailed about each element involved. I can argue these things again if you like?

Importantly, the last section is a reiteration of all Antiochus 4 did, vss 36-39 focusing on his religion, and vss 40-45 focusing on a bird's eye view of his accomplishments as a temporary achievement.

The following is about his religion...
36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.

The following looks at his achievements overall as a temporary accomplishment....
40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at[f] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.

The "King of the South" is the King of Egypt, who Antiochus invades on several occasions. In the process, he also interferes with Jewish religion and invades Israel. He is ultimately pulled to Persia in the East from which he never returns. The previous verses have already detailed these things, and as such, they are just being reiterated in summary.

Yes he was a shadow of things to come and obviously could not have been in the time this prophesy is about. If you don't believe me, believe the angle that told us precisely when this time was.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book

I'm well aware that the prophecy of Dan 11. 21-25 leads up to the prophecy of Dan 12.1-7. We obviously see the "time of trouble" described in verse 1 differently?

It is also called the "time of distress" or in the Olivet Discourse of Jesus, the "great tribulation," or the "great distress." I define this period as beginning with Roman rule, in particular in 70 AD when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by a Roman Army.

This follows naturally after the prophecy of Antiochus 4 because the Roman period of rule immediately followed the period of Greek rule, represented in part by Antiochus 4 of Syria. It was in fact the Romans who helped stem the tide of Antiochus' conquest of Egypt, leading to his withdrawal to the North.

The Great Distress began, in my view, in 70 AD and led to the Jewish Diaspora of the NT era. The Jews have been in a kind of exile for about 2000 years, which is why I think it is called the "great" distress. It is the worst Jewish punishment in their history. Luke 21.

That did not happen yet

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[Exegesis]

Certainly by verse 31 it is talking about the AntiChrist.

If you are referring to Herod and his dynasty, then technically, yes. They were all the spirit of Antichrist.

31 His army will take over the Temple fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration

The above verse is describing the Crucifixion.

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It blends from the past (the evil Greek king that was a forerunner or precursor to the AC) into the final years of history.

No. Daniel 11 has already happened.

I don't think we really know exactly when the transition happens in the chapter.

Of course we do. The timeline is chronological and predictable historical fact. There is no 'transition into the future' with some imaginary gap in between.

However, looking at verse 20 and seeing the Trump tariffs and etc it seems to me that this possibly could be a fit.

Now I know not to take you seriously. Oh well, I may as well finish my comments.

20 Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute for the glory of the kingdom. But within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle.

Julius Caesar is a good fit for the above.

20 His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. But after a very brief reign, he will die, though not from anger or in battle

How long did Julius Caesar rule as dictator?

If this was a fit, then it looks like that final leader would come after Trump. A vile person slithers in and takes power. Thoughts?

Many will try and use Antiochus IV Epiphanes as a scapegoat to erase Jesus and the Crucifixion from the Old Testament, especially from Daniel. They hate Jesus so much that they twist Daniel 11 to make it all about Antiochus 'sacrificing a pig' or whatever. They are the spirit of Antichrist.

Do a study on the word 'desolate'. This is a serious word associated with great physical destruction, not 'desecrating the Temple by swine'. This is Bible 101 exegesis.

You @dad are doing something similar in that you are erasing the finished work of Jesus and making prophecy about YOURSELF and how amazing YOU are, and how God only cares about YOU. So naturally, God saved the biggest and best prophecies until YOU were born, right?

There is just no way that important people existed long ago. Why? Because YOU and TRUMP weren't there. You are making the same mistake as most. You are letting your ego interpret the verses to make them exciting to the times YOU are living in. I would suggest you humble yourself and realize that it's not all about YOU and the times YOU are living in.

This verse is describing the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD:

Daniel 11:33 - "And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days."

Those that understood Daniel instructed many to leave Jerusalem. The 'time of the end' is the end of the 70 weeks prophecy, i.e., 70AD:

Daniel 11:35 - "And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed."

It is well known amongst scholars that the 'desire of women' was to give birth to the Messiah. Obviously, many women at the time of King Herod wanted to give birth to Jesus:

Daniel 11:37 - "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."

King Herod tried to kill Jesus, remember? He fulfilled the prophecy perfectly. It is finished. Why not appreciate the beauty of what was foretold so many years before? Are you trying to erase all that history from the Bible like the others posting here?

