Examining Ourselves In the Faith

[Pariah]

As per this forum, although opened to others honestly seeking questions, I would like to ask all those that are "without" as in not of the faith, to not post in this thread. This is for those of the faith to examine ourselves in the faith so that we may remind ourselves so as to be found abiding in Him in His grace. May the Lord help us do this. Amen.1 Corinthians 5: 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. I know I just joined and the forum is opened to outsiders, by the grace of God, hope to have a likeminded fellowship going. I can only hope for whatever this thread be worth, the Lord would provide whatever growth we may each need in our walk with Him and whatever prunings that hinders that walk of faith... to be seperate from the world.To clear the tares...No catholicism. :naughty:No mentioning of the word sacrament nor calling communion "holy".No performing communion by saying "we come into His presence today..."Communion is to be done in remembrance of Him onlyNo honoring Mary.No more reciting creeds which all have been made from ecumenical format There is not another baptism of the Holy Spirit as evident with tongues.No continual filling of the Spirit as if you leak No slain in the SpiritNo being drunk in the SpiritNo hungering for more of God No more receiving fire or power in physical manifestation of receiving itNo seeking to feel His Presence in the worship place No singing unscriptural hymnals that worships the Holy Spirit or addresses the Holy Spirit to come or to fall on them No praying to the Holy Spirit There is no commitment of man to Christ nor the commitment of man to follow Christ.No Promise KeepersNo boast of man in the fleshNo identity with the works of the Law No practising or sowing to the works of the flesh Anymore dead works that deny Him by words and deeds? --------------------------------------------------------------By this, our walk of faith with Jesus is more on trusting Him to do His work in us and through us as we sow to the Spirit as opposed to sowing to the flesh. We trust Him as Our Good Shepherd to lead us and guide us in the way we ought to go as we trust Him in having saved us and sealed us as His so that we may rest in Him. :study:This is His Covenant to us. The world cannot see that unless we decrease in bearing testimony of ourselves or anything else so that they may see our faith in Him and all His promises to us.... thus the just shall live by faith. :sign:All those like-minded in Christ, feel free to post to continue the edification.

 

[Tyrel]

You are lost.

You can't expect to discuss with Christians, but only include in the circle of discussion those who agree with your various views.People disagree on things. I am absolutely disgusted at your post, but I have learnt that I must respect it, and respect it I do. I imagine you to be a devout, all while fundamentalist, Christian, who desires sound teaching within the church. You show, with the passage in Corinthians quoted, that Christians must rebuke those who are living in err, so as to sober them up, and we must not fellowship with them as though to ignore the issue which plagues them. You, however, have gone beyond that, defining not now the immoral within Christianity, who need to be rebuked for their own good, but rather, now, you have turned to excluding all those who have views contesting what you have outlined.The Church, all while I feel this is an oversimplification, is not a building, but it is the people. Do the church always agree? No, we did not, we do not, and probably will not. Is that a bad thing? No, not necessarily. We complement each other by contributing original thought and sharing with one another, thus we learn from one another, and regardless of where we stand originally on any particular topic, we spur each other on towards truth... or at least, this is the Ideal.Do you not see that you are hindering this Ideal by excluding all those whose views do not align with yours?Please, do not presume yourself to know the truth beyond contest. The second we stop questioning what we believe, {reaffirming what seems true thus reinforcing it, or falsifying what is false, thus growing}, is the second we agree to stop learning.Please, I ask you for an open mind, and accepting heart. An open mind does not mean you have to agree, nor does an accepting heart mean you have to understand where I come from, as paradigms are infamously difficult to discern. However, I ask that you be open to hearing other opinions and honestly considering their validity and veracity, making your beliefs subject to scrutiny.If we know the answer before debating, then we leave the debate without allowing for correction. If we only agree to fellowship with those who agree with us, we will never find where we are in err. In Hope,~ Tyrel

 

[Pariah]

Hi Tyrel,Forgot what 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 says? How do you apply that to fellowship in your church? Do you even practise excommunication as Jesus taught?Discussing is one thing. Going over our faith is another. In all the discussions, there is no reproof. It is just agree to disagree, but that is not fellowship. No kicking out. No excommunication. Just this is what I believe and why, and I see what you believe and why, but that is not fellowship. I wanted to see if fellowship could be possible in this thread where like-minded believers join in on by posting in here. I'd really thought Denver, kriss, superjag, and a few others would be here at least. No biggee, since I am admitting to the futility of this thread.This was a call for those in the faith away from the tares listed. If no one posts other than yours, well, pretty much declares that fellowship can never really be had on the internet, can there? If no excommunication can be done, then where is the keeping of the faith? I wasn't expecting an excommunication to be had on this thread since no one can kick anyone out of a "thread". I had hoped the Lord would draw all like-minded believers to post in this thread. Apparently, my stance on the pre-tribulation rapture as judgment on the House of God first has me on the out even though I did not list that as being of the faith or being not of faith. That is a personal belief of a future event and thus is not contingent in regards to keeping the faith in Jesus Christ.Everything else that I have listed is to be considered then as deceitful doctrines of man as (save for catholicism for I have been made aware of the apostasy of it) I was knocked around by it, and no longer care to be by it. I shall not show partiality towards that list because it is not representative of our faith in Jesus Christ, but represent the will of man, of the world, or another spirit other than what we have received as promised for coming to Jesus.Every other threads are opened to those various discussions individually. This is on keeping the faith and announcing all the tares that those have posted elsewhere, has agreed upon.Apparently, the biggest tare is usually not noticed generally in the Protestant christian circle and that is those little leavens that leavens into the whole lump like commitments of men to Promise Keepers and hymnals honoring the Holy Spirit (when the indwelling Holy Spirit does not seek that honor, but for us to honor Jesus, thereby the Father which is of the faith) and that perspective of honoring the Holy Spirit in hymnals of "Him" coming and falling on them moves from songs to actual worship of the Holy Spirit coming and falling on believers when the Holy Spirit is already in them, thus departing from the faith.All of this is about keeping the faith by word and deed and thus those that agree to it and see other tares to mention that are not being discussed individually on the board without contradicting the previous tares are welcome to edify in the knowledge of Him so that we may find ourselves ready.But, it looks like this is an unpopular thread as it rains on people's testimonies and their boasts of their commitments to the Lord as well as those parading of the Holy Spirit as if the Bible instructed believers to do so, and thus, because of speaking in tongues, they have something more than other believers just because they moved away from their rest in Jesus for a sign, which are only for unbelievers and thus by doing so, became an adulterous generation as per the words of Jesus. But then, one can hope that those of faith, just didn't see this yet or had anything to add for "fellowship".But it was a long shot as your reply was off the fisticuffs, ignoring the premise of the verses I started out with as to the purpose of this thread. As I said.. long shot.So let it be known that there can be no real fellowship on the internet. One can meet others you agree with in the faith, but you really cannot tell if they are of faith when it is on that "topic" you agree with in regards to the faith. Thus was the purpose of this thread as it has failed fast. So be it.We are all visitors here, bumping into one another, ministering in an outreach fashion, but no real fellowshipping in regards to keeping the faith, simply because there is no excommunication to keep the faith on those that oppose themselves.So it was a futile idea that Lord could call those of faith in here to encourage one another in that faith away from the tares... since no excommunication can be had.Thus I shall leave this thread without deleting it as proof of my short-sightedness in bringing up threads. I can accept no fellowship. I can accept that by the grace of God, I am just sharing meat in due season. And it does not mean that those that did not reply, are not of faith. This thread was simply moot.