Grocery prices are not the problem

[HealthyShape]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

 

[amigo de christo]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

Many have indeed become enamoured with ya best life now and have no idea about godliness with contentment .
In their dreams of the pursuit of more
they have long lost site of what ever truly mattered or will have mattered in this short vapor life
And that was TO KNOW GOD AND HIS CHRIST , TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE and to keep the focus and affections above on HIM .
Many churches have long followed the so called american dream
which in truth is naught but a nightmare from which they cannot awaken .
Slumbering and rolling over and over in their sleep as they think to themselves
IF ONLY i had more , IF ONLY i had this or that my life would be better ,
BUT NOT KNOWING that all they ever NEEDED was THE LORD
who could have sustained them through all times .
There is no real hope or life in them . its always if i had this or that
and then even when they get the this or that
THEY cannot be satisified . He who loveth silver is not satisfied with silver .
And he whose dreams and hopes be in this world and its things
Will be as the sea drivin by fierce winds
upon which they are tossed to and fro and can find no true rest . Its not about what we have in this life
ITS ABOUT DO WE HAVE THE LORD that matters .

 

[amigo de christo]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

and what was and is the result of this dream .
The man and his wife work long hours
children are left to be raised by TV and by the state
And the chaos just gets worse and worse .
Its not about what we can attain of this world
ITS SIMPLY do we KNOW , LOVE AND SERVE THE HOLY GOD and HIS CHRIST .
This life is but a vapor
and it will come to an end .
BUT ALL whose hopes , all whose trust , all whose affections were above ON GOD ALL MIGHTY and KING JESUS
know they have a far better place that awaits them . THEY have hope .
They have the abundant life , and that life giveth joy and peace and hope
No matter what circumstance cometh upon them . FOR they KNOW THE LORD
and they KNOW HE IS WITH THEM and they know , THANKS BE TO HIM , HIS MERCY AND GRACE
given them IN CHRIST JESUS , what a paradise awaits them at their end . And they look forward TO HIS DAY
and not their kingdom now and thier will be done , BUT HIS KINGDOM and HIS WILL BE DONE on earth as it is in heaven .
HOPE abounds . But hope in this world is but death and decepetion and even if they lived
a king on earth and had more than heart could wish , They are poor blind and naked and their end is destruction .
OH ITS JESUS PREACHING TIME in the HOUSE . TIME to remind all of all pure and holy biblical doctrine
whereby one can grow and learn .

 

[Bob]

Thank you for your post.

If only healthcare in the U.S. were “free.”

Canada’s ‘Free’ Healthcare: Two Years for an Ultrasound, Eh

Exploring Canada's healthcare wait times: Is 'free' really free?

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Blessings.

 

[amigo de christo]

Thank you for your post.

If only healthcare in the U.S. were “free.”

Canada’s ‘Free’ Healthcare: Two Years for an Ultrasound, Eh

Exploring Canada's healthcare wait times: Is 'free' really free?

twitchy.com

Blessings.

What many think is free will come at great cost . for in the heart of man lies wickedness
and always it is about THE MOST money saving way to do things .
The govt mighty health care will be the end of many .
But to the elites and the few , THEY will be taken great care of , NOT SO FOR HUMANITY .
its not gonna bode well at all . I mean NOT AT ALL .

 

[BlueNightingale]

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Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

In the Washington State, housing is expensive due to gentrification. This is where you have large companies like Netflix, Amazon, passing out higher salaries and rent increases. Landlords also require first, middle, last month, and deposit there, plus an $80 background check they may not even go through and pocket.

So unless you are able to save at least $5,000 and have had a head start with family support, no luck. Over 40% of the homeless are working. Many with good jobs and a motel will run you about $300-500 weekly, depending on the season.

Midwest food is more expensive in some ways and less than others. Housing is far, far less.

IMO, If I WeRE PreSidEnt, parents should have a choice for homeschooling without intrusion, with the possibility of public education being a free offered service, and paid high school diploma program, and college should be a free service- just like ever other public school that exists in the country.

Free healthcare.

