Israel attacks Iran nuclear enrichment at Natanz, US bombs Iran nuclear weapon sites

[David in NJ]

I asked an AI about the weapon and the rock geologically speaking....as well as the multiple bombs used. And there's some discrepancy whether it was 12 or 14 bombs that hit the Forham facility due to another site getting hit with something akin to 2 bunker busters. Fordham facility is 90 Meters under the rock.

Essentially, the ones dropped might have had specialty fuses that can detect empty pockets in the rock. (Dolomite and limestone)
The broken rock and blasting might have created pockets which would allow the successive bombs go deeper if it hit a pocket.

The bomb went 40 meters into the rock by all estimated accounts and the initial blast radius would be 50 meters.
BUT
We did not see a large crater on top of the hill....just entry holes and a depression. Meaning that the energy from the blast went the path of least resistance (like a shaped charge works) and the depression is the result.

It took the Iranians a whole year to carve Forham facility out of the rock....
And one day to lose it forever..

Whatever was there is gone. Looks kinda cool when blasting. The ground becomes liquid and looks like waves you would see on a lake.

This is what i am highly suspicious of = political puffery

• Trump's post on Truth Social: "Monumental Damage was done to all Nuclear sites in Iran, as shown by satellite images. Obliteration is an accurate term! The white structure shown is deeply imbedded into the rock, with even its roof well below ground level, and completely shielded from flame. The biggest damage took place far below ground level. Bullseye!!!"

 

[JohnDB]

Thank you for this additional info = much appreciated

i am cautious because we both know that the news can skew things whichever way they are pressured

Either the pics are highly intelligent fakes or they are real. Fakes wouldn't last long as someone would call them out.

Which is the problem with AI photography.

Sure pics can be faked....no doubt about it. But the person making the fakes using AI often has to know about physics to create a more realistic picture. And bomb damage from bunker busters is not exactly readily available...especially for this scenario. So since AI is kinda dumb in some ways. The pics seem to be genuine.

Then last night there was something Amis with Iran. Only ONE (intercepted) ballistic missile fired. (Which the caused IDF jets to hunt down the launcher)

Which makes me believe that only 12 were used at Fordham and 2 others were used to seal the underground missile city bunker that houses so many of their missiles. (Huge underground complex full of missiles)

Iran is losing their ability to communicate with soldiers in the field or anyone else. And the people who can give the orders keep dying (targeted assassination attacks).

Is Iran going to surrender? They had a brutal night last night as Israel pounded them unmercifully. Anything that was IRGC or Government was considered a target in Tehran and destroyed.

Tehran is gonna look like Gaza soon enough.
They need to surrender.
But surrendering to Israel means declaring Mohammed was a liar and false prophet. (For Muslims)
Which makes me watch this situation with rapt attention. Iran is a theocracy....all centered on the Muslim religion.

 

[SavedInHim]

He has Airforce One and his own blinged out plane. As if He would accept such a plane that the Iranians would rig with all sorts of malfunctions, viruses and undetectable failures. Iran has already attempted twice to assassinate Him and their likelybwill be more now.
A statement like yours, intended to be funny, suggests to me you don't like Trump. Solomon was richer! I suppose you do not think God can use rich men to achieve His purpose? He is sovereign and btw, has appointed Him to His position. Read Rom. 13:1-2

I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump. God's in control of everything. He raises up a lot of people to serve his purposes. Not every person He raises up is good. Just because God allowed Trump to be elected, doesn't mean Trump has good intentions for the USA, or is even a capable governor of this country. God raised up Hitler too.

 

[Triumph1300]

Iranian foreign secretary is having talks with Putin.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump. God's in control of everything. He raises up a lot of people to serve his purposes. Not every person He raises up is good. Just because God allowed Trump to be elected, doesn't mean Trump has good intentions for the USA, or is even a capable governor of this country. God raised up Hitler too.

His intentions are all good: safety ( closing the borders and deporting criminals and eliminating terrorist threats - including Iran), prosperity, employment, health, etc. He is exposing and dismantling the Deep State, (a corrupt group with a globalist/socialist agenda), exposing fraud, waste and down-sizing Big Government. Which one of those things are you against?

 

[Triumph1300]

By SavedinHim: "I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump."
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On this forum it seems to be the law....

Anyhow.... the turmoil will escalate, innocent people are going to die, on the Iranian side and the American side.
Plus people from all the other nations involved.
Sad.

Parents will be in tears when body bags arrive in America and other countries.
And many (not all) Christians seem to support this war mongering.

And both sides are worshipping their great political leaders.

 

[JohnDB]

By SavedinHim: "I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump."
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On this forum it seems to be the law....

Anyhow.... the turmoil will escalate, innocent people are going to die, on the Iranian side and the American side.
Plus people from all the other nations involved.
Sad.

Parents will be in tears when body bags arrive in America and other countries.
And many (not all) Christians seem to support this war mongering.

And both sides are worshipping their great political leaders.

War mongering?
I'm thinking that phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.

