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God Warnings for America

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Keira, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Keira

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    God gave the following warnings for America to a Christian prophet name Jonathan Hansen. He is the founder of World Ministries International. God told him that between 1998 and 2008 he should share the warnings.Warning for 1998 - 2008NOTE: 1998-2008 is not a time frame deadline for all to be fulfilled, but is the time to heavily focus on sharing the WARNING message for America.During 1998 Pastor Hansen spoke in 40 cities in 30 states about the condition and future of America. The following was in an advertisement in The Seattle Times on December 26, 1997 regarding the United States of America.* Stock Market Collapse * Nuclear Attack * Civil Unrest * Social Security Collapse * Natural disasters; tornadoes; tidal waves; the sea dying; 20 lb. hail stones; water poisoning; food shortages; red tides * Powerful Northwest Earthquake (article 1) (Newly Discovered Earthquake Zone in Seattle Area 2003) (Pacific Northwest Tectonic Plates Are Moving) (FEB 2008 Mega EQ could inflict major damage on Pacific NW) (APRIL 11, 2008 Swarm of Earthquakes Detected Off Oregon) (MARCH 4, 2008 Seattle Emergency management officials prepare for catastrophic EQ)On television Reverend Hansen warned concerning what was coming upon America and why. He read the Seattle Times advertisement then added the following items:* The 520 bridge will collapse (article 1) (article 2). (This is a 1-mile long floating bridge across Lake Washington from Seattle to Bellevue and Redmond where Microsoft and Nintendo America are located).* Mt. Rainier will erupt On several radio stations Rev. Hansen warned concerning what was coming upon America:* Nuclear, biological and chemical terrorism in different cities throughout America as well as several attacks. New York, Chicago, New Orleans, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, Los Angeles and Florida. In remote areas there will be biological, chemical and nuclear experimentation. In the Pacific Northwest and Casper, Wyoming there will be a nuclear incident. There will also be chemical, biological, nuclear terrorism, and/or attack on the U.S. throughout the United States.* In the Northwest, volcanic activity will occur.* Earthquakes across America.To avoid the above, there must be a mighty, genuine revival (repentance) as in Nineveh (Jonah 3:5-10). Or, a powerful spirit of prayer must arise that will result in the mercy and grace of God as Abraham interceded for Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18:23-33). There is hope! If we meet the conditions of God (II Chronicles 7:14), he will hear our call, forgive us and heal the land! If we do not meet the conditions, judgment will fall and all of the prophecies will come to pass.Ladies and Gentlemen, we the Church and people in America need to receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior in reality and practicality to avoid these events warned by the Lord from coming to pass. It is our sins that allow our enemies to hurt us. God bless America, and may America look to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior � 1995 World Ministries International
     
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    God gave the following warnings for America to a Christian prophet name Jonathan Hansen.....
    God gave us all of the prophets we need in Scripture, he does not need any more. Read the ones He gave us. I did not read any of this Jonathan guy's stuff, but if he is calling himself a "Prophet" don't be standing too close to him.
     
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    i think most people that read the bible and see the things in mans heart here in the u s a .can predict these things.2008 is almost over .but it seems reasonable that these things will happen soon..till me when a building falls around you ,and 10 of your loved ones is around.and one of you get very hurt some lost in the rubble .do you sit and pray ,or do you pray dig and bandage the wounded........please answer this the best you can
     
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    "The term prophet has several definitions and is based on issues of faith and belief. Loosely, a prophet is one of two things: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-prophet.htm1) He or she receives a direct message from the divine, which is meant to be communicated to others.2) He or she is able to somehow tap into divine knowledge and make predictions about the future of the world or about individuals."Several things are "red flags" for me concerning this individual.1) He's building an empire.2) He asks for "Donations".3) He titles himself as "Reverend".4) Professional pictures of himself.5) Calling for a revival.6) Shows no humility.These are signs of vanity and profit making devices. My discernment is pulling me to have nothing to do with this man as he does not fill the shoes. Cedarhart
     
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    i think most people that read the bible and see the things in mans heart here in the u s a .can predict these things.2008 is almost over .but it seems reasonable that these things will happen soon..till me when a building falls around you ,and 10 of your loved ones is around.and one of you get very hurt some lost in the rubble .do you sit and pray ,or do you pray dig and bandage the wounded??????........please answer this the best you can
    and till me why when the world celebrates xmas a known pagan day that has nothing to do with christ [that was changed in to something more to your aproval]. if the beast has a mark and would make it harder for you to give up then the tradition of xmas,because it is more important then the sun worship tradition....how would you say no even if you new what it was???????
     