 

[HealthyShape]

In the Washington State, housing is expensive due to gentrification. This is where you have large companies like Netflix, Amazon, passing out higher salaries and rent increases. Landlords also require first, middle, last month, and deposit there, plus an $80 background check they may not even go through and pocket.

So unless you are able to save at least $5,000 and have had a head start with family support, no luck. Over 40% of the homeless are working. Many with good jobs and a motel will run you about $300-500 weekly, depending on the season.

Midwest food is more expensive in some ways and less than others. Housing is far, far less.

IMO, If I WeRE PreSidEnt, parents should have a choice for homeschooling without intrusion, with the possibility of public education being a free offered service, and paid high school diploma program, and college should be a free service- just like ever other public school that exists in the country.

Free healthcare.

Houses and apartments have also become investments. People buy them to appreciate their capital instead of living in them. This is causing all sorts of issues.

 

[Rockerduck]

In the Washington State, housing is expensive due to gentrification. This is where you have large companies like Netflix, Amazon, passing out higher salaries and rent increases. Landlords also require first, middle, last month, and deposit there, plus an $80 background check they may not even go through and pocket.

So unless you are able to save at least $5,000 and have had a head start with family support, no luck. Over 40% of the homeless are working. Many with good jobs and a motel will run you about $300-500 weekly, depending on the season.

Midwest food is more expensive in some ways and less than others. Housing is far, far less.

IMO, If I WeRE PreSidEnt, parents should have a choice for homeschooling without intrusion, with the possibility of public education being a free offered service, and paid high school diploma program, and college should be a free service- just like ever other public school that exists in the country.

Free healthcare.

Nothing from a gov't is ever free.

 

[Rockerduck]

The more rural you go, the cheaper it gets. Alot of people live in a rural place and drive 2 hrs to work. I've known several who drove from one state to another to work. If you live rural in farm country, you can get to know farmers and cattle ranchers and buy food cheap from them. If you are smart you can do it. I don't go to doctors; I trust no man for healthcare.

Thus says the Lord:

“Cursed is the man who trusts in man
And makes flesh his strength,
Whose heart departs from the Lord.

 

[SavedInHim]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

I agree those things you mentioned are probably bigger problems, yet food prices are on the rise despite Trump's promise to make groceries affordable on day one. There are so many major problems in the US, but the politicians don't care so long as they keep getting theirs. Repent and believe in the Lord, He's the only hope.

 

[HealthyShape]

I agree those things you mentioned are probably bigger problems, yet food prices are on the rise despite Trump's promise to make groceries affordable on day one.

I am just saying that they are still more affordable than in the most of the developed world. The question of quality or health safety of the American food is a different one, though...

 

[Jericho]

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

The problem is, our whole economic system is debt-based. It doesn't help that we have fiat currency that is continually devaluing. Then there are all those other things you mentioned that are really just forms of socialism. I have grown to really dislike insurance. It sounds all good in theory, but in practice it just drives prices up, takes money out of our pockets, and just makes our lives more complicated.

 

[bdavidc]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

President Trump did ease tax burdens, but the Bible shows that our problem isn’t tax codes, it’s righteousness. Proverbs 29:2: “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice, but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” No tax code can address the sin problem.

America’s hope is not in politics but in God and our repentance to Him. “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people” (Proverbs 14:34). May our leaders fear God, rule justly, and seek truth. We should pray for them (1 Timothy 2:1–2), but also know this: only righteousness exalts a nation, and only Christ changes hearts.

 

[HealthyShape]

President Trump did ease tax burdens, but the Bible shows that our problem isn’t tax codes, it’s righteousness. Proverbs 29:2: “When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice, but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” No tax code can address the sin problem.

America’s hope is not in politics but in God and our repentance to Him. “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people” (Proverbs 14:34). May our leaders fear God, rule justly, and seek truth. We should pray for them (1 Timothy 2:1–2), but also know this: only righteousness exalts a nation, and only Christ changes hearts.

This is not about religion, but about economy. A religious nation can be dirt poor and a non-religious or a non-Christian nation can prosper, economically.

 

[bdavidc]

This is not about religion, but about economy. A religious nation can be dirt poor and a non-religious or a non-Christian nation can prosper, economically.