Look:

Daniel 11:38 - "But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."

God of Forces. Think Romans, during the Herod dynasty duh. This is too easy! Why is everyone here trying to delete Jesus from Scripture? Crazy.

 

[Exegesis]

Please don't delete Jesus and the Crucifixion from the Old Testament.

 

[dad]

I've argued this a number of times in the last few years, and have been very detailed about each element involved. I can argue these things again if you like?

Importantly, the last section is a reiteration of all Antiochus 4 did, vss 36-39 focusing on his religion, and vss 40-45 focusing on a bird's eye view of his accomplishments as a temporary achievement.

The following is about his religion...
36 “The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all. 38 Instead of them, he will honor a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and costly gifts. 39 He will attack the mightiest fortresses with the help of a foreign god and will greatly honor those who acknowledge him. He will make them rulers over many people and will distribute the land at a price.

The following looks at his achievements overall as a temporary accomplishment....
40 “At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Cushites[e] in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at[f] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.

The "King of the South" is the King of Egypt, who Antiochus invades on several occasions. In the process, he also interferes with Jewish religion and invades Israel. He is ultimately pulled to Persia in the East from which he never returns. The previous verses have already detailed these things, and as such, they are just being reiterated in summary.

There was a king of the south, but that would not be the same king of the south of the end time. There was an antigod king but he was not the same person as the final king etc. The time the prophesy is set in is the end time as dan 12:1 clearly says.

I'm well aware that the prophecy of Dan 11. 21-25 leads up to the prophecy of Dan 12.1-7. We obviously see the "time of trouble" described in verse 1 differently?

Jesus spoke of that time of trouble

Matthew 24:21
For the trouble at that time will be far more terrible than any there has ever been, from the beginning of the world to this very day. Nor will there ever be anything like it again.

It is also called the "time of distress" or in the Olivet Discourse of Jesus, the "great tribulation," or the "great distress." I define this period as beginning with Roman rule, in particular in 70 AD when Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed by a Roman Army.

No, it lasts 42 months. The clock ran out on your schedule. It also did not end with Jesus returning immediately after!!

 

[dad]

Please don't delete Jesus and the Crucifixion from the Old Testament.

What verse in Dan 11 talks about the crucifixion?

 

[soberxp]

Certainly by verse 31 it is talking about the AntiChrist.

31 His army will take over the Temple fortress, pollute the sanctuary, put a stop to the daily sacrifices, and set up the sacrilegious object that causes desecration

It blends from the past (the evil Greek king that was a forerunner or precursor to the AC) into the final years of history.


I don't think we really know exactly when the transition happens in the chapter. However, looking at verse 20 and seeing the Trump tariffs and etc it seems to me that this possibly could be a fit.

20 Then shall arise in his place one who shall send an exactor of tribute for the glory of the kingdom. But within a few days he shall be broken, neither in anger nor in battle.

20 His successor will send out a tax collector to maintain the royal splendor. But after a very brief reign, he will die, though not from anger or in battle


If this was a fit, then it looks like that final leader would come after Trump. A vile person slithers in and takes power. Thoughts?

Ecclesiastes
1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

 

[dad]

If you are referring to Herod and his dynasty, then technically, yes. They were all the spirit of Antichrist.

No The ruler in the end period possessed by Satan that jesus will kill and that causes all the world to worship him etc etc was not silly old little Herod is tiny little Israel.

The above verse is describing the Crucifixion.

The return of Christ was not 'the crucifixion'

No. Daniel 11 has already happened.

Actually not every one written in the book was delivered then.

Daniel 12:1
"At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book

Of course we do. The timeline is chronological and predictable historical fact. There is no 'transition into the future' with some imaginary gap in between.

You would need to know the difference between prophesy and history. Conflating the two shows you don't

Julius Caesar is a good fit for the above.

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No, After Caesar died no vile person took over in a time when Michael stood up and we were all delivered etc etc.

Many will try and use Antiochus IV Epiphanes as a scapegoat to erase Jesus and the Crucifixion from the Old Testament, especially from Daniel. They hate Jesus so much that they twist Daniel 11 to make it all about Antiochus 'sacrificing a pig' or whatever. They are the spirit of Antichrist.

The verse in Dan 11 about a crucifixion?? Ha

Do a study on the word 'desolate'. This is a serious word associated with great physical destruction, not 'desecrating the Temple by swine'. This is Bible 101 exegesis.

