Gog & Magog - Jabolqa & Jaborsa

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Gog & Magog - Jablaqa & Jabrasa
Hi to the real seekers of the science!

well,
we have heard many narrations about Gog and Magog
but we don't know where are they

plus we have in Shi'a/Islam narrations about several creatures except for Adam and his generation!

those places haven't been discovered yet!?
or NASA etc.. have hidden them from us!!

look at this 1000-year old map:
Kashgari_map.jpg


i translate it's places clockwise from the top that has been written جابرقا

first of all i should say this image is 90 degree to the left. as polarities of the map say.
and the top that is written "Jayarqa جایرقا" that is the easternmost!

well,

  • * Jairaqa[Jablaqa], Macin[China & Machin], [red arc]Gog & Magog, [the green mount] Mihbat Adam[place Adam descended],
    * above the mount, the green line is the dam of Dhulqarnayn
    * central bold red lines are China
    * bottom maps are the Middle Eastern countries

well,
Qur'an 18
83. And they ask you about Zul-Qarnain. Say, “I will tell you something about him.”
84. We established him on earth, and gave him all kinds of means.
85. He pursued a certain course.
86. Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a murky spring, and found a people in its vicinity. We said, “O Zul-Qarnain, you may either inflict a penalty, or else treat them kindly.”
87. He said, “As for him who does wrong, we will penalize him, then he will be returned to his Lord, and He will punish him with an unheard-of torment.
88. “But as for him who believes and acts righteously, he will have the finest reward, and We will speak to him of Our command with ease.”
89. Then he pursued a course.
90. Until, when he reached the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no shelter from it.
91. And so it was. We had full knowledge of what he had.
92. Then he pursued a course.
93. Until, when he reached the point separating the two barriers, he found beside them a people who could barely understand what is said.
94. They said, “O Zul-Qarnain, the Gog and Magog are spreading chaos in the land. Can we pay you, to build between us and them a wall?”
95. He said, “What my Lord has empowered me with is better. But assist me with strength, and I will build between you and them a dam.”
96. “Bring me blocks of iron.” So that, when he had leveled up between the two cliffs, he said, “Blow.” And having turned it into a fire, he said, “Bring me tar to pour over it.”
97. So they were unable to climb it, and they could not penetrate it.
98. He said, “This is a mercy from my Lord. But when the promise of my Lord comes true, He will turn it into rubble, and the promise of my Lord is always true.”
99. On that Day, We will leave them surging upon one another. And the Trumpet will be blown, and We will gather them together.
100. On that Day, We will present the disbelievers to Hell, all displayed.
101. Those whose eyes were screened to My message, and were unable to hear.
102. Do those who disbelieve think that they can take My servants for masters instead of Me? We have prepared Hell for the hospitality of the faithless.
103. Say, “Shall We inform you of the greatest losers in their works?”

Well, as I told before, the doctrine of Shi'a/Islam that claims is the real Islam says Qur'an alone is not enough for a Muslim, and It needS to commentary and just the 12Imam after the Prophet[SAWA] are able to commentary.. as an Ayah has up to 70 commentaries!

NON-Shia muslims whom you ask them, reply those are Barbarian or Mongolian!!
But Shi'a says:
I try to write short of those all amazing texts of the 12Imam i've read..

* The Prophet[S.A.W.A] about the verse[Ayeh] 90 said: ..this is Jablaqa

* Imam Ali[pbuh]: ..I will come back and attack to world[evills] such as grinding the flour with them[Jablaqa & Jabrasa]

* Imam Hassan[pbuh]: ..God creatED a green mount that the blue colored of the sky is for that and behind that God HaS creatED 70 civilizations so much more advanced as you are.. And they don't know about creating Adam and nor Satan! no son of Prophets has met them but me and my brother Hussayn

* Imam Sadiq[pbuh]: ..Easternmost and Westernmost of the world God HaS CreatED Jablaqa and Jabrasa that have Iron walls with 10,000 golden doors and each one of the door has 10,000 bodyguard and they haven't ever disobey God even at the moment!

*Imam Redha[pbuh]: ...They have Iron weapons! But not weapon and iron which you have.. means if one of them wills, can split a mount by one tap.. And if their Imams[we] ask them to destroy whole the world, they do at the moment..

Well, these were some parts of ahadith of Shi'a about Jablaqa and Jabarsa which are like Angels and are Good.

I ask you, if the Gog & Magog is te same Mongols, therefore Jabolqa and Jabarsa are Japan and the US that are god of technologies on the earth haha[May God help them the more about science and technology]

And about Gog & Magog say:
..They are 3 types:
One are giant as the tree poplar is,
One are 4 dhra' square dimension, and more powerful than others[3meter]
One have very big ears as cover themselves with their own ears!

