God is not mad, angry, with you.

[MatthewG]

In the narrative in the Bible it pertains to the nation of Israel mainly. The Bible was never written to you, or for you, even never written to your country. No where in scripture do you see this.

“And every single generation after this must keep all of these things proclaimed in the Bible and maintain the church like the Bible states”

If you could show me something like this I would disregard my own personal faith of Jesus having returned in 70Ad.

God is not mad at you.
God is not angry at you.

God sent his son for a specific reason, it was firstly to deal with the nation of Israel that started going down the slope of not having care for God. Gods own chosen nation of Israel had the Son of God Killed. After this period of time, with Jesus had resurrected.

Jesus apostles went out and wrote letters even, if you read 1 Thessalonians all the way through which can take 30 minutes: you will see how the apostle Paul encouraged the audience there to continue hold on to faith and wait for his return. Even while they were still alive. The point of all of this was that when Jesus returns to gather the pure blameless bride. And the temple was destroyed. The Jewish known world their heaven and earth, was wiped away.

Why?

For the Kingdom of Heavenly Jerusalem to be established upon the earth through believers who would become part of the kingdom of the heavenly Jerusalem while walking around on the earth. To know if you led by the spirt are a child of God, you are loved by God and God cares for you, you have communication with God and seek him out and pray. Having love for God and others.

God is not angry with you.. when you mess up and make mistakes cause we all do. God is a good God who desires to help you, and help you by the Son of God who lives with in you as you walk in your life on earth while still being much a part of the heavenly Kingdom.

Be encouraged to read your Bible, friend!

 

[MatthewG]

Did you know that God is not mad or angry with you?

 

[EddieRamos]

Did you know that God is not mad or angry with you?

It depends if you are truly saved or not. If you are truly saved then the wrath of God is no longer upon you, but if you are still in your sins (meaning unsaved, which would make you wicked) then yes indeed, God is extremely angry with you.

Psalms 7:11 (KJV)
God judgeth the righteous,
and God is angry with the wicked every day.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello to @EddieRamos

I believe in context the wrath of God was towards the nation of Israel for killing Jesus Christ: His wrath was poured out in 70ad when Jesus returned for the bride. He isn’t angry at human beings. He might sometimes chasten those he loves though. (Hebrews 12:6)

Why is this translation so different?

God is a righteous judge, And He is not angry at all times. (young’s literal translation)

Literal Standard Version
God [is] judging right, And He is not angry at all times.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[EddieRamos]

Hello to @EddieRamos

I believe in context the wrath of God was towards the nation of Israel for killing Jesus Christ: His wrath was poured out in 70ad when Jesus returned for the bride. He isn’t angry at human beings. He might sometimes chasten those he loves though. (Hebrews 12:6)

Why is this translation so different?

God is a righteous judge, And He is not angry at all times. (young’s literal translation)

Literal Standard Version
God [is] judging right, And He is not angry at all times.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

Hello Matt, a very important principle to understand is that no translation is inspired, they are all merely translations of the inspired Word of God which is the original Hebrew and Greek. With that said, all we have to do to determine which translation has translated Psalm 7:11 faithfully. The original Hebrew does not contain the word “wicked” in the text, but it does describe God as being angry everyday and the immediate context teaches us that the wicked are certainly the ones in view. There is no part of the word “angry” that is negated in this verse, so I’m not sure why the other translations changed it altogether, other than this is how they felt it should read.

Also, 70 AD is not when Christ returned for his bride, else there would be no true believers left in this world, as the bride of Christ is made up of only the true children of God.

Ephesians 5:31-32 (KJV)
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

2 Corinthians 11:2 (KJV)
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

Also, the destruction of the temple in 70 AD was not a total destruction as anyone can see. Christ was very specific when he spoke of the destruction of the temple, but he was speaking in parables, as he always did.

Matthew 24:2 (KJV)
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Matthew 13:34 (KJV)
34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

The destruction of the temple signified the end of the age of the earthly church as they would come under the wrath of God.

 

[MatthewG]

Hello Eddie,

Cool. Though we don’t see the same (as far as I do believe Jesus has already returned).

I believe those who do wicked deeds with endure the right judgment from God. It happens all the time with people going to jail for doing crimes. God desires for them to come to Christ. Is it the wicked deeds he is angry at or is the human beings he is angry at would be my second question? What do you think about it? (with Jesus having paid for all the sin of all the wicked deeds of others - the only sin for an individual that would remain would be an unbelieving heart?)