Study the word context.

There is just no way that important people existed long ago. Why? Because YOU and TRUMP weren't there.

Nor was anyone like the false prophet, antichrist, etc etc there in the past. Forgrt Trump, you need to learn to make the jump! The jump out of the past and into the thing the prophesy totally and clearly set in the end of days is about. Until you do, you will continue to demonstrate a gross lack of understanding.

You are making the same mistake as most. You are letting your ego interpret the verses to make them exciting to the times YOU are living in. I would suggest you humble yourself and realize that it's not all about YOU and the times YOU are living in.

Whether we are there yet or not is not important. The thing is, those days will come. Seeing how the world is today, it is quite fair to wonder if we are closer than we thought. Obviously we do not know the AC will come from the USA. So if Trump does go away early after not so many days, and a vile person creeps in and takes power, well then we might ask if the guy could be a king over that area or not. Instead you are out in left field, stuck in the past thousands of years ago and not engaging in serious discussion

This verse is describing the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD:

No. Jesus did not return after that and all his people were not delivered then. Gong!

Those that understood Daniel instructed many to leave Jerusalem. The 'time of the end' is the end of the 70 weeks prophecy, i.e., 70AD:

Some partial fulfillment millennia ago is basically irrelevant to the prophesy of the end.

It is well known amongst scholars that the 'desire of women' was to give birth to the Messiah. Obviously, many women at the time of King Herod wanted to give birth to Jesus:

It is also know that men who give themselves over to lusting after other men lose the desire of women. Whatever the fulfillment of that phrase may be, we do not know yet. Sorry you do not get to shoehorn the meaning of the phrase to fit your future prophesy ignoring little delusion.

King Herod tried to kill Jesus, remember? He fulfilled the prophecy perfectly. It is finished. Why not appreciate the beauty of what was foretold so many years before? Are you trying to erase all that history from the Bible like the others posting here?

Look:



God of Forces. Think Romans, during the Herod dynasty duh. This is too easy! Why is everyone here trying to delete Jesus from Scripture? Crazy.

Name the verse in Dan 11 that says someone would try to kill Jesus in the end??

 

[dad]

Ecclesiastes
1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

The future is new. The tribulation will be different also. Totally. Unlike any other time. Now as far as context goes, the verse you cite is great, and about how generally what people think is new has gone on before. Not applicable to prophesy! For example, Jesus born in Bethlehem to a virgin was NEW!

 

[dad]

The end times kicks in - in Daniel 11:36, speaking about the beast-kng of Revelation 13, worshiped, Revelation 13:8.

35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

The verses right before that say this


34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
Daniel 11:35
And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed

That sounds like believers in the Tribulation. If so then the final leader is there already!

 

[Exegesis]

What verse in Dan 11 talks about the crucifixion?

This for starters:

Daniel 11:22 - "And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant."

The 'Prince of the Covenant' is Jesus, who shall be 'broken', i.e., crucified.

And of course, we have this verse:

Daniel 11:31 - "And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate."

The Sanctuary of Strength is Jesus. The daily sacrifice was no longer accepted after the Crucifixion. The 'Abomination that Maketh Desolate' was the Crucifixion.

 

[Exegesis]

No The ruler in the end period possessed by Satan that jesus will kill and that causes all the world to worship him etc etc was not silly old little Herod is tiny little Israel.

What are you even talking about?

The return of Christ was not 'the crucifixion'

Huh? There is no 'return of Christ' in Daniel 11.

Actually not every one written in the book was delivered then.

Daniel 12:1
"At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book

Of course they were delivered. The work of the Cross is finished. That is when Salvation became available to all that were written since the foundation of the world.

Michael stood up many times in Daniel. Look at the context. Michael stands up again and again. He doesn't stand up once in the future and sits and plays video games for eternity.

You would need to know the difference between prophesy and history. Conflating the two shows you don't

Speak for yourself. You have proven nothing. I have given plenty of proof.

No, After Caesar died no vile person took over in a time when Michael stood up and we were all delivered etc etc.

The vile person is Herod who was installed by Rome. You believe that a person who kills many children in order to kill the Messiah is 'silly'?

You should not marginalize something as important as that.

The verse in Dan 11 about a crucifixion?? Ha

What are you even talking about?

Study the word context.

Whatever. It is obvious you are not here to learn or be corrected.

