God's Approval / Two gospels in Prophecy vs Mystery!

[GRACE ambassador]

Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). Have you Prayerfully And Carefully Considered!:
Rightly Dividing God's Word { All Scriptures Are AV } Of Truth?

"Example" of God’s leaders/numbers / Salvation/commissions in:

His Two Different Programs:​

LORD JESUS, we pray that You Would Help our understanding, as we:

Begin:
(1) Representative apostles + number! For God’s Law / Prophetic Program,
“prophesied since the world began!” (Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21!):

God’s Complete Number Twelve represents:

Twelve baptisms Twelve apostles who will rule in the Prophesied kingdom
With CHRIST!, on Twelve thrones, Over the Twelve tribes of Israel!
(Genesis 49:28; Isaiah 9:7, 32:1; Matthew 19:28; Luke 22:30; James 1:1 AV)

►► Peter [+11], Twelve preached:

​

gospel of the kingdom!:​

(A) Salvation = "he that believeth and is baptized Shall Be Saved!"
(Mark 16:16 cp Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38; James 2:17-18 AV) ◄◄

(B) And Includes The LORD’s Five-Part Marching Orders, the
so-called ( added as a Page Header in Bibles ) Great Commission:

(B1):
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name
Of The Father, and Of The SON, and of The Holy Ghost: Teaching
them to Observe All Things Whatsoever I Have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen!”

(Matthew_28:19-20!)​

Including: “Observe All things Whatsoever I Have Commanded you!”:

“Then Spake JESUS To the multitude, And To HIS disciples,
Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that Observe
and Do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not!”

(Matthew 23:1-3 cp Acts 21:20 AV)​

(B2):
“And HE Said Unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the
gospel to every creature. He that believeth And is baptized shall
be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these
signs Shall Follow them that believe: In MY Name shall they cast out
devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents;

and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they
shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover…. And they went
forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working With them, and
Confirming The Word With signs following. Amen!” (Mark 16:15-20 AV)

(B3):
“And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
HIS Name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are
witnesses of these things. And, behold, I Send The Promise of MY
Father Upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be
endued with power From On High!” (Luke 24:47-49 AV)

(B4):
“Then Said JESUS To them again, Peace Be Unto you: As MY Father
Hath Sent ME, Even So Send I you. And When HE Had Said This, HE
Breathed On them, And Saith Unto them, Receive ye The Holy Ghost:
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and
whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained!” (John 20:21-23 AV)

(B5):
“But ye shall receive power, after that The Holy Ghost Is Come Upon you:
and ye shall be witnesses unto ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea,
and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth!” (Acts 1:8 AV)

End of: Salvation / Commission In God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"

From CHRIST To HIS Twelve, on the earth! { Currently “On Hold!” }
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Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” {online}:
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From CHRIST To HIS One, From Heaven!! { Currently Active!}

to be continued...

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Part 2 of: God's Approval / Two gospels in Prophecy vs Mystery!

From CHRIST To HIS Twelve, on the earth! { Currently “On Hold!” }
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Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” {online}:
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From CHRIST To HIS One, From Heaven!! { Currently Active!}

Continue with:
(2) Representative apostle + number / God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS:

Revelation Of The MYSTERY​

God’s Heavenly Hidden Purpose Before “the foundation
of the world...Kept Secret since the world began”
(Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 AV)

{ Precious friend(s), If you have Never prayerfully/carefully studied
This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s Distinctive ministry From God! )
before, Please take some time for ”Approval Unto God!,” Please? }:

►►►
"Howbeit for this cause I obtained Mercy, That In me First JESUS CHRIST
Might Shew Forth All Longsuffering, For a Pattern to them which should
hereafter believe on HIM to life everlasting!” (1 Timothy 1:16 AV) ◄◄◄

God's First number, One, Represents:

"...One body, and One Spirit, even as ye are called in One hope of
your calling; One Lord, One faith, One Baptism, One God and Father..."
(Ephesians 4:4-6 AV), "...One Mediator..." (1 Timothy 2:5 AV),
"...One New Man..." (Ephesians 2:15 AV), And:

Chosen By God:
One individual apostle, Paul, Both Roman and Hebrew
(Acts 9:6, 15, 13:2, 20:24, 22:1-15, 21, 25-28, 26:17-18; Philippians 3:5;
Romans 1:1, 11:13, 15:16-18; Galatians 1:15, 2:7-8; Ephesians 3:1;
1 Timothy 1:11, 2:7; 2 Timothy 1:11 AV), who represents:

Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5:17-6:2 AV), of Both Jew And
Gentile, as individuals, Into “One New Man!” (Ephesians 2:15-16 AV)

Spiritually Baptized ( And Spiritually United as
members of one another! ), By: One Baptism!
(1 Corinthians 12:13 cp Ephesians 4:5, 5:30 AV), Into:

One Body, In Heaven!...​

... [ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,
The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The One And Only HEAD Of HIS Church!!
(1 Timothy 3:16; Ephesians 1:22, 5:23; Colossians 1:18 AV)
Praise HIS Precious Name! Amen?

The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:​

(A)
“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,
How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;
And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day
According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4 AV)
+
"For By GRACE are ye Saved Through faith; and that not of yourselves:
It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"
( Ephesians 2:8-9 AV cp Much of Romans through Philemon AV # )

​

{ GRACE {UNmerited Favor Of God!} Found 85 Times! }​

(B) And, The Mystery Includes The LORD’s Greater GRACE Commission! =

Ministry of Reconciliation!

"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By
JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;
to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,
Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us

The Word Of Reconciliation!

Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech
you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For
HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might Be

Made The Righteousness Of God In HIM!

We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive
not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time
accepted, and in The Day of Salvation have I Succoured [ Helped ] thee: behold,
Now Is The Accepted Time; behold, Now Is The Day Of Salvation!!)”
(2 Corinthians 5:18-6:2 AV) Today, simply believe The Gospel Of GRACE! {(A) above!}

(C)
The Body Of CHRIST, with "...faith that worketh by love...Fulfills All The law In That
One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!" (Galatians 5:6, 14; Romans 13:8-10 AV)

End: God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The Mystery!

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Concluding questions for thought(s) of Precious friend(s):

(1) If, as some believe, the Great commission is For us, today, should we
not Also obey All That CHRIST “Commanded within That commission"?
{if necessary, please review Prophecy/Law above, ok?}

(2) If, as some believe, there is only one gospel, and, that Peter AND Paul Both
preached The Exact Same thing, then why would God "Reveal A Secret," that
"He Had Already revealed {ie: The Exact Same thing}"? Does that make sense,
Precious friend(s)? For a few Similarities and Many Distinctions please go here!

"...The Mystery [Secret] of CHRIST, Which in other ages was Not made known unto the
sons of men, as it is Now Revealed Unto his holy apostles and prophets By the Spirit;”
(Ephesians 3:4-5 AV}

(3) For 11 years as a babe In CHRIST, I was not aware of the above, only being
taught pick and choose theology. I pray this simple lesson will challenge one or
more to Seriously Consider the question: Am I really "Approved Unto God"?

See Bible "study" Rules - here is #2:

“Study to shew thyself Approved unto God, a workman that​

needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”​

(2 Timothy 2:15 AV)​

Precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Blessed In
CHRIST, And, in Rightly Dividing / Correctly Handling His Precious WORD Of Truth!
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LORD JESUS, Thank You So Much for Your
GRACE, Peace, Mercy, Love, and Approval!

Amen.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

More Additional Helpful Scriptural Evidence For Two Different Gospels!:

Gospel of the kingdom =

Gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 (Matthew 3:1-2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

The Prophecy Program for the Jews (Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26;
Daniel 2:44 James 1:1)

Preaching of The Cross as historical (Acts 2:23; Acts 2:36; Acts 3:14-15;
Acts 5:30)

Gospel to be believed = Christ’s Name (Matthew 16:16; John 20:31;
1 John 5:13)

Salvation by faith and water baptism (Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

Justification without works is dead (James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

Repentance emphasized along with faith (Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

Reconciliation not mentioned.