  6. Keira

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    Let me make this point very very clear. God told Jonathan Hansen that between 1998-2008 he should issue the above warnings for America that he has given. The years 1998-2008 is not a deadline or time frame for all to be fulfilled at all, the years 1998-2008 is the time period where Jonathan Hansen must give those warnings. Do you understand?By the way Mr Hansen is a real prophet from God. He asks for donations because without donations he will be unable to spread the word effectively what God has given him. He has already shut down some radio programs because he does not have enough funds. You also say he is vain because he put his picture up, if he did not have his picture up how would be know how he looks? Then if we did not know how he looks we would dismiss him as trying to hide who he is because he is not really from God. This man is humble, I have no idea why you think he is vain, clearly you have not read what he has said and clearly you have not heard him speaking. He titles himself as Reverend because he is a Reverend, don't you call pastors pastors and teachers teachers? You say he is builkding an empire, what empire are you talking about? That is absolutely false? You say he is false because he is calling for revival, clearly you have no clue what a revival is. Revival is full scale repentence in a country by many people giving themselves and committing themselves to Jesus Christ.Tomwebster why do you think it is bad for someone to be a prophet. I call him a prophet because that is what he is, I have never heard him calling himself a prophet although if he called himself that he would not be lying. I personally call him that because God gives him warnings for nations, the Chuch (the body of Christ) etc and then he had to tell those people the warnings that God has for them. Prophets Tom exists today. Read the scriptures below:1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1 Corinthians 12 verse 30-31[30] Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?[31] But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way1Cor.14[1] Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.[2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[3] But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.[4] He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.[5] I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.[6] Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?[7] And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?[8] For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?Read the entire chapter of 1 Corinthians 12, 13 and 14.
     
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    Let me make this point very very clear. God told Jonathan Hansen that between 1998-2008 he should issue the above warnings for America that he has given. The years 1998-2008 is not a deadline or time frame for all to be fulfilled at all, the years 1998-2008 is the time period where Jonathan Hansen must give those warnings. Do you understand?By the way Mr Hansen is a real prophet from God. He asks for donations because without donations he will be unable to spread the word effectively what God has given him. He has already shut down some radio programs because he does not have enough funds. You also say he is vain because he put his picture up, if he did not have his picture up how would be know how he looks? Then if we did not know how he looks we would dismiss him as trying to hide who he is because he is not really from God. This man is humble, I have no idea why you think he is vain, clearly you have not read what he has said and clearly you have not heard him speaking. He titles himself as Reverend because he is a Reverend, don't you call pastors pastors and teachers teachers? You say he is builkding an empire, what empire are you talking about? That is absolutely false? You say he is false because he is calling for revival, clearly you have no clue what a revival is. Revival is full scale repentence in a country by many people giving themselves and committing themselves to Jesus Christ.Tomwebster why do you think it is bad for someone to be a prophet. I call him a prophet because that is what he is, I have never heard him calling himself a prophet although if he called himself that he would not be lying. I personally call him that because God gives him warnings for nations, the Chuch (the body of Christ) etc and then he had to tell those people the warnings that God has for them. Prophets Tom exists today. Read the scriptures below:1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1 Corinthians 12 verse 30-31[30] Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?[31] But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way1Cor.14[1] Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.[2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[3] But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.[4] He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.[5] I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.[6] Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?[7] And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?[8] For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?Read the entire chapter of 1 Corinthians 12, 13 and 14.
    tku ,would you ask him.i am serious not playing around about proverbs 30:25 ask him please what do we do when we can not buy or sell
     