You’re missing the point. God’s Word says plainly, “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people” (Proverbs 14:34). You can talk economy all day long, but if a nation rejects God, it is already on the road to ruin. A country can pile up wealth, but that will not stop judgment when sin rules. Jesus said, “What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (Mark 8:36). That applies to nations too.

And since this is a Christian forum, I have every right to post what I believe from the Bible. I’m not here to push opinions, I’m here to point to what God says. You can call it religion, but the truth is only Christ changes hearts, and without Him no amount of money or policy will save a nation.

The Bible never says that the answer is found in quick fixes or political swings. Sin had been entrenched in Israel for generations. The Lord patiently warned them over and over again before judgment came (2 Kings 17:7–23). The people enjoyed blessing when Hezekiah or Josiah initiated reform. When they turned back to sin, the judgment came in full force. There is no other way than to repent and turn to God.

Decades of corruption, compromise, and rebellion against God cannot be undone in one day. Scripture tells us, “Be not deceived, God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” (Galatians 6:7). America is reaping what it has sown. There is only one hope, and that is not a party swing, but a turning of the nation back to the Lord. Men and women may set policy, but only Christ can change hearts. Without repentance, no election or new law will put things right. Keeping the Bible out of the conversation is exactly why we are where we are. When leaders and people push Scripture aside, they open the door for lies, corruption, and destruction. Psalm 33:12 says, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” The opposite is just as true, when a nation rejects Him, it invites judgment.

 

[HealthyShape]

You’re missing the point.

I think you are missing the point if this thread. This is not about any kind of preaching and trying to convert somebody, here. This is about the economic issues people face today.

If you are insisting that it is caused by the rebellion against God, then no - quite a few of nations that are much less Christian than the USA have a better economy.

 

[Rockerduck]

This is not about religion, but about economy. A religious nation can be dirt poor and a non-religious or a non-Christian nation can prosper, economically.

The USA is a Christian nation no matter leaders say. All across this country are so many churches that you can't be anywhere without seeing one. Its the worship of God in this country that made is the best in the world. No country can prosper without the blessing of God. Even today with the tariffs, China has to buy food from the USA to feed their people. The countries that did proper, like England, Netherlands, and Germany, let so many Muslim people in their countries that they are in an economic downturn and facing protests from citizens to get rid of immigrants. Mosques are replacing churches in those countries.

 

[Bob]

I think you are missing the point if this thread. This is not about any kind of preaching and trying to convert somebody, here. This is about the economic issues people face today.

If you are insisting that it is caused by the rebellion against God, then no - quite a few of nations that are much less Christian than the USA have a better economy.

Thank you for your comments.

Related: there is rampant drug use in the U.S. and a concomitant rise is drug deaths (both of which are felt as economic problems). Currently, the emphasis is on preventing the large influx of deadly drugs (and on having emergency medicines to prevent death from overdoses).

But isn’t the root cause, all those who are drawn to drugs for ”the buzz” or to escape from the struggle of life? As is often the case, isn’t a nation-wide spiritual reawakening—embracing Christianity—the best long-term solution?

Blessings.

 

[HealthyShape]

As is often the case, isn’t a nation-wide spiritual reawakening—embracing Christianity—the best long-term solution?

You said "as is often the case". Can you give me three examples of how a nation-wide spiritual reawakening fixed nation-wide economy?

 

[jaybird]

Many people in the US have shared online that, they cannot afford to buy groceries or that the price of groceries are shocking. However, this is not the right focus. Prices of groceries in the USA are lower than in Europe, even lower than in low income countries in Europe.

Why is it that Americans can not live comfortably with basically 2x-3x higher paychecks than Europeans, while the prices of groceries are lower than in Europe? Because of absurdly astronomical prices of housing, insurance, education and healthcare. These are the real problems that cause the financial problems and push people into loans and debts.

i lived in Europe (Germany) 5 years, they get payed more, work less and get 2 months vacation a year. plus shopping for food in germany is like shopping at the all natural grocery story here which you pay more.
i also dont understand what housing has to do with paying $50 dollars for 2 small bags of groceries that should cost 10. if your mortgage is $500 or 1500 your still over paying $40 for the food