Covers Matthew – Acts 8, then Tribulation (Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12;
Matthew 24:14)

Under The Law (Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

Good works will follow salvation (Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5;
1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7; 1 John 3:10)
Gospel of the kingdom

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” {online}:

Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

Gospel of the Uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

Preached first by Paul, then his companions (Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24;
Acts 16:29-31; Romans 3:24)

The Mystery Program for The Gentiles (Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27;
Romans 16:25)

The preaching of The Cross as Good News (1 Corinthians 1:18;
1 Corinthians 2:2;1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Gospel to be believed = Christ’s Work (Romans 5:6; Romans 5:8;
Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing (Ephesians 2:8-9;
Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

Justification by faith without works emphasized (Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5; Romans 4:16; Galatians 2:16)

Repentance as a synonym for faith (Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

Involves reconciliation to God and man (Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15;
2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

Covers Paul’s letters Romans – Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

Not under the law (Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

Precious friends, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted and Edified!
God's Simple Will!

 

[Robert Gwin]

Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). Have you Prayerfully And Carefully Considered!:
Rightly Dividing God's WORD {All Scriptures Are KJB} Of Truth?

"Example" of God’s leaders/numbers / Salvation/commissions in:

His TWO Different Programs:​

LORD JESUS, we pray that You Would Help our understanding, as we:

Begin:
(1) Representative apostles + number! For God’s LAW/PROPHETIC Program,
“prophesied since the world began!” (Luke_1:68-70; Acts_3:21!):

God’s Complete Number TWELVE represents:

TWELVE baptismS, TWELVE apostles who will rule in the Prophesied kingdom
With CHRIST!, on TWELVE thrones, Over the TWELVE tribes of Israel!
(Genesis_49:28; Isaiah_9:7, 32:1; Matthew_19:28; Luke_22:30; James_1:1!)

►► Peter [+11], TWELVE preached:

gospel of the kingdom!:​

(A) Salvation = "he that believeth AND is baptized Shall Be SAVED!"
(Mark_16:16 cp Luke_7:29-30; Acts_2:38; James_2:17-18!) ◄◄

(B) And Includes The LORD’s FIVE-Part Marching Orders, the
so-called ( added as a Page Header in Bibles ) Great Commission:

(B1):
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name
Of The Father, and Of The SON, and of The Holy Ghost: Teaching
them to Observe ALL Things Whatsoever I Have Commanded you:
and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen!”

(Matthew_28:19-20!)​

Including: “Observe ALL things WHATSOEVER I Have COMMANDED you!”:

“Then Spake JESUS To the multitude, And To HIS disciples,
Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:
ALL therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that OBSERVE
AND DO; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not!”

(Matthew_23:1-3!)​

(B2):
“And HE Said Unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the
gospel to every creature. He that believeth And is baptized shall
be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these
signs Shall Follow them that believe: In MY Name shall they cast out
devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents;

and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they
shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover…. And they went
forth, and preached every where, The LORD Working With them, and
Confirming The Word With signs following. Amen!” (Mark_16:15-20!)

(B3):
“And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in
HIS Name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are
witnesses of these things. And, behold, I Send The Promise of MY
Father Upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be
endued with power From On High!” (Luke_24:47-49!)

(B4):
“Then Said JESUS To them again, Peace Be Unto you: As MY Father
Hath Sent ME, Even So Send I you. And When HE Had Said This, HE
Breathed On them, And Saith Unto them, Receive ye The Holy Ghost:
Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and
whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained!” (John_20:21-23!)

(B5):
“But ye shall receive power, after that The Holy Ghost Is Come Upon you:
and ye shall be witnesses unto ME both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea,
and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth!” (Acts_1:8!)

End of: Salvation / Commission In God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"

From CHRIST To HIS TWELVE, on the earth! { Currently “On HOLD!” }
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Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!”:
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From CHRIST To HIS one, From Heaven!! { Currently ACTIVE!}

to be continued...