Well, after Dhulqarnayn nobody of them hasn't ever come this side of the dam.
And will come near the resurrection day!

So the people of East-Asia aren't them
And about fighters of Shilla and Mongolia we have other narration[Ahadith]

Imam Sadiq[pbuh] said: "...they(Jabolqa & Jablasa) are just Male, and there isn't any Female among them.. such as the honey bee that God CommandS them to make honey by Inspiration, they are mornings and nights cursing the first and second[abubakr and umar- two caliphs of muslims also the beasts of the Revelation] and are waiting for coming the Saviour and even some of them always have kept their own weapons and swords and count moments for coming the Saviour..

Imam Redha[pbuh] said: we[12Imams] always meet them and say something to them heavy things if tell them to you people, you won't believe and will be infidels/unbelievers!..

Imam Baqir[pbuh] said: "...they have 1000years lifetime and each one of them does protect one the golden doors for a period.. each one of the golden doors, 70,000 people with 70,000 languages enter in that and we[12Imam] know all those languages...

Imam Hussayn[pbuh] said: "...if you spirituals see their worshiping, then will be shameful about your own worshipings..
They haven't ever disobeyed God even at the moment.

The sixth Imam, Ja'far Al-Sadiq[pbuh] said: "..when Dhulqarnayn made finished the dam, then went toward darkness and saw an Angel with 500 dhra' tall[~300meters] was on a mount, then asked who are you!? Replied: I'm the Angel protector for this mount what all mountains of the world are connected to that and anytime wants to be Earthquake each point of the earth, I command this and does"

The seventh Imam, Mosa bin Ja'far[pbuh] said: "..God Has CreatED a Peridot Mount [the mount Qaf] that the Blue Colored of Sky is for that otherwise the sky is more White than the Elephant's Tusk, and behind of that are 70 civilizations so much more than you Advanced, with names 'Jablaqa جابلقا and Jabrasa جابرسا" that aren't seeds of Adam, and even aren't aware about CreatING Adam or Satan by God.. their job is coursing the first and second.. and awaiting for coming the Saviour.."

look at here to know how the creatures of Jablaqa & Jabrasa rise against enemies of God: a part of the helpers of Al-Mahdi are from Jablaqa & Jabrasa

Are these hidden civilizations!?
or have been discovered and show us them as aliens!! or the grays!!

and the theory i have!
Why do these places have 2 parts!?
Does this show spherical Earth!?
that easternmost and westernmost are connected together!?
as on the map the names Jablaqa & Jabrasa have mixed to a name 'Jairaqa'
or Gog and Magog... all 2part names have a single place!!
also!
Is Jabrasa the same Japan because of their Flag and rising the sun as the verse number 90 points!?
 

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we have heard many narrations about Gog and Magog
but we don't know where are they

They appear in the book of Revelation as enemies of God attacking Jerusalem.
Revelation is a series of word pictures about the history and future of God's people/church.

So the question really is who is meant by God's people is it just the Jews, is it those who are Christian or is it those who are Muslim?

As a Christian my bias is that it referrs to Christians.
You have your own bias, I only propose to note one extra thing.

Through history Gods chosen people the Jews have been hated, this continues today by all those who are not of God.
Which raises the question as Islam hates the Jews are they really of God?
 

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They appear in the book of Revelation as enemies of God attacking Jerusalem.
Revelation is a series of word pictures about the history and future of God's people/church.

So the question really is who is meant by God's people is it just the Jews, is it those who are Christian or is it those who are Muslim?

As a Christian my bias is that it referrs to Christians.
You have your own bias, I only propose to note one extra thing.

Through history Gods chosen people the Jews have been hated, this continues today by all those who are not of God.
Which raises the question as Islam hates the Jews are they really of God?
Here you are dear uncle:
The apocalyptic thread here:
Revelation of the saint Yuhanna[pbuh]

Nope!
We don't have bias about our own .... bcz it's the Self-Centering and the sign of the fool.

We have been born in our own beliefs..
Then we are QUOTING our own sources together..
Then we research/compare/analyze all..
Therefore we'll find many keywords of the Crossword fot finding the Truths/Facts!

God's chosen people are the real believers/spirituals from any Race/Social Position/Location/Gender/
My source here is this topic:
Races Vs Racism
 

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God's chosen people are the real believers/spirituals from any Race/Social Position/Location/Gender/
My source here is this topic:

In the OT the chosen people are the Jews, they are chosen to be an example of how people can live as they follow Gods laws. They were also chosen to be the people from whom Gods Son would be born to finally save all who follow God.
Today Gods chosen people are all who follow Jesus.