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John Zain

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Please critique this for me. Many thanks in advance.

What the Bible says about who is called to eternal salvation


The number of verses that I have found where the point is taught is indicated by (nn).

God is everywhere (that He desires to be), and He knows and sees everything (10)

God knows peoples’ hearts (7)

God knows the type of people He wants to have with Him in Heaven (25+)

God chooses and calls His “elect” (16)

God made much of the the Old Testament quite unbelievable,
and He made the gospel of Jesus Christ foolishness to most people (50+)

God says all men are sinners, are separated from Him, and are spiritually blind (10+)

God the Father gives His “elect” to Jesus, which enables them to believe in Him (10)

God makes sure that those who believe in Jesus gain eternal life (10+)

The above is what the Bible clearly teaches.

Notes:

1) Almighty God orchestrated 1500 years of man’s history in order to have
His precious Scriptures written, and to have His precious Messiah come forth.
Warning: Don’t think that God failed to preserve what He wanted to preserve.

2) After God gave the Ten Commandments and the Law to the Israelites,
they were given every opportunity and advantage to know Him, be obedient, etc.,
but they stirred up God’s wrath by continually rebelling, sinning, being disobedient,
and so He scattered them to the four corners of the earth.
All other nations were heathens who worshipped idols, other gods, etc.
So it is unknown who will make it to Heaven from the Old Testament time period.
 

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Please critique this for me. Many thanks in advance.

What the Bible says about who is called to eternal salvation


The number of verses that I have found where the point is taught is indicated by (nn).

God is everywhere (that He desires to be), and He knows and sees everything (10)

God knows peoples’ hearts (7)

God knows the type of people He wants to have with Him in Heaven (25+)

God chooses and calls His “elect” (16)

God made much of the the Old Testament quite unbelievable,
and He made the gospel of Jesus Christ foolishness to most people (50+)

God says all men are sinners, are separated from Him, and are spiritually blind (10+)

God the Father gives His “elect” to Jesus, which enables them to believe in Him (10)

God makes sure that those who believe in Jesus gain eternal life (10+)

The above is what the Bible clearly teaches.

Notes:

1) Almighty God orchestrated 1500 years of man’s history in order to have
His precious Scriptures written, and to have His precious Messiah come forth.
Warning: Don’t think that God failed to preserve what He wanted to preserve.

2) After God gave the Ten Commandments and the Law to the Israelites,
they were given every opportunity and advantage to know Him, be obedient, etc.,
but they stirred up God’s wrath by continually rebelling, sinning, being disobedient,
and so He scattered them to the four corners of the earth.
All other nations were heathens who worshipped idols, other gods, etc.
So it is unknown who will make it to Heaven from the Old Testament time period.

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You wrote:
"All other nations were heathens who worshipped idols, other gods, etc.
So it is unknown who will make it to Heaven from the Old Testament time period."


Your statement is pretty generic, therefore a generic agreement is deserved.
In actual fact, there were people on the edges of the Hebrew civilization who were saved.

The clearest example of this is the book of Ruth. Ruth became saved by faith as an adult. She was not born into the club as Hebrews typically were. There are a number of other examples, and even a few Hebraic laws about adding foreigners to the religion. The bottom line is that the O.T. is pretty much in line with the new. One is saved by faith.

There is a big problem with understanding salvation if you look too closely at the nation of Israel and the Jewish people. Mostly they refused it, even in the O.T. If it were possible for the Almighty to become frustrated with anything, the Jews would get the award on that one. They've been a thorn in the side of God and man since the days of Abraham. On the plus side, it has been a benefit of the gentiles.

Suffice it to say, your reference to peoples and nations is correct. There has NEVER been a nation or a people that God chose to shepard personally as the Hebrew people and the nation of Israel. No other nation has such a status.

May I be so bold as to say that it's probably because none other needs it as they do.
 

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Please critique this for me. Many thanks in advance.

What the Bible says about who is called to eternal salvation


This digs into the old Sardisean church age teachings..

Seven Churches

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. - Revelation 3:5

And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.- Exodus 32:33

And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.- Acts 16:31



The book of life is the express property of the Heavenly Father. To get your name written there you must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and from there grow in the faith and knowledge of Jesus Christ. My gut feeling is that this post is going to drag us back into the Sardisean teachings of Calvinism, in which the message to this church was...

I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. - Acts 3:1