  8. Christina

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    Let me make this point very very clear. God told Jonathan Hansen that between 1998-2008 he should issue the above warnings for America that he has given. The years 1998-2008 is not a deadline or time frame for all to be fulfilled at all, the years 1998-2008 is the time period where Jonathan Hansen must give those warnings. Do you understand?By the way Mr Hansen is a real prophet from God. He asks for donations because without donations he will be unable to spread the word effectively what God has given him. He has already shut down some radio programs because he does not have enough funds. You also say he is vain because he put his picture up, if he did not have his picture up how would be know how he looks? Then if we did not know how he looks we would dismiss him as trying to hide who he is because he is not really from God. This man is humble, I have no idea why you think he is vain, clearly you have not read what he has said and clearly you have not heard him speaking. He titles himself as Reverend because he is a Reverend, don't you call pastors pastors and teachers teachers? You say he is builkding an empire, what empire are you talking about? That is absolutely false? You say he is false because he is calling for revival, clearly you have no clue what a revival is. Revival is full scale repentence in a country by many people giving themselves and committing themselves to Jesus Christ.Tomwebster why do you think it is bad for someone to be a prophet. I call him a prophet because that is what he is, I have never heard him calling himself a prophet although if he called himself that he would not be lying. I personally call him that because God gives him warnings for nations, the Chuch (the body of Christ) etc and then he had to tell those people the warnings that God has for them. Prophets Tom exists today. Read the scriptures below:1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 1 Corinthians 12 verse 30-31[30] Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?[31] But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way1Cor.14[1] Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.[2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.[3] But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.[4] He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.[5] I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.[6] Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?[7] And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?[8] For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?Read the entire chapter of 1 Corinthians 12, 13 and 14.
    Trust me we know 1 cor. Anyone that speaks in an unknown tongue is not a prophet of God for one thing the Word unknown was not in the manuscripts but added by men tongues simply means languages of men, lastly the very sign it was from God was that it was understood by all who heard it ...God does waste time sending garble to men that can not be understood and compared to Gods Word ...that is how we test the fruit... While you are free to believe whatever you like ... We study scripture and Gods Word here not mens words ...no matter what they call themselfs ..
     
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    I am brand new to this forum and quite new in my walk with Christ but I was mislead for a short time by a dangerous false prophet and was inspired to write the following letter to the false prophet and his followers.Please do not misinterpret my reasons for posting here. It is not my intention to cause any unnecessary rifts but I would not want to see anyone mislead unnecessarily. God commands us to test everything according to scripture.Anyway, here's my letter....QUOTE
    Dear faithful of the Lord,I speak to you as a faithful servant of our Lord, Jesus Christ.It is through Him that I have been inspired to write this letter.I am a mere infant lamb held in the arms of The Shepherd, close to Hisheart so that I, along with the other faithful, may be protected from eviland fulfil His will.Just as is spoken, each and every one of us who graciously accept His gift,the Holy Spirit, has a divinely inspired task. I have received inspiration for atask which I will fulfil knowing I am a channel for the Word of God by thegrace and power of the Holy Spirit made possible through Jesus Christ.Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My Spiritupon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your oldmen shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days willI pour out My Spirit."There are and will be many who attempt to deceive the faithful with hiddenfalsehoods and even they themselves may not be aware of their drifting. Matthew 24:24 "For there shall arise false christs, and false prophets, andshall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible,they shall deceive the very Elect."The Lord has provided His Holy Spirit to guide those who accept His calling,and those who are true to His Word shall know of deception: Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep'sclothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, orfigs of thistles?"Therefore, I do not judge anyone but know throughthe test of the scriptures, being the Word of God and His judgements, whatis true:Acts 17:11 "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that theyreceived the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scripturesdaily, whether those things were so.17:12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women whichwere Greeks, and of men, not a few."I bid you all well on your journey as my brothers and sisters in Christ.Praise and thanks be to God,Dannii.
     
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    This is where I think it's imperative that we study the bible and all the prophecies to compare scripture with scripture.I read his prophecies on his web site, spec. USA, Britain, Sweden, Australia, and similar nations. Those who believe as I do understand why I picked those nations. The prophecies seems generic to me, ie. they are warnings to repent based on the types of sins each nation seems to have. I am not convinced that this so-called prophet understands the origins of the above mentioned nations.I may be wrong, but I am under the understanding that the prophets of the bible generally understood the background of the nations, peoples and situations that they prophesied about.
     
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    This is where I think it's imperative that we study the bible and all the prophecies to compare scripture with scripture.
    AgreedQUOTE
    I read his prophecies on his web site, spec. USA, Britain, Sweden, Australia, and similar nations. Those who believe as I do understand why I picked those nations. The prophecies seems generic to me, ie. they are warnings to repent based on the types of sins each nation seems to have. I am not convinced that this so-called prophet understands the origins of the above mentioned nations.I may be wrong, but I am under the understanding that the prophets of the bible generally understood the background of the nations, peoples and situations that they prophesied about.
    Considering I live in Australia, I am wondering if you can share some of your thoughts on the parts I highlighted (links on this forum perhaps)?God bless.
     