Iran is a pariah state. Sponsoring terrorism against America and Israel. Killing our citizens at every turn....
But yet America and Israrl are war mongering?

We didn't start this fight but we definitely know how to end it.

 

[Triumph1300]

I'm thinking that phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.

If you read the different discussions on this forum, a Christian attitude is hard to find in regards to the situation in Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, Iran and several other locations.
Many calls for killing, destruction and not much for sending the Gospel message.
I guess we should wipe them all out and once that's done we spread some Gospel Messages to whoever is still alive.

The truth is, once they are wiped out, the mess is left.
Just like it happened after previous actions.

And they all claim "God is on our side".

 

[David in NJ]

If you read the different discussions on this forum, a Christian attitude is hard to find in regards to the situation in Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, Iran and several other locations.
Many calls for killing, destruction and not much for sending the Gospel message.

What about this "Christian" attitude: Zecharian 14:1-4

Behold, the day of the Lord is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the Lord will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives,
Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
And the Mount of Olives shall be split in two,
From east to west,
Making a very large valley;
Half of the mountain shall move toward the north
And half of it toward the south.

 

[JohnDB]

If you read the different discussions on this forum, a Christian attitude is hard to find in regards to the situation in Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, Iran and several other locations.
Many calls for killing, destruction and not much for sending the Gospel message.
I guess we should wipe them all out and once that's done we spread some Gospel Messages to whoever is still alive.

The truth is, once they are wiped out, the mess is left.
Just like it happened after previous actions.

And they all claim "God is on our side".

Ummmm
The war in Ukraine was started and fed by Democrats and the MIC. Not MAGA or his followers...
Very systematically fed and allowed to happen. However, Trump, during his first term did nothing to stop it either....I'm not sure he really knew what was going on either... but again he still owns some of the blame for practically ignoring the situation and allowing it to fester out of control.

He should have spanked Russia 8 years ago and told them to knock it off. All he did was give Ukraine some mortars and called it a day.

Biden's administration had plenty of opportunity to stop the invasion but again did nothing....they wanted the war...and telegraphing to Russia (by inaction) that they could invade was dumb and war mongering. It was all about covering up Hunter Biden's crimes and other bits of nasty things going on there.

Still does not excuse Russia from setting up "secret" settlements, buying off politicians to where they could buy elections and then declaring that they prefer Russia and became separatist...

 

[Triumph1300]

Zecharian 14:1-4

Are you suggesting Donald Trump might be the Antichrist with the healed wound (his ear) on his head?
I hope not.

Yes, the event you posted will come to pass.

But that certainly does not mean that Christians should join "the world" promoting war and forget about bringing the gospel message.

 

[David in NJ]

Are you suggesting Donald Trump might be the Antichrist with the healed wound (his ear) on his head?
I hope not.

Yes, the event you posted will come to pass.

But that certainly does not mean that Christians should join "the world" promoting war and forget about bringing the gospel message.

How will God draw all nations to battle against Jerusalem?

Could HE be doing that even now?

 

[Triumph1300]

Could HE be doing that even now?

Who knows? Only God knows.
It does not mean Christians should support violence and promote war.
It means support spreading the Gospel as much as possible.
And that seems to be missing on this Christian Forum's political threads.

 

[David in NJ]

Who knows? Only God knows.
It does not mean Christians should support violence and promote war.
It means support spreading the Gospel as much as possible.
And that seems to be missing on this Christian Forum's political threads.

What if God is currently directing Israel and the USA to take out nuclear missiles(building) from a madman who wants to destroy Israel.

 

[Triumph1300]

What if God is currently directing Israel and the USA to take out nuclear missiles(building) from a madman who wants to destroy Israel.

That's God's bus. if that were true.

But no reason to stop spreading the Gospel and promote war and rejoice over war activity such as is happening here.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump. God's in control of everything. He raises up a lot of people to serve his purposes. Not every person He raises up is good. Just because God allowed Trump to be elected, doesn't mean Trump has good intentions for the USA, or is even a capable governor of this country. God raised up Hitler too.

Not true at all, God did not creat Hitler at all in fact, Hitler was totaly a creation of mans works in fact !
WW2 was all planed years before hand in fact !

Anyone who says God was the workings of Hitler, is in fact a Satanist !

 

[David in NJ]

That's God's bus. if that were true.

But no reason to stop spreading the Gospel and promote war and rejoice over war activity such as is happening here.

In fact scripture does show us that God is watching over the affairs of the nations especially when it comes to war and MOST especially = NUCLEAR War/Attacks

i have only read a few posts here and i do not see anyone denying the Gospel.

 

[David in NJ]

I didn't realize there was a law that says I have to like Trump. God's in control of everything. He raises up a lot of people to serve his purposes. Not every person He raises up is good. Just because God allowed Trump to be elected, doesn't mean Trump has good intentions for the USA, or is even a capable governor of this country. God raised up Hitler too.

so true and few SEE

 

[Triumph1300]

anyone denying the Gospel.

I did not say that.
I was talking about the political posts.

 

[David in NJ]

I did not say that.
I was talking about the political posts.

Well, it is a political thread............right!