Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

[pandaflower]

Thanks for confirming your inability to provide evidentiary links to posts affirming your bogus allegations.

When you post excerpts of scripture showing God killed
Hebrews/Jews,and then say God, and Jesus, are antisemitic, you
are the proof.

There's nothing bogus in recognizing the antisemitic folk here.
Those who side with Hamas, who condemn Israel,etc....

 

[WPM]

When you post excerpts of scripture showing God killed
Hebrews/Jews,and then say God, and Jesus, are antisemitic, you
are the proof.

There's nothing bogus in recognizing the antisemitic folk here.
Those who side with Hamas, who condemn Israel,etc....

In your estimation, is current ethnic Christ-rejecting Israel God's chosen people?

 

[pandaflower]

In your estimation, is current ethnic Christ-rejecting Israel God's chosen people?

What do you say?

 

[covenantee]

When you post excerpts of scripture showing God killed
Hebrews/Jews,and then say God, and Jesus, are antisemitic, you
are the proof.

There's nothing bogus in recognizing the antisemitic folk here.
Those who side with Hamas, who condemn Israel,etc....

Proof of what?

Christ condemned Israel long ago. Matthew 21:43; Matthew 23:13-38; John 8:44

You are an advocate of what Christ condemned.

Your allegations of "antisemitic" identify you as a proponent of Israel's virulently racist antichrist zionism.

Tell us what "antisemitic" means.

 

[WPM]

What do you say?

In your estimation, is current ethnic Christ-rejecting Israel God's chosen people?

 

[Scott Downey]

@ rwb

Scott…
Look again…
Rev19:
Rev 20:
Rev21:

Jesus Returns Before the new Earth.

On earth is “unsaved”… believing mortals…a remnant…they live, Marry, reproduce, establish nations, etc. like now, except they All believe…Satan nor any fallen angels are on earth…
Jesus’ Kingdom is Abraham’s promised land, including Jerusalem, where king David’s everlasting throne is, and where Jesus will rule the world from, with his holy servants and saints.
For 1,000 years, generations of men will live and die, believing, building, trading, prospering, kings of nations pilgrimaging to Jerusalem, hearing Ihe Lords instruction how kings should rule… there is peace among the nations…everyone prospers…

Nearing the latter years getting close to the 1,000 year mark…then, like now, generations, who have everything, without building, without struggles…( know everything / ha!) and kings, will fall away from the “pilgrimage”, no need for the Lord Jesus King…and 1,000 year mark Satan and his demons are unbound to roam the earth… again influence men Against The KING Lord Jesus…tickling their ears…convincing them to fight against Jesus’ Kingdom…

Then will be fulfilled ALL nations shall come Against ISRAEL.

Instantly they are Destroyed by Fire.
(holy Angels and fallen angels shall battle in the air.)
Fallen angels shall be defeated and cast into the LOF where they shall remain alive forever.

Thereafter… is the new heaven and new earth… with only believing inhabitants.

Glory to God,
Taken

Ok, but if Christ were on earth today, as you say HE will be after He comes back, He would not be our great High Priest, and God swore To Christ He is a priest forever, so I cannot imagine Christ being on this earth again in any capacity.

Sorry but the scriptures do not actually allow for it, to say so is logically inconsistent. We have the scriptures that tell us what will happen and what won't. You do know that in the last days, people will believe in myths regarding the faith, visions, not holding fast to Christ and the apostle's doctrines.

Hebrews 8
1 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, 2 a Minister of the [a]sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.

3 For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer. 4 For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; 5 who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” 6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For Christ to be the mediator, He has to be where He is right now reigning in Glory with the Father.
Christ has this job to do until the end. as described also in 1 Cor 15.

On the last day, at the end, then is the resurrection and the judgment and Christ does what??

1 Corinthians 15

20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

v25, that reign is at the right hand of the Father in Heaven
v24, at the end, Christ 'delivers the kingdom to the Father'

After all things are put under Him, which we do not see yet, as death is not yet destroyed, then the Son will be subject again to the Father.
That only happens at the end, the new earth, and the new Jerusalem and heaven is on the new earth with God and men dwelling together.

 

[Scott Downey]

Revelation 21 sure seems to show the new earth and the new heaven coming together as God is then dwelling together with man in the new Jerusalem, and it descends from heaven onto the new earth. The separation is removed between them for the new earth and the new heaven, and that is forever and ever.