Nor was anyone like the false prophet, antichrist, etc etc there in the past. Forgrt Trump, you need to learn to make the jump! The jump out of the past and into the thing the prophesy totally and clearly set in the end of days is about. Until you do, you will continue to demonstrate a gross lack of understanding.

Rubbish comment with no proof, facts or verses backing up anything you say.

Sorry you do not get to shoehorn the meaning of the phrase to fit your future prophesy ignoring little delusion.

Delusion?

How do you get 'lusting after men' from this verse?

Daniel 11:37 - New Living Translation - "He will have no respect for the gods of his ancestors, or for the god loved by women, or for any other god, for he will boast that he is greater than them all."

There is absolutely no allusion to what you claim, not even close. You have a lot of nerve using that word against me. I think we are done here.

Name the verse in Dan 11 that says someone would try to kill Jesus in the end??

I already gave the verses. Again, it is clear your agenda is to erase Jesus from the Old Testament and twist scripture to suit your false dogma. I am leaving this thread. Good luck.

 

[Marty fox]

Not really. Try and argue and see why

Yes he was a shadow of things to come and obviously could not have been in the time this prophesy is about. If you don't believe me, believe the angle that told us precisely when this time was.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book

That did not happen yet

So what does the bible actually say about or what the antichrist is?

There are only four verses in the bible that mention antichrist

 

[Douggg]

If you are referring to Herod and his dynasty, then technically, yes. They were all the spirit of Antichrist.



The above verse is describing the Crucifixion.

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Exegesis, did you make the chart or did you copy and paste it from an online source ?

 

[Randy Kluth]

There was a king of the south, but that would not be the same king of the south of the end time. There was an antigod king but he was not the same person as the final king etc. The time the prophesy is set in is the end time as dan 12:1 clearly says.

The end times began when Jesus went to the cross. That is when Israel atomized as a nation, and the time when people could begin to get their lives right with respect to Eternal Life. The next big thing on the calendar is Eternal Judgment. So, we have the NT period to get things right before this final judgment.

The king of the south is regularly recognized by noted scholars to be the ancient King of Egypt. He is treated as such throughout Dan 11.

As I said, Dan 11 ends with Antiochus 4, and leads naturally to the rise of the 4th Kingdom of Dan 7--Rome. Rome is where Michael had to arise to protect Israel, knowing what Rome would do to Israel and the need there was to preserve the Jews until the final judgment. In view of the fact Rome destroyed the Jewish Temple worship and their nation it is clear that is the "end times" that Daniel is talking about.

The fact the 70 AD event encompasses the entire NT period, leading to Christ's return and the resurrection is what explains how all of this is wrapped up in a few sentences in Dan 12. It makes perfect sense to me the way I've presented it.

Your assumption that this "endtimes period" must be identified solely with Christ's Coming and the Resurrection is not warranted. The "Great Tribulation" is clearly defined in Luke 21 as a Jewish Punishment beginning with a Roman Army surrounding Jerusalem in 70 AD and ending with the Return of Messiah.

Jesus spoke of that time of trouble

Matthew 24:21
For the trouble at that time will be far more terrible than any there has ever been, from the beginning of the world to this very day. Nor will there ever be anything like it again.

As I said, what makes this the worst punishment in the history of the Jewish People is its length of time, combined with the series of events that sometimes threaten the very existence of the Jewish People. The *Jewish Diaspora* encompasses the entire NT era and includes Russian pogroms, the Nazi Holocuast, and even attempts by Israel's neighbors to exterminate Israel today. It includes the entire NT period and therefore is the longest, and worst, punishment in the history of the Jewish People.

No, it lasts 42 months. The clock ran out on your schedule. It also did not end with Jesus returning immediately after!!

I gave you my view.

 

[dad]

This for starters:



The 'Prince of the Covenant' is Jesus, who shall be 'broken', i.e., crucified.

And of course, we have this verse:



The Sanctuary of Strength is Jesus. The daily sacrifice was no longer accepted after the Crucifixion. The 'Abomination that Maketh Desolate' was the Crucifixion.

No one is going to place an abomination in Jesus and defile Him, Better redo your theory

 

[dad]

So what does the bible actually say about or what the antichrist is?

There are only four verses in the bible that mention antichrist

He is a king that lives in the end time and is known by certain traits and actions. So there is plenty.