To sum it up, True faith is active.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

To sum it up, True faith is active.

active With "GOOD works," Correct? So, how do you interpret This Judgment?:

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

"bad works" means FALSE faith? IF so, how come God Says they are saved?

 

[Robert Gwin]

active With "GOOD works," Correct? So, how do you interpret This Judgment?:

1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

"bad works" means FALSE faith? IF so, how come God Says they are saved?

You know salvation is kind of a confusing topic, many will say they are saved right now, but salvation is actually receiving the gift of everlasting life. Our understanding is that when someone dies they are acquitted of sin and unless they have sinned against the holy spirit, they will be resurrected. Jesus clearly taught that those who sin against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, so they will not be resurrected. We believe that to get that judgment one has to know God intimately, and work against His purposes. Perhaps you agree with that definition.

The Bible promises there will be a first resurrection Rev 20:6 in which those have achieved everlasting life, those of verse 5 do not come to life until they pass the test of satans release at the end of the millennial reign of Christ. These are those resurrected who are both righteous and unrighteous during their lives. Being unrighteous means they did not serve God while alive, perhaps from not even hearing about Him. Many throughout history have never had the opportunity to hear about the true God, therefore they did not have the chance to choose to be among His people. But at any rate the vast majority of mankind will not come to life until the thousand years have ended.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

"bad works" means FALSE faith? IF so, how come God Says they are saved?

You know salvation is kind of a confusing topic, many will say they are saved right now, but salvation is actually receiving the gift of everlasting life.

Precious friend, not confusing at all. Agree: God's ETERNAL "salvation is actually receiving The GIFT Of Everlasting Life!" It is not God, But "it IS men" who Change HIS Pure Words Into: "earn This FREE Gift by conditional/temporary life." Makes NO sense, Correct:

Today, Under GRACE, UNbelievers are to respond to God's Gospel Of GRACE
(1 Corinthians 15:3-4), In "belief from the heart" (Romans 10:9-13), "not of themSELVES, OR works" (Ephesians 2:8-9), but, By God's PURE "GRACE And MERCY" (Titus 3:5), Correct?

So, why is "salvation Confusing," Agreeing With God, That "at that Very Moment" of faith, HE Bestows HIS FREE GIFT Upon that "believer"? There Is OVERWHELMING Biblical Evidence To This Very Fact!:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
God's Eternal Assurance

 

[Luther7]

More Additional Helpful Scriptural Evidence For Two Different Gospels!:

Gospel of the kingdom =

Gospel of the circumcision (Galatians 2:7; Acts 3:25-26; Genesis 17:9-14)

Preached by John, Jesus, and the 12 (Matthew 3:1-2; Matthew 4:17; Matthew 4:23; Matthew 9:35; Matthew 10:5-8)

The Prophecy Program for the Jews (Luke 1:32-33; Luke 3:19-26;
Daniel 2:44 James 1:1)

Preaching of The Cross as historical (Acts 2:23; Acts 2:36; Acts 3:14-15;
Acts 5:30)

Gospel to be believed = Christ’s Name (Matthew 16:16; John 20:31;
1 John 5:13)

Salvation by faith and water baptism (Mark 1-4; Mark 16:16; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 2:38)

Justification without works is dead (James 2:17; James 2:20; James 2:24; James 2:26)

Repentance emphasized along with faith (Mark 1:15; Luke 3:8-14; Acts 3:19)

Reconciliation not mentioned.

Covers Matthew – Acts 8, then Tribulation (Acts 3:19-21; Acts 8:12;
Matthew 24:14)

Under The Law (Matthew 5:17; Matthew 8:4; Matthew 23:2-3)

Good works will follow salvation (Matthew 7:15-20; 1 John 2:3-5;
1 John 2:29; 1 John 3:7; 1 John 3:10)
Gospel of the kingdom

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” {online}:

Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

Gospel of the Uncircumcision (Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

Preached first by Paul, then his companions (Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24;
Acts 16:29-31; Romans 3:24)

The Mystery Program for The Gentiles (Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27;
Romans 16:25)

The preaching of The Cross as Good News (1 Corinthians 1:18;
1 Corinthians 2:2;1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Gospel to be believed = Christ’s Work (Romans 5:6; Romans 5:8;
Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing (Ephesians 2:8-9;
Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

Justification by faith without works emphasized (Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5; Romans 4:16; Galatians 2:16)

Repentance as a synonym for faith (Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

Involves reconciliation to God and man (Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15;
2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

Covers Paul’s letters Romans – Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

Not under the law (Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

Precious friends, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted and Edified!
God's Simple Will!