1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

The Glory of the New Jerusalem​

22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine [l]in it, for the [m]glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. 24 And the nations [n]of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor [o]into it. 25 Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). 26 And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into [p]it. 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything [q]that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.

 

[rwb]

@ rwb

Scott…
Look again…
Rev19:
Rev 20:
Rev21:

Jesus Returns Before the new Earth.

On earth is “unsaved”… believing mortals…a remnant…they live, Marry, reproduce, establish nations, etc. like now, except they All believe…Satan nor any fallen angels are on earth…
Jesus’ Kingdom is Abraham’s promised land, including Jerusalem, where king David’s everlasting throne is, and where Jesus will rule the world from, with his holy servants and saints.
For 1,000 years, generations of men will live and die, believing, building, trading, prospering, kings of nations pilgrimaging to Jerusalem, hearing Ihe Lords instruction how kings should rule… there is peace among the nations…everyone prospers…

Nearing the latter years getting close to the 1,000 year mark…then, like now, generations, who have everything, without building, without struggles…( know everything / ha!) and kings, will fall away from the “pilgrimage”, no need for the Lord Jesus King…and 1,000 year mark Satan and his demons are unbound to roam the earth… again influence men Against The KING Lord Jesus…tickling their ears…convincing them to fight against Jesus’ Kingdom…

Then will be fulfilled ALL nations shall come Against ISRAEL.

Instantly they are Destroyed by Fire.
(holy Angels and fallen angels shall battle in the air.)
Fallen angels shall be defeated and cast into the LOF where they shall remain alive forever.

Thereafter… is the new heaven and new earth… with only believing inhabitants.

Glory to God,
Taken

Where in these chapters or any other does Scripture ever say Christ returns physically to THIS earth?

Also where do you read there are still unsaved believing mortal men/women to be saved after the seventh/last trumpet begins to sound the second coming of Christ in the air?

Yours is the typical dispensational doctrine built upon man's assumptions/opinions even guesses that finds ZERO support of biblical TRUTH! The Kingdom of God has NEVER been limited (not even for one thousand years) to the promised land of Old. The Kingdom of God of Old, after the cross and today is found within believers throughout the whole earth through the Spirit of Christ in us.

You're fixated with physical flesh and blood and therefore appear NOT to understand the Kingdom of God has NEVER been and NEVER shall be a physical Kingdom on THIS earth! The Kingdom of God that is not NOW of this world, because the Kingdom of God is NOT physical, but spiritual. God created this earth to be the habitation of physical flesh & blood, and the Kingdom of God does NOT consist of flesh and blood because His Kingdom cannot be physically seen, or physically entered, because flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God!

 

[Scott Downey]

1 Corinthians 15, and Revletaion 21, happens at the end. The end includes the burning of the old earth and the old heavens.

When Christ returns is the resurrection and the judgement. There is transition taking place, to accomplish that requires the end of the OLD and the beginning of the NEW.

23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.

25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death.

27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

 

[Taken]

Sorry but the scriptures do not actually allow for it, to say so is logically inconsistent.

The Scripture not ONLY “ALLOWS”… what you logically reject…
But expressly state His 1,000 year reign…
And
Further notifies its readers: The Logical Mind can not discern Spiritual things.

Plainly…To the point in your own words:
Why do you Reject Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign?

 

[Scott Downey]

The Scripture not ONLY “ALLOWS”… what you logically reject…
But expressly state His 1,000 year reign…
And
Further notifies its readers: The Logical Mind can not discern Spiritual things.

Plainly…To the point in your own words:
Why do you Reject Christ Jesus’ 1,000 year reign?

Where is this reigning though?
It is in heaven, Christ reins in heaven seated at the Father's right hand until the END when all things are put under His feet.
When the END comes, it is referring to the end of all sorts of situational things related to this old creation....

Then we get God saying this.

3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

6 And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. 7 He who overcomes [d]shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8 But the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

 

[Scott Downey]

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

Christ is going to remain in Heaven until the restoration of ALL THINGS, which Peter tells us about in 2 Peter 3, which is the New Earth and New heavens in which dwells righteousness. There is no other thing like a temporary restoration.
You would have Christ going back and forth a lot from heaven to earth and back again otherwise.

So yeah, He won't be coming to reign on earth 1000 years before that restoration of ALL THINGS, it does not fit the scriptures.
Peter ought to know!

