DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?

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My goal is to share rightly dividing the Bible. Thinking that the twelve preached the same gospel as Paul, that there is one gospel only , will lead to lack of assurance and mixing up the gospel.

As far as preaching the cross..................[1Co 1:18 KJV] 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
"The cross"

A non negotiable component of the gospel.
"The cross" = the sinless perfect sacrifice.

How unfortunate your deal has no follow through.
No empty bomb.
No blood
No resurrection.
Nor even a resurrected savior
No born again.


...ALL MISSING AND OFF THE TABLE, WITH NO INCLUSION.
With some ridiculous obsession with smearing James, John, Peter, and Jesus.

PATHETIC.
 

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"The cross"

A non negotiable component of the gospel.
"The cross" = the sinless perfect sacrifice.

How unfortunate your deal has no follow through.
No empty bomb.
No blood
No resurrection.
Nor even a resurrected savior
No born again.


...ALL MISSING AND OFF THE TABLE, WITH NO INCLUSION.
With some ridiculous obsession with smearing James, John, Peter, and Jesus.

PATHETIC.

@Doug
...and a TOTAL FAILURE TO RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF GOD.

APPALLING FAILURE.

IT HAS BECOME A SPIRIT.
ACTUALLY BY TAMPERING WITH THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS....YOU ARE OPERATING IN A ANTICHRIST SPIRIT.
 
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May I ask why you say this

Because Doug you have been here for years (certainly much longer than I have) and anyone of us can go back and read the multitudes of threads you have opened and these angles you try to push through them. And what I had once thought was an honestly mistaken having enjoyed some back and forths with you more than a time or two (under Verily) and your cordial way when we did it always took this same weird turn over and over again. And (personally) I used to love when you would post because you used so many scriptures and I could occupy myself in them and observe how you would take them where you would in your reasonings, and what you excluded, what you could not see, and might not work into them and add to your observations, and you seemed very receptive too but its like you keep jumping back into this same scripted wagon you get onto again and agan. I can't really say much more than that, and over that long a period of time I have changed my mind toward you in this doing havng removed the benefit of the doubt I had toward you in these things. Because I do believe people can be wrong, and be sincerely so, even as I can be. None of us are above that. So I come to the realization (as slowly as I have come to it, and whether I am right or wrong myself in it) that this might be the case here with you is all I am saying. I always prefer the benefit of the doubt be there, and not be removed from anyone in me. You used to keep me occupied on "the mechanics" (so to speak) of your handlings of the words of God (even when I felt you were incorrect in your use of the same). Regardless, I actually prefer that kind of conversation (as far as back and forths go in the scriptures alone). And you made that easier, because you were often very cordial even when we might have disagreed (which was often) but I still appreciated that about you (and not that it should be important you) but I really felt that somewhere deep down you have to be sincere in your contentions, but I simply do not feel that way any longer (Since you have asked me about this).
 

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DO YOU THINK PETER AND THE APOSTLES PREACHED THE CROSS?​

'The Cross' is a metaphor for a self giving, other centred, self sacrificing reality shared by the Apostles including Peter, as they realised who this Jesus they hung around with for 3.5 years ....and continue to hang with, is.
 

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Because Doug you have been here for years (certainly much longer than I have) and anyone of us can go back and read the multitudes of threads you have opened and these angles you try to push through them. And what I had once thought was an honestly mistaken having enjoyed some back and forths with you more than a time or two (under Verily) and your cordial way when we did it always took this same weird turn over and over again. And (personally) I used to love when you would post because you used so many scriptures and I could occupy myself in them and observe how you would take them where you would in your reasonings, and what you excluded, what you could not see, and might not work into them and add to your observations, and you seemed very receptive too but its like you keep jumping back into this same scripted wagon you get onto again and agan. I can't really say much more than that, and over that long a period of time I have changed my mind toward you in this doing havng removed the benefit of the doubt I had toward you in these things. Because I do believe people can be wrong, and be sincerely so, even as I can be. None of us are above that. So I come to the realization (as slowly as I have come to it, and whether I am right or wrong myself in it) that this might be the case here with you is all I am saying. I always prefer the benefit of the doubt be there, and not be removed from anyone in me. You used to keep me occupied on "the mechanics" (so to speak) of your handlings of the words of God (even when I felt you were incorrect in your use of the same). Regardless, I actually prefer that kind of conversation (as far as back and forths go in the scriptures alone). And you made that easier, because you were often very cordial even when we might have disagreed (which was often) but I still appreciated that about you (and not that it should be important you) but I really felt that somewhere deep down you have to be sincere in your contentions, but I simply do not feel that way any longer (Since you have asked me about this).
Thanks for responding
I guess what you are saying is I keep repeating the same teaching which is due to the fact that this is what I believe/ this is all I can teach/ others make the same arguments over and over
I am glad to entertain discussions from anyone
Feel free to open a discussion whenever you care to