You are spreading heresy. I'm not even trying to be apologetic because it's so anti Christ.

Ephesians 4:4-6:
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.

 

[Davy]

You are spreading heresy. I'm not even trying to be apologetic because it's so anti Christ.

Ephesians 4:4-6:
4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all, and through all, and in us all.

TRUE...

The false Dual Gospel theories began in the era of the 19th century Bible scholar E.W. Bullinger, as he also took ideas from the false doctrines of a Pre-trib Rapture Dispensationalism created by John Nelson Darby in 1830's Great Britain. Bullinger lived in the late 1800's, and succumbed to Darby's false pre-trib rapture and dispensationalist notions. However, Bullinger truly was an excellent Bible scholar; he simply was deceived in that era of 18oo's Great Britain when the false Pre-trib Rapture was popularly taught.

Their doctrine believes that Christ's Church today actually began at the close of Acts, and begin with Apostle Paul's preaching of The Gospel.

Later names for the movement also was known as the Grace Movement.

 

[Luther7]

TRUE...

The false Dual Gospel theories began in the era of the 19th century Bible scholar E.W. Bullinger, as he also took ideas from the false doctrines of a Pre-trib Rapture Dispensationalism created by John Nelson Darby in 1830's Great Britain. Bullinger lived in the late 1800's, and succumbed to Darby's false pre-trib rapture and dispensationalist notions. However, Bullinger truly was an excellent Bible scholar; he simply was deceived in that era of 18oo's Great Britain when the false Pre-trib Rapture was popularly taught.

Their doctrine believes that Christ's Church today actually began at the close of Acts, and begin with Apostle Paul's preaching of The Gospel.

Later names for the movement also was known as the Grace Movement.

Ever wonder how many Christians are actually watching and waiting for their Lord's return?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Ever wonder how many Christians are actually watching and waiting for their Lord's return?

Those of us in unity in the Rightly Divided Mid-Acts group ( 10's / 100's of thousands? ) are Actually:

"looking, watching, and ( patiently ) waiting For God's Great GRACE Departure With":​

The HOLY ONE, The LORD JESUS CHRIST! ​

(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25;​

1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3;​

1 Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Thessalonians 5:5-11; Titus 2:13)​

Meanwhile, how many millions/trillions(?) of 'mid, pre-wrath, and Post-tribbers' are Actually looking, watching,
and ( impatiently ? ) waiting for "The Wicked one, the man of sin, the son of Perdition, eh?

And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

 

[Luther7]

Those of us in unity in the Rightly Divided Mid-Acts group ( 10's / 100's of thousands? ) are Actually:

"looking, watching, and ( patiently ) waiting For God's Great GRACE Departure With":​

The HOLY ONE, The LORD JESUS CHRIST! ​

(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25;​

1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3;​

1 Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Thessalonians 5:5-11; Titus 2:13)​

Meanwhile, how many millions/trillions(?) of 'mid, pre-wrath, and Post-tribbers' are Actually looking, watching,
and ( impatiently ? ) waiting for "The Wicked one, the man of sin, the son of Perdition, eh?

And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.

I'm sorry but we're all going to be here until the very last day of this world. We will all witness the talmudic world order ( period of great tribulation) in which the jews messiah will govern the earth and be worshipped as God. I thank God those days shall be shortened.

 

[Davy]

Ever wonder how many Christians are actually watching and waiting for their Lord's return?

I realize that many brethren say... they are watching, and think that just means being ready to go, and not actually watching the signs Lord Jesus gave leading up to His future return.