I thank you for your insights,

In christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[EddieRamos]

Hello Eddie,

Cool. Though we don’t see the same (as far as I do believe Jesus has already returned).

I believe those who do wicked deeds with endure the right judgment from God. It happens all the time with people going to jail for doing crimes. God desires for them to come to Christ. Is it the wicked deeds he is angry at or is the human beings he is angry at would be my second question? What do you think about it? (with Jesus having paid for all the sin of all the wicked deeds of others - the only sin for an individual that would remain would be an unbelieving heart?)

I thank you for your insights,

In christ,
Matthew Gallagher

Hey Matt, let's see what scripture says.

Psalms 5:5-6 (KJV)
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing:
the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Because every person is conceived in sin, they are immediately found guilty before the righteous judge - God. At this point, unless God has saved them in the womb, they are under the wrath of God.

Ephesians 2:3-5 (KJV) 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved.

So, all were children of wrath because all were conceived in sin. But rather than God condemning everyone to death for our sins, he chose to redeem some from this penalty. Those individuals whose sins were borne by Christ are called the elect. Christ paid for their sins in eternity past and applied his atonement at different points in each of their lives, this bringing them to salvation.

But the rest of the world, which is the majority of the world, Christ did not bare their sins and so they have to pay for their own sins by their own death, as the law demands payment.

This is why God tells us about twin brothers made from the same parents, yet, one was loved and the other hated. These 2 children represent two types of people. Jacob represents all the elect of God who were loved by God and thus had Christ pay for their sins. Esau represents the rest of the world whose sins were not placed upon Christ and so they have to pay for their own sins.

Genesis 25:23 (KJV) 23 And the LORD said unto her,
Two nations are in thy womb,
And two manner of people shall be
separated from thy bowels;
and the one people shall be stronger
than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Romans 9:11-13 (KJV) 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. 12 -- It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Notice it's always the sin cursed individual that is hated by God, not just the sin. But to be loved represents atonement made by Christ and to be hated means that you pay for your own sins. Thus, God's election program is what determined whether or not an individual was chosen for salvation, and his decision was based merely on his good pleasure.

Ephesians 1:5 (KJV) 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

So, John 3:16 needs to be viewed in light of the whole Bible, rather than assign God's love to every single person in the world, the Bible is clear that Esau was not loved, he was hated. The Bible is also clear that the workers of iniquity are hated. Thus must all be taken into account if we are to properly understand John 3:16. But when we do take it all into account, we can see that it was the elect (his own lost sheep) that were in the world, that God loved and died for.

John 13:1 (KJV)
1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

1 John 4:11 (KJV) 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

 

[Robert Gwin]

In the narrative in the Bible it pertains to the nation of Israel mainly. The Bible was never written to you, or for you, even never written to your country. No where in scripture do you see this.

“And every single generation after this must keep all of these things proclaimed in the Bible and maintain the church like the Bible states”

If you could show me something like this I would disregard my own personal faith of Jesus having returned in 70Ad.

God is not mad at you.
God is not angry at you.

God sent his son for a specific reason, it was firstly to deal with the nation of Israel that started going down the slope of not having care for God. Gods own chosen nation of Israel had the Son of God Killed. After this period of time, with Jesus had resurrected.

Jesus apostles went out and wrote letters even, if you read 1 Thessalonians all the way through which can take 30 minutes: you will see how the apostle Paul encouraged the audience there to continue hold on to faith and wait for his return. Even while they were still alive. The point of all of this was that when Jesus returns to gather the pure blameless bride. And the temple was destroyed. The Jewish known world their heaven and earth, was wiped away.

Why?

For the Kingdom of Heavenly Jerusalem to be established upon the earth through believers who would become part of the kingdom of the heavenly Jerusalem while walking around on the earth. To know if you led by the spirt are a child of God, you are loved by God and God cares for you, you have communication with God and seek him out and pray. Having love for God and others.

God is not angry with you.. when you mess up and make mistakes cause we all do. God is a good God who desires to help you, and help you by the Son of God who lives with in you as you walk in your life on earth while still being much a part of the heavenly Kingdom.

Be encouraged to read your Bible, friend!

Very true Matt, in fact 2 Pet 3:9

 

[MatthewG]

2 Peter 3:9


The Lord desires none to perish amen. Robert

 

[MatthewG]

Hey Matt, let's see what scripture says.

