Glorify means to Highly Revere.
Men Revere / Glorify the Lord God…
God inturn glorifies such men, calling them “saints”.
Glory to God,
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For WHAT purpose Does the Lord Descend FROM High Heavens TO lower Heavens Clouds?
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Glorify means to Highly Revere.
Men Revere / Glorify the Lord God…
God inturn glorifies such men, calling them “saints”.
Glory to God,
Taken
jeffweeder
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Glorified in this case means to have a body like his glorious body. When he appears, we shall be like him for we shall see him as he is.
Surely, you do not deny this.......
Surely no need to wonder as I have plainly said… The saved are raised up glorified.
That's easy...
**Purpose:** At the time on Earth appointed by the Father, Yeshua’s mission is to retrieve and gather his people into God’s Kingdom, leaving the damned behind on Earth. This is a permanent mission of rescue and reunion.
**Method:** Today, Yeshua appears in a spirit-filled vessel or body, also known as a glorified body. To accomplish his purpose, he and his angelic “army” must pass through a portal—a passage or tunnel—into an opening in the heavens that connects to the third heaven at a particular place in the planet’s upper atmosphere.
At that time, his people, both those who have died and those still alive, are united for the first time in glorified bodies and spirits, in a form like Yeshua’s.
At his command, they rise vertically to the portal’s entrance and cross its threshold together into God’s Kingdom, moving from physical time into the timeless spiritual realm.
Agree.
Disagree. The left are uncommitted mortals… which does include …many who are Israel and Believers.
Agree their being raised “glorified” is permanent.
But being in heaven? Permanent then? No.
They return to Earth with Christ Jesus.
Yes.
No.
Later.
Sketchy.
Thanks…
Glory to God,
Taken
Stuck in an archaic and possibly ignorant mindset? Depending on religious types may have drilled into your mind? To each his own then..
I mean it's not possible to actually step on and then walk in a physical way when you are a spirit vessel and especially because the earth is literally being/ is already destroyed (2 Peter - the Day of the lord).
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Retract my thanks due to your snarky response.
Seems to you “the mind” holds Value in understanding Scripture…which is direct Contrast to Scripture, and faulty in a conversation about Spiritual things.
Again, irrelevant.
A quickened spirit filled and spirit inwelt Vessel… is Armor Prepared to the power of Demons and foolish humans.
Learning Gods Order and Way provided Every human who seeks, can discover the Lord Gods step by step Order, Way, Method… for assured security “with” Him.
FYI…
Rom 8:
[7] … the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Glory to God,
Taken
He Appears several times… long Before to exact Vengence.
Vengeance is not disputed…
Your Order and Way is disputed.
No.
I will return With Him… in my glorified body, that humans on earth can NOT see.
Seems you do not understand…”you, we, us, our”… in scripture ONLY Applies …. When “you ARE the you, we, us, our persons being spoken to.
Are you….->
1 Pet 1: [1] Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
?
I’m not.
Well, I was not expecting a reaction as yours...
Jesus’ declaration in John 18:36 that His kingdom is "not of this world" primarily emphasizes the divine origin and spiritual nature of His reign into the future, as it will never be an earthly manifestation as his Body or people with be 'outer space' in another realm. He never implied or suggested that his Kingdom with be present on this physical earth at its consummation.
While the kingdom does not originate from human political structures or rely on earthly military force, it is active today in the present through the transformation of believers' hearts and minds. The Kingdom 'mountain of Daniel' is still growing larger and larger today, and will some reach its maximum growth.
The Kingdom is described as everlasting and will ultimately be fully realized in the heavenly realm and not in the physical universe. There is no hint in Yeshua's words that his Kingdom will be on a remade physical earth in this physical realm, with new generations of human beings that would still have a 'fallen' human nature. The time for that would have past already.
Ditto.
It isn’t. But then then much of Scripture has not YET come to pass.
Not to over look… His 1,000 year reign while mortals still inhabit the Earth.
Maybe you have pages missin from your Bible version.
Hum.
Oh no… no Earth… Bummer.
Sure makes a new Earth and no Earth mysterious.
Who said it was?
Human Belief always begins with a human with a fallen Nature…
You are missing the Order and Way, according to God
jeffweeder
Well-Known Member
It would be nice if you can reference the verses.
Regardless, Paul tells us in 2thess 1 that when he does come in vengeance, we shall all be glorified ON THAT DAY.
2Thess 1
This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering.
6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.
What? Not what the scripture implies.
If you happen to be dead, your soul is with him when comes. Then your body will be raised and glorified along with the living
13 Now we do not want you to be uninformed, believers, about those who are asleep [in death], so that you will not grieve [for them] as the others do who have no hope [beyond this present life]. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again [as in fact He did], even so God will bring with Him those [believers] who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death].
16 For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel and with the [blast of the] trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
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amigo de christo
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a day i have longed for , for years . Amen .
But speaking of that day , aint one ecumeincal inclusivain going up but rather DOWN on that day .
FOr any who preaches anotehr gospel calls GOD a liar . But oh yes my friend the coming of the glorious Lord does draw nigh .
Flying up will be a real lovely day .
Unseen…
John 14:
[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Seen and Unseen.
1 Thes 4:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Seen and Unseen
Rev 14:
[1] And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
Seen
Rev 14:
[14] And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Seen and unseen
Rev 19:
[11] And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Seen
Rev 19:
[16] And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Seen
Rev 20:
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Seen
Rev 20:
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Seen
Rev 20:
[11] And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
[12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Seen
Rev 21:
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Seen
Rev 22:
[3] And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
[4] And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
“WE” who?
You…considered, you relieved, those, you who have believed…
…
Does that apply to “you” NOT mentioned…?
The “you” who have already testified AND laid down their life for Him?
… uh no.
Scripture is ALL True…Period
All Scriptures DO NOT ALL apply to all men.
Fact is…I already laid down my bodily Life unto Death…
and received Gods Gift of “soul” Salvation, via Christ…
and received Gods Gift of “spirit” Quickening,
via the Lamb…
and presently Live “IN” CHRIST the Lord Jesus’ “Risen Body”…
Until “the day”…
The Lord Descends
FROM the Heavens Above the Heavens…
TO
HIS Fathers Kingdom…/The Lower Heavens (clouds /Air)…
AND
CALLS me UP OFF the Earth…
IN
My own Glorfied, BODY…
TO
MEET HIM face to face (no vail)
AND
BE officially Adjoined
WITH HIM
BEFORE and with the Blessing
Of His Father (and mine)….God.
BECAUSE…”I prepared FOR THAT Day”
* My heartful testimony TO Him of my Belief was/ IS True…
* I already laid down my bodily LIFE unto Him
* AND thus ON the Day (per A Jewish Tradition of Pre and Post Wed-lock)…
* The Agreement is Made between the brides and grooms fathers.
* The Bride Prepares herself.
* The Groom prepares a home for His Bride.
* The Grooms servant Signals the Bride to Leave her fathers house, go to the Grooms Fathers house…prepared to WED her Groom IN the presence and Blessing of the Grooms Father.
* And THEN… GO with her Husband TO His House He has Prepared For Him and His Bride…
TO Be together Forever.
So Giving “ME” Scriptures, for … “THOSE” to consider, find relief, who believed without Commitment…
Has NO application or effect on me.
My Raising is called the Rapture…
I am already Prepared… and simply Wait for my Groom. To Finish “His” Agreements, with ALL of His Brides in “THEIR own stages of Deciding and Preparations.”
Not applicable TO ME, for that which “I” and “My Lord” has Already DONE.
Not news.
Glory to God,
Taken
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