Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Hobie

Well-Known Member
Jun 11, 2009
3,524
1,315
113
South Florida
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
So the question that presents itself, is why do Christians continue in sin...
 

Dan Clarkston

Well-Known Member
Dec 16, 2023
2,564
954
113
55
Denver Colorado
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
]James 1:13-15 (KJV): 13Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16Do not err, my beloved brethren.

This is speaking of what Jesus said in Mark 4:13-20.... lust is conceived when it ENTERS IN which is the point in which the desire to do evil becomes sinful behavior for that person because they have accepted the desires to do evil.

Those that reject the moving of the Holy Spirit obviously wouldn't understand disagree.gif




Not in the sense that you seem to be claiming.

Cessationists reject the moving of the Holy Spirit in modern times
because this is what their personal demon has led them to believe




In other words, you obvious did not understand what I had said in my post and only focused on the two-letter acronym "bs" for your rebuttal and so you confirmed what I had posted with your own form of "BS.".

Still got that un-godly potty mouth workin I see....

potty_mouth1.jpg





Being obedient to God is meaningless unless the desire to do otherwise is very real.

Jesus never once... allowed any desire to do evil ENTER IN to His mind... not once.

Some claim Jesus was desiring to do evil... which is an evil claim to make about Jesus and is one that come from doctrines of devils.




Sometimes you gotta call bullshit what it is.

Those who speak like this are of the devil.... the Holy Spirit never leads people to speak like this.




Satan didn't know that? Was he really that stupid? I don't think so.

satan's wisdom has been corrupted... he believes his own lies and thinks he can still win against the Lord in the end.

What's comical (in a sad way) is some folks thinking satan is smart compared to the Lord clueless-doh.gif

God set a trap for the devil and tricked him in to taking Jesus to the Cross. see 1 Corinthians 2:8-10




If that was so, then Christ would have been 'lustful', and that certainly wasn't the case..

It's sad that some think Jesus was a sinner... really sad.




Then what was the temptation? If there is no desire, then there can be no temptation.

The temptation was the devil presenting opportunity for Jesus to sin... and since Jesus had no desire to disobey the Father, He got a good laugh each time the devil came to try and get Jesus to sin.

Mature believers should also be getting a good laugh every time the devil tries to get them to sin too!
laughing22.gif Ha ha! Old devil think I'm falling for that... that''s hilarious!
 

Lambano

Well-Known Member
Jul 13, 2021
8,904
12,133
113
Island of Misfit Toys
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Those who speak like this are of the devil.... the Holy Spirit never leads people to speak like this.
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ. - Philippians 3:8

As many Biblical scholars have noted, the Greek word σκύβαλον (skubalon) Paul uses here could very accurately be translated into the harsher English word I used. The only difference is that one is arbitrarily considered socially acceptable and the other is arbitrarily considered socially unacceptable.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: mailmandan

mailmandan

Well-Known Member
Feb 24, 2020
5,489
5,925
113
The Midwest
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ. - Philippians 3:8

As many Biblical scholars have noted, the Greek word σκύβαλον (skubalon) Paul uses here could very accurately be translated into the harsher English word I used. The only difference is that one is arbitrarily considered socially acceptable and the other is arbitrarily considered socially unacceptable.
Yes, multiple translations do say dung, which primarily refers to animal or human excrement used metaphorically to convey the idea of worthlessness. So, saying BS (cow dung) is not exactly inaccurate. Don't mind Dan Clarkston. Everyone is of the devil to him.
 

JBO

Well-Known Member
Oct 20, 2023
1,849
416
83
86
Prescott, AZ
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Cessationists reject the moving of the Holy Spirit in modern times
That is not true. The gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38) is not the empowering Holy Spirit to work signs, wonders and miracles; rather it is the indwelling Holy Spirit, the helper and comforter promised to all who have been saved.
satan's wisdom has been corrupted... he believes his own lies and thinks he can still win against the Lord in the end.
If he believes it, then it may be wrong, but it is not a lie. And I doubt that he is so stupid to think that he can win against God. He is only trying to seduce as many as he can to thwart their acceptance of God as their savior.
It's sad that some think Jesus was a sinner... really sad.
I don't know anyone that thinks that.
The temptation was the devil presenting opportunity for Jesus to sin... and since Jesus had no desire to disobey the Father, He got a good laugh each time the devil came to try and get Jesus to sin.
I don't think Jesus thought it was funny. The scriptures make no such claim.
 
  • Like
Reactions: David Lamb

Dan Clarkston

Well-Known Member
Dec 16, 2023
2,564
954
113
55
Denver Colorado
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ. - Philippians 3:8

Dung is not a cuss world... it's like saying poo

You are using foul language and since God's Word says out of the abundance of one's hear the mouth speaks... now we know what you are full of!

Go ahead and use that cuss word you used earlier in front of some man's small children and see what happens... you know it's demonic to speak this way

Maybe someday you'll get the Spirit of God on the inside and become one of His lead by the Spirit and be delivered from filthy language and a filthy heart. amen-prayer.gif




That is not true. The gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38) is not the empowering Holy Spirit to work signs, wonders and miracles; rather it is the indwelling Holy Spirit, the helper and comforter promised to all who have been saved.

It doesn't mean that for you obviously . . . according to your faith it's done unto you so it's no wonder you have no power to do nuthin. Here's what Jesus said about it:

Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.



I don't know anyone that thinks that.

There are some here claiming Jesus desired to do evil... if He did, then that is sinful behavior according to Jesus' own teachings.



I don't think Jesus thought it was funny. The scriptures make no such claim.

Why wouldn't he?

Jesus was steadfast in His commitment to please the Father and satan thought he was going to con Jesus in to doing sin like he conned Adam in to doing sin.... that's hilarious cause the devil didn't know Who he was dealing with!

Psalm 37:13
the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he sees that his day is coming

Psalm 2:4
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.