Acts 3
17 “Yet now, brethren, I know that you did it in ignorance, as did also your rulers. 18 But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. 19 Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord,

20 and that He may send [c]Jesus Christ, who was [d]preached to you before,

21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began.

22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’

 

[Taken]

Where is this reigning though?

On Earth.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Scripture says when Christ returns, yes does those kinds of things, but it is the New earth, not this old earth
The New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven onto the NEW earth.
The only future for this old earth is to be burned on the Day of the Lord Jesus, when He comes back.

That is after He has been here for 1000 years. that is at teh white throne judgment when eternity is "set to begin again."

 

[Taken]

Where in these chapters or any other does Scripture ever say Christ returns physically to THIS earth?

I never said “Christ “physically returns to THIS Earth?

Do you think there are “other” Earths?

Doe you think men of “THIS” Earth See Spirits?

Do you think Jesus IS God?

Do you think God is a Spirit?

Do you think Jesus is a Spirit?

Do you think Scripture is True?

Dot think Jesus shall return to “THIS” Earth?

Rev 1:
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Also where do you read there are still unsaved believing mortal men/women to be saved after the seventh/last trumpet begins to sound the second coming of Christ in the air?

Who said I read what you are asking?

Yours is the typical dispensational doctrine built upon man's assumptions/opinions even guesses …

Yours is typical of a gaslighter… who thinks an other is accountable for what “THEY” did not say!

…the Kingdom of God has NEVER been and NEVER shall be a physical Kingdom on THIS earth!

So you say…. NEVER, NEVER.

Matt 6
[10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Rev 21:
[1] And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
[2] And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
[3] And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Rev 21:
[10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

 

[pandaflower]

Where in these chapters or any other does Scripture ever say Christ returns physically to THIS earth?

What religion do you follow?

Zechariah 14:4
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

The Second Coming of Christ | Moody Bible Institute

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ will victoriously return to earth again. God's Word says the second coming of Jesus will be personal, visible, and glorious.

www.moodybible.org

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Right?
You didn't read his OP carefully.

"No Jesus will not be reigning as a king on this earth, not then, not now or in the future."

You need to read his OP more carefully. He indicated that Jesus reigns now in heaven over His heavenly kingdom which is not of this world. He was just saying He is not reigning on earth and that's obviously true because He is in heaven. His kingdom is heavenly in nature and not earthly (of this world) and we're in it now. He didn't say otherwise. That doesn't mean he was saying that Jesus does not reign now at all, if that's what you're thinking. What I was agreeing with is that He reigns now and He reigns from heaven. His kingdom is not of this world, it's of heaven. He reigns at the right hand of the Father over all things, including every name that is named, according to Paul in this passage...

Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, 23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Do you agree with what Paul wrote here which indicates that Jesus reigns at the right hand of the Father "Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named" with "all things under his feet" while being "the head over all things to the church"?

Fascinating discussions here.
Christian Identity racists are openly Antisemitic, and others,or the same ones, open discussions to state the Bible is false,doesn't say what is written, is not meant to be understood as written, and/or the one that inspired its creation lied.

What are you talking about here? Be more specific.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What religion do you follow?

Zechariah 14:4
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

The Second Coming of Christ | Moody Bible Institute

The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ will victoriously return to earth again. God's Word says the second coming of Jesus will be personal, visible, and glorious.

www.moodybible.org

He's a Christian. How about yourself?

How do you reconcile your understanding of Zechariah 14:4 with this passage...

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes, we read you slander God the first time.

My prior post never stated those things about God,who was Jesus.

I observed there are Christian Identity persons here who are open antisemitic.

Now, you're going off ,and using scripture to do so. Though it is obvious you never read the whole of the Numbers chapter you earlier referenced.

Your behavior must be in keeping with the rules here.

As I said,it takes guts to admit being CI.

Do you think that Jesus was being antisemitic when calling unbelieving Jews like the scribes and Pharisees "hypocrites", "blind guides", "fools and blind", "serpents", and a "generation of vipers" (see Matthew 23)?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

When you post excerpts of scripture showing God killed
Hebrews/Jews,and then say God, and Jesus, are antisemitic, you
are the proof.

There's nothing bogus in recognizing the antisemitic folk here.
Those who side with Hamas, who condemn Israel,etc....

Who here sides with Hamas and condemns Israel? Name some names.