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    Hi Tim you said "I may be wrong, but I am under the understanding that the prophets of the bible generally understood the background of the nations, peoples and situations that they prophesied about." Who says Jonathan Hansen doesn't understand what is going on in the nations that he wrote about?You said, "I read his prophecies on his web site, spec. USA, Britain, Sweden, Australia, and similar nations. Those who believe as I do understand why I picked those nations. The prophecies seems generic to me, ie. they are warnings to repent based on the types of sins each nation seems to have. I am not convinced that this so-called prophet understands the origins of the above mentioned nations" Tim the role of a prophet is to tell the people what God is saying to them about their nation, church etc. Based on what you said Tim if you looked on the real prophets in the bible you would say that their teachings were also generic because they are teaching the same thing Jonathan Hansen is teaching. The prophets in the bible spoke about the sins of the nation and God's judgement of them if they do not repent. What everyone must remember is that God is a God of love but he is also a God of judgement. Although many persons in the Christian community do not like to acknowledge adequately that God is a God of judgement.Hi AusDisciple. Thank you for sharing what you shared, I know that many many false prophets have done great damage and disservice to the Body of Christ. What I am concerned about though is that a lot of Christians are too quick to label persons as being false prophets when in fact some of these prophets are not false at all. That should not be.My advice to anyone here is to read prophet Hansen's pastoral articles, listen to his teachings and judge for yourself and see if he indeed going against the word of God because if you don't do that and say he is a false prophet when he is a real prophet you are in fact helping to bring down his reputation and his credibility.
     
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    Hi Aus, the following prophecy was given to Jonathan Hansen from God for both Australia and New Zealand.On March 23, 2003 at 0555hrs., Rev. Hansen received the followed warning from God for Australia and New Zealand:"To Australia and New Zealand cousin nations; you are a proud, independent, self-righteous people in love with yourselves and the things of this world. You think you have escaped the cruelties of the world by leaving and migrating to their countries; but I the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whose name is Jesus, will bring the cruelties of life to you. Your humanism and arrogance has reached the heavens; your stench is repulsive to my nose. My holiness cannot turn its back on your sins, your outright rebellion of my laws any longer.Even most of your churches are filled with dead men's bones with only the appearance of serving God.Immorality is commonplace and accepted; homosexuality is accepted; the gods that cursed my people Israel are accepted.You have leaders that are damned as those who called for the Tower of Babel.All religions, creeds and customs striving to become their own gods in their own united created One World Government.You are cursed Australia and New Zealand. You are cursed with your own words and lifestyles that reject my son Jesus Christ in all you say and do.Now get ready for my anger; my arm will smite you with plagues, with residue of crisis and residue of war. Nuclear fallout will drop on you as the dew falls on the ground and you will cry out in anguish; only your cries will yet not be toward me. So, I will continue in my love to allow crisis and plagues and fallout to touch you.Fallout of other nations' judgments will drift over you and again effect your environment, health and lives.You are an arrogant, stubborn people; but as a loving father, I will continue to pursue you regardless of your current deception, defiance, cursing and bemoaning.I will bring you to your knees if I have to break the very source of life that gives your nations' sustenance.Look to me all who are called by my Son Jesus Christ!Look to me and repent of your sins that his (my Son's) blood can cover and protect from my wrath, which is shortly to come upon the nations and upon you." (0618hrs.)http://www.world-ministries.org/
     
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    With all due respect Keira, that is a very general 'prophesy' and can be applied to anyone, anywhere.I prefer to obtain my guidance from the Holy Spirit and the written word of God rather than a man who claims that 'God told him something'.There is absolutely no doubt that there are MANY people who are "proud, independent, self-righteous people in love with (them)selves and the things of this world" and the Bible speaks about this in great detail many times but that doesn't mean that Jonathan Hansen is a genuine prophet.Please test everything according to scripture before you get 'sucked into' possible false teachings.If I am mistaken about Jonathan Hansen then may God forgive me and make that clear to me. edit - I am researching Jonathan Hansen so that I may be more informed about my initial thoughts here because we all know how effective Satan can be at triggering wrong instincts!!! God bless.
     
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    Amen Aussie the only prophet we need at present is Gods Word these prophies are vague not specific and Tim _from _PA knows what he is talking about when it comes to the Nations.
     
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    Based on what you said Tim if you looked on the real prophets in the bible you would say that their teachings were also generic because they are teaching the same thing Jonathan Hansen is teaching.
    Not exactly. Australia is part of the Commonwealth of nations. This is Ephraim. I get this distinct hunch that Jonathan Hansen is treating them like just any Gentile nation that will eventually become desolate and worthless.No, in reality Australia will get punished in the Tribulation like the rest of us, but then will be restored back to the Land of Israel as God's chosen people. That's far more specific.As a matter of fact, if Jonathan Hansen is teaching opposite of that, you can go with what I am saying instead and take that to the bank with you. Go with anything else and you will lose out.
     
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