 

[Luther7]

I realize that many brethren say... they are watching, and think that just means being ready to go, and not actually watching the signs Lord Jesus gave leading up to His future return.

How far away do you think we are from the great tribulation? And what do you think it will entail?

 

[Davy]

How far away do you think we are from the great tribulation? And what do you think it will entail?

Well, I believe we have been in Lord Jesus' "beginning of sorrows" time for quite a while now, which involves nation again nation, increasing earthquakes, war, famines, and pestilences. Those are signs that He gave within the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Seals of Revelation 6.

When Lord Jesus said we'd hear of wars and rumors of wars, but not to worry because those things must be, BUT THE END IS NOT YET, He was pointing to how the time of "great tribulation" will come. It will be the opposite of wars. All wars will have stopped, and a world peace will be established, though a fake peace. This is why Revelation 13:4 asks who is able to make war with the beast?

With that understanding, look at how the world and nations act today. I know just in my lifetime there has come a greater one-world structure established between nations through globalist groups like the U.N., Trilateralism, Bilderbergers, Club of Rome, Council On Foreign Relations, Rhodes scholarship programs, a gluing together of nations in the realm of economics, finance, politics, technology, and with religious ecumenical movements of all religions cooperating together, and even the root Communist nations like Russia and China adopting forms of capitalism, all those are signs just in my era, of a movement towards a one world government that has been at work since the tower of Babel.

Even President Trump, whom I like, is helping to glue nations closer together towards accepting a world peace, while quieting down unseen workers for Satan that are trying to bring the earth into a world war three.

Thus world peace is the pivot point that will bring the time of "great tribulation" with the false-Messiah arriving on the scene. No group of human individuals will be able to bring that world peace by themselves. It will require a 'supernatural' working by one given the power of miracles to deceive the world into believing he is God. And that false one per God's Word is to appear in power in Jerusalem, and be setup there as king.

Many brethren do not study their Bible thoroughly enough about the signs Jesus gave us leading up to His future return. So they don't truly understand what the "great tribulation" will be about. There's more yelling on soapboxes about it being a time like the "beginning of sorrows" Lord Jesus showed with events that happen PRIOR to the time of world peace being brought by the coming false-Messiah in Jerusalem.

So just how... can a time of world peace represent "great tribulation"?

Per Daniel 8:23-25, that "king of fierce countenance", the coming false-Messiah, will destroy many souls using peace, and he will even cause craft to prosper. There won't be any war. And Revelation 9 points out that his locust army of workers on earth cannot hurt any green thing on the earth, nor kill those NOT sealed with God's Seal, but they can only sting the unsealed for a period of "five months". Later in that same Revelation 9 chapter, that stinging is also shown in connection with what comes out of the 'mouth' of those locusts. That is pointing to a spiritual attack upon one's soul through words of deception. And Lord Jesus' first warning sign in Matthew 24 was to not allow any man to deceive us. In that way, through words of deception by Satan's locust army of servants, even as fake priests, it will be like a great tribulation upon the souls of the deceived.

At the same time, involving Christ's elect, as His Church will go through the "great tribulation", how will it affect us?

For those of us whom God has Sealed by The Holy Spirit, we cannot be deceived by those locusts, nor by the false-Messiah. Our tribulation type will be that the majority of the world, who will be deceived, will hate us and persecute us. Thus for the deceived, it will a time of great peace, a Utopia. But for us, a time of trial upon our patience that we've likely never experienced before. Lord Jesus showed this event also in His Olivet discourse of signs for the end. Some of us will be delivered up to give a Testimony against the beast, and we are to speak what The Holy Spirit gives us to speak in that hour. That will be the main purpose of the 'cloven tongue' of Pentecost, as every people in every language and dialects will understand what is spoken on that day. That will be how the "great tribulation" will be a tribulation upon Christ's faithful elect.
That will initiate Satan's final stroke in wanting to destroy Christ's servants off this earth in toto, and will quickly bring the final battle of this world with Lord Jesus' and His army from Heaven at His return.