Zuzanna, I listened to some of the purgatory tape, and you can see I did not take time to translate it. It, for me, was not worth the time. There were some good scriptures in there, but you can get these, by reading the Bible. Also, in the Satanism video, you might notice I left out what the Satanist said; it was blasphemous; so I was not going to repeat it. We need to evaluate what is worthy of our attention and our time. But I might take a peek at the homosexuality thing and see what's there.
Ok, I'm checking out the first Christian response to homosexuality video. They have a man who is Christian to speak along with a guy who is actively involved with another guy, and this show is on Valentine's day when the two guys are celebrating their relationship; so his emotional juices "might" be going, about whatever the Christian guy has to say. lolololololol But he's managing to keep quiet and look calm while the Christian is saying the following things I plan to write. And I plan to put, in blue, comments that come while I listen and write his things.
On the first tape, starting at 5:22 > "Before I get into the heart of my comments, I want to make a few things very clear. I'm not speaking from the vantage point of moral superiority as a heterosexual to a homosexual, but as someone who fully believes that we all depend on the mercy and grace of God, believing with all my heart that Jesus shed His blood for homosexual and heterosexual alike. I also believe personally that heterosexuals have done more to destroy the family, than have any gay activists." < 5:51
And if anyone has any problem with gay people, they might consider that heterosexually married people possibly helped to produce those people who are gay, by being such terrible examples to their children so they did not find out how to love, and then were deeply hurt and damaged and degraded enough so they would be able to become gay and abortionists and alcoholics and predators, etc. So, Jesus would say, perhaps, "Let the one without sin cast the first stone." If you don't like gay stuff, stop the divorcing and the arguing and complaining witch helps produce divorces and damaged kids who do not know how to relate in love and marriage. "Do all things without complaining and disputing," (Philippians 2:14) This is a basic rule of how to love.
5:51 > "And I'm ashamed of the rampant pornography, divorce, and scandals that have plagued the heterosexual church in recent years; so there's no self-righteousness, here. And I'll also say there'll be no gay bashing on my lips, because there's no homo hatred in my heart; what you see is what you get. You can also be assured that, before preparing these notes, I spent many hours listening. I've listened to those who say they are ex-ex-gays, to those who say they love Jesus and have found spiritual affirmation in their homosexuality, to the gay leaders who have appealed to me to grant them what they consider basic human rights." < 6:26
They would be right to start all over again, and see how they have not been shown how to love, and only Jesus can give us a new beginning, and learn how to love: "'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29) And there are heterosexual people who also need to start over and find out how to love. There are ones heterosexual who are perverted from love; perversion from love is much more damaging and bad, than "just" perversion from sex. So, I find it interesting how it can seem so many people are giving so much attention to how certain people are perverted, below the belt, instead of first and mainly dealing with how so many others are in their hearts perverted from real love. Ones can *decoy* themselves away from what they really need to be dealing with!
6:48 > "And I might also point out that my personal sympathies and leanings are often with those who challenge the religious system and take on the establishment. So, the counter-cultural appeal of the Gospel resonates deeply with me. I'm all for healthy revolution of the church; let dead orthodoxy be exposed when it departs from the Gospel. Now, a Christian response to homosexuality is the question before us, tonight; a Christian response to homosexuality must fully agree with the spirit and attitude of Jesus, Himself, meaning that as followers of Jesus we must be willing to put aside our own interests and lay down our lives to help a hurting world, overcoming evil with good and hatred with love. And if homosexual practice is in fact sinful in God's eyes . . . a point we will talk about shortly, then we must not only proclaim the truth, we must give ourselves to reach out to gays and lesbians, with compassion and longsuffering, understanding the tremendous rejection many have experienced, the inner conflicts many have dealt with, especially if they also tell us that they're people of faith. And the Christian response to homosexuality must also look at the bigger picture, not just focus on a few proof texts. They must combine mercy and justice, inclusion and standards, sensitivity to human hearts, but even greater sensitivity to God's heart. They must remember that Jesus who is perfect in holiness reached out to the disenfranchised, to the ones that society was afraid to touch." < 8:14
