mailmandan
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These were rhetorical questions for DJT_47. You must not have caught my sarcasm or meant to address DJT_47. I believe that you and I are on the same page theologically in regard to Salvation and Sanctification.
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The Critical Text uses manuscripts that are quite old, there is 48% of the bible extant today that was around in the first 125 years. For example, the KJV's oldest NT manuscript is from the 9th century AD. It is quite late. Reason would dictate that manuscripts closer to the Originals would not have enough time to corrupt. We have copies of the Bible in 340 AD. These manuscripts were reviewed by the apostles to ensure their accuracy in the first century.
Older manuscripts are those Greek NT manuscripts that existed in the second century and before. The Sinaiticus and Vaticanus were discovered between 320 AD to 350 AD. For example, the oldest manuscript used in putting the KJV together was in the 9th century. The critical text is much older and closer to the originals than the MT. For this reason I said they were older.
The fact they are closer to the originals and have not been corrupted over time, they are called better.
There is a difference between continually and continuously. The scripture 1John 1, infers infers that the blood of Christ continually cleanses us. We're saved from our past sins at the time of our immersion into Christ, but that saving does not automatically, continously, save us going forward, but rather it's continually as is implied by scripture. Confession of your sins and prayer is necessary as also stated in James.
mailmandan
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1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. ALL sin. Not merely past sins. Walking in the light is 'descriptive' of children of God in contrast with 1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. Walking in darkness is 'descriptive' of children of the devil. *Also see (1 John 2:9-11; 1 John 3:10). Only children of God are in the light (Acts 26:18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; 1 Thessalonians 5:4)
In regard to 1 John 1:9, notice that - "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" is in contrast to - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (1 John 1:8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:10)
In regard to James 5:15, in context, James is discussing sickness, anointing, prayer of faith, confession and healing. James writes and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him. Both the conditional “if” and the use of future tense “will be forgiven” may scare certain folks (particularly works-salvationists) into thinking that the believer’s ultimate forgiveness from God is still in question and is hanging in the balance. James is simply reassuring his audience that if any sins are committed at a future date, they will be forgiven.
Some have abused this verse and teach that believers are not forgiven without ongoing confession (keep a specific inventory) of confessed sins and if we forget a sin we are toast! However, the confession in James 5 is to other people, not to God. And our ultimate forgiveness is based on the finished work of Christ on the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 15:1-4) and not on verbalizing our struggles to other people. Believers are forgiven people past, present, and future. (Acts 13:38-39; Colossians 2:13; Hebrews 10:10,14)
So you have an automatic free pass of salvation going forward no matter what, right? Is that your belief, kinda like the Biden pardons for his family for future illegal things they may do; they're automatically pardoned in advance, eh? So, would the future backside be pardoned, one that was a "Christian", that would denounce Christ at some future point in time, maybe turning to a false religion like Islam? You can believe that silliness if you like, but it makes no sense and ain't gonna happen.
mailmandan
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Free pass no matter what? Believers are new creations in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) and have been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever. (1 Peter 1:23) We have been changed. Praise God! Now one should not underestimate the power of the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18-21) and overestimate man's own goodness. (Ecclesiastes 7:30; Romans 3:23; 6:23)
You seem to have more faith in self preservation than you do in God's preservation. (Psalm 37:28; 1 Peter 1:5; Jude 1:1) A genuine Christian would not denounce Christ and turn to Islam. There are genuine Christians and there are "nominal" or pseudo-Christians. Don't get them confused. If you believe that salvation is obtained by works, then you will naturally believe that it is maintained by works as well.
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