Psalms 5:5-6 (KJV)
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing:
the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Because every person is conceived in sin, they are immediately found guilty before the righteous judge - God. At this point, unless God has saved them in the womb, they are under the wrath of God.

Ephesians 2:3-5 (KJV) 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved.

So, all were children of wrath because all were conceived in sin. But rather than God condemning everyone to death for our sins, he chose to redeem some from this penalty. Those individuals whose sins were borne by Christ are called the elect. Christ paid for their sins in eternity past and applied his atonement at different points in each of their lives, this bringing them to salvation.

But the rest of the world, which is the majority of the world, Christ did not bare their sins and so they have to pay for their own sins by their own death, as the law demands payment.

This is why God tells us about twin brothers made from the same parents, yet, one was loved and the other hated. These 2 children represent two types of people. Jacob represents all the elect of God who were loved by God and thus had Christ pay for their sins. Esau represents the rest of the world whose sins were not placed upon Christ and so they have to pay for their own sins.

Genesis 25:23 (KJV) 23 And the LORD said unto her,
Two nations are in thy womb,
And two manner of people shall be
separated from thy bowels;
and the one people shall be stronger
than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Romans 9:11-13 (KJV) 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. 12 -- It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Notice it's always the sin cursed individual that is hated by God, not just the sin. But to be loved represents atonement made by Christ and to be hated means that you pay for your own sins. Thus, God's election program is what determined whether or not an individual was chosen for salvation, and his decision was based merely on his good pleasure.

Ephesians 1:5 (KJV) 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

So, John 3:16 needs to be viewed in light of the whole Bible, rather than assign God's love to every single person in the world, the Bible is clear that Esau was not loved, he was hated. The Bible is also clear that the workers of iniquity are hated. Thus must all be taken into account if we are to properly understand John 3:16. But when we do take it all into account, we can see that it was the elect (his own lost sheep) that were in the world, that God loved and died for.

John 13:1 (KJV)
1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.

1 John 4:11 (KJV) 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

I could be wrong, you seem to have a calvinist approach to scripture, or sola scriptura approach. I disagree with both of these approaches. God bless you sir.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[farouk]

I could be wrong, you seem to have a calvinist approach to scripture, or sola scriptura approach. I disagree with both of these approaches. God bless you sir.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

Re. Sola Scriptura, the final appeal should indeed be Scripture, which is what Sola Scripture basically means. Romans 4.3: "What saith the scripture?"

 

[MatthewG]

The scripture should be kept in context, and not taken out of context though, Farouk.

That is why I believe that Sola Scriptura can be dangerous, especially for new Christians... When things are discombobulated and mixed up it causes a problem, and it also makes forth contradictions, and that is not healthy. They say that the scripture is the final - 'authority' however: There is no authority, but God's Authority (Governed by The Spirit of Christ, and the Holy Spirit in my view). I believe that the scripture should be taken in its fullness, and in its direct context, to get the biggest picture. So many people out there in this day in time that believe the Bible was written for them, and that they are to do certain things which were actually for the disciples to have done when Jesus had spoke to him and all of these things.

I simply would suggest that the Bible should be read, and it is useful, however the Holy Spirit should also be included. To avoid just direct, literal, fleshly application, that can cause burdens on other individuals, even misappropriation of the scripture itself.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[farouk]

The scripture should be kept in context, and not taken out of context though, Farouk.

That is why I believe that Sola Scriptura can be dangerous, especially for new Christians... When things are discombobulated and mixed up it causes a problem, and it also makes forth contradictions, and that is not healthy. They say that the scripture is the final - 'authority' however: There is no authority, but God's Authority (Governed by The Spirit of Christ, and the Holy Spirit in my view). I believe that the scripture should be taken in its fullness, and in its direct context, to get the biggest picture. So many people out there in this day in time that believe the Bible was written for them, and that they are to do certain things which were actually for the disciples to have done when Jesus had spoke to him and all of these things.

I simply would suggest that the Bible should be read, and it is useful, however the Holy Spirit should also be included. To avoid just direct, literal, fleshly application, that can cause burdens on other individuals, even misappropriation of the scripture itself.

In Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

The Holy Spirit Who inspired the Word, never contradicts or leads away from the Word. Indeed, His gracious work is necessary in understanding the Word, which is centred upon Christ.