Jesus, Where is Your Kingdom?

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Rocky Wiley

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Floyd said:
From Rocky:
Therefore he is King of Israel, and we and the Jews are the children of Israel. There is no reason to return for he is prepared to save whosoever will, Jew and Gentile.

This wrong Rocky!
Floyd.

See: Replacement Theology

Floyd.
Floyd,

You wrong!

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
 

Floyd

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Floyd, on 14 Apr 2014 - 07:16 AM, said:
Floyd said:
From Rocky:
Therefore he is King of Israel, and we and the Jews are the children of Israel. There is no reason to return for he is prepared to save whosoever will, Jew and Gentile.

This wrong Rocky!
Floyd.

See: Replacement Theology

Floyd.
Floyd,

You wrong!

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.



From Floyd.
I am not sure we are on the same page here Rocky.
Would you be so kind as to define your above statements.
I agree of course with the Acts2:21 statement; however when you reply with your thinking; we can move on.
Floyd.
 

Arnie Manitoba

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Floyd .... you need to learn to use the quote button when you quote someone .... otherwise the way you do it jumbles everything together and we cannot tell who is saying what.

The quote button in the bottom right corner .
 

Floyd

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Arnie Manitoba said:
Floyd .... you need to learn to use the quote button when you quote someone .... otherwise the way you do it jumbles everything together and we cannot tell who is saying what.

The quote button in the bottom right corner .
Thanks Arnie; Floyd.
 

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Shalom, keras.

Continuing on....


keras said:
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Also regarding the prophesies about the AoD in Daniel - none of these were completely fulfilled by A4E in 163 BCE. And why does Jesus say in Mark 13:14 WHEN you see the AoD standing were it ought not.... Anyway if you want to say [wrongly] that it was fulfilled in 70 AD, THEN THAT IS A DUAL FULFILLMENT. 163BC and 70 AD were two partial fulfilments, a careful reading of Daniel makes it clear that neither of those 'desolations' fully fit the prophesies.
So we await the unfolding of the end time events as so comprehensively prophesied throughout the Bible.
Actually, Daniel 11 WAS fulfilled circa 163 B.C.E. and following! Part of chapter 11 was not only about Antiochus IV Epiphanes and his abomination of desolation, but was also about Caesar Augustus and Herod the Great! Furthermore, the prophecy continues into the first four verses of chapter 12 and is also talking about the Roman Empire when Yeshua` (Jesus) comes on the scene. And, yes, ALL of the prophecies found in chapters 11 and 12 are COMPLETELY FULFILLED!

Yeshua` Himself also fulfilled much of Daniel 9:26-27 by confirming (strengthening) the DAVIDIC covenant for a Seven, in the middle of the Seven being cut off and causing the sacrifice and the gifts to cease by satisfying God's requirement for a sacrifice, and for the overspreading of the PEOPLE'S abominations, leaving the household of Isra'el "desolate" (Matthew 23:38) until the consummation, that is, when they can say "Baruwkh haba' bshem YHWH" or "Welcome (to) the Comer in the authority of YHWH" (badly translated as "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the LORD"; Matthew 23:39 cf. Psalm 118:26).

It was YESHUA` who fulfilled Daniel 9:27, not some "antichrist" figure in the future!
 

Floyd

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Retrobyter said:
Shalom, keras.

Continuing on....



Actually, Daniel 11 WAS fulfilled circa 163 B.C.E. and following! Part of chapter 11 was not only about Antiochus IV Epiphanes and his abomination of desolation, but was also about Caesar Augustus and Herod the Great! Furthermore, the prophecy continues into the first four verses of chapter 12 and is also talking about the Roman Empire when Yeshua` (Jesus) comes on the scene. And, yes, ALL of the prophecies found in chapters 11 and 12 are COMPLETELY FULFILLED!

Yeshua` Himself also fulfilled much of Daniel 9:26-27 by confirming (strengthening) the DAVIDIC covenant for a Seven, in the middle of the Seven being cut off and causing the sacrifice and the gifts to cease by satisfying God's requirement for a sacrifice, and for the overspreading of the PEOPLE'S abominations, leaving the household of Isra'el "desolate" (Matthew 23:38) until the consummation, that is, when they can say "Baruwkh haba' bshem YHWH" or "Welcome (to) the Comer in the authority of YHWH" (badly translated as "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the LORD"; Matthew 23:39 cf. Psalm 118:26).

It was YESHUA` who fulfilled Daniel 9:27, not some "antichrist" figure in the future!
Not so Retro:



[SIZE=14pt]Revelation Chapter 8 V1[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]Note: As mentioned in earlier Chapters some teachers are of the opinion that the following refers to Israel only, and that "earth" refers to the land of Israel only. At the present time we do not hold that view, as there are two major happenings in Revelation, the wrath of God on the nations, and "Jacob's Trouble" on Israel.[/SIZE]

Wrath of God;

Floyd.