Jews Are Just 1/3 of Israelites?

[Keraz]

Who is the true Israel of God?
Who are the legitimate heirs of God’s promises? It cannot be just those who claim to be descendants of Jacob, such as the citizens of the modern State of Israel, or the many people groups who assert they are the ‘lost tribes’, etc.

The true Israelites of God are those individuals who meet the Covenant conditions, who by belief in God and in their moral and ethical behaviour, prove they belong to Him. 1 Peter 2:9-10
It was always possible for foreigners to become an Israelite, therefore parentage and actual descent is irrelevant:

Leviticus 19:33-34…foreigners are to be treated as native born among you…..
Isaiah 56:1-8….foreigners who give their allegiance to Me will be acceptable in My House of Prayer…..I shall add them to those who are already gathered.

Jesus said: Other sheep I must gather….John 19:16 and the Apostles made it clear that it is only by righteousness and faith that anyone is accepted into the House of Israel. Romans 9:6-9, Galatians 3:26-29, Ephesians 2:11-18
So to determine who qualifies as an Israelite person of God, we know:

1/ They cannot be determined by natural descent from Abraham, or more specifically, from Jacob. Nobody today, has proof of ancestry back to Abraham .

2/ They cannot become an Israelite by conversion to Judaism.

3/ Any person can become an Israelite of God by faith in Him, obedience to His Laws and the acceptance of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus. John 3:16-17

Jesus is the ‘root and tree trunk’ of Israel. Paul said that the promises made to Abraham were to one Person and they are all ‘yes’ in Christ. Galatians 3:16, 2 Cor. 1:20
So now all we Christians, in Christ as His friends and working with Him, are now the branches of the ‘olive tree’ of the true Israel.

Jews have been cut off, but can be grafted back, as individual Christian believers. Bible prophecy proves that only a remnant will do that. Ezekiel 6:1-14, Zechariah 13:7-9, Romans 9:27
WE Christians are all true born again people from every tribe, race, nation and language. Romans 2:28-29, Revelation 5:9-10, Isaiah 56:1-8



This truth that: all righteous Christians are the Israelites of God, Galatians 6:16, destroys the false ‘rapture to heaven’ theory. Jewish Israel have been broken off from the Olive Tree and can only be grafted back, by having Christian faith.

The prophesies about Judah, the Jewish people, are clear: only a remnant will survive. Isaiah 6:13, Luke 19:27. Romans 9:27 They have set up their own religion and refuse to acknowledge Jesus. Romans 10:1-4

It will be all the true, righteous Christian people that will inherit the holy Land and they are the people who will display God’s glory and be His witnesses to the nations, in the last few years before Jesus Returns. Ezekiel 39:21-29, Isaiah 66:18b-21, Isaiah 49:8-13, Ephesians 1:11, Romans 9:24-26

 

[Wrangler]

That's about what I expected from you.

Unable to answer a simple question.

They're descended from different tribes.

Again, so what?

If you can't tell the two apart, then you aren't going to understand much of the Bible.

Oy vey. Your understanding of history is breathtakingly myopic. Do you know that Israel was once united - as it is now?

Do you know there is such a thing as the lost tribes of Israel? What this means, in practice, is that the word "Jew" refers to what is not lost, i,.e., synonymous. I already showed the definition, where this is a sense of the word. But you seem to want to speak your own language, disregarding legitimate sense of the word being used.

 

[Wick Stick]

Do you know there is such a thing as the lost tribes of Israel? What this means, in practice, is that the word "Jew" refers to what is not lost, i,.e., synonymous. I already showed the definition, where this is a sense of the word. But you seem to want to speak your own language, disregarding legitimate sense of the word being used.

When I talked about misunderstanding the Bible? Exhibit A.

 

[Wrangler]

When I talked about misunderstanding the Bible? Exhibit A.

Guess what? Israel existed in the Bible and it exists now. You sat there is a difference but you are completely unable to explain how and how it makes a difference.

 

[Davy]

Do you know that Israel was once united - as it is now?

Do you know there is such a thing as the lost tribes of Israel?

Only someone associated with the blinded orthodox unbelieving Jews would say something like the above.

Today's Jews, especially orthodox Jews that still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah, believe that all 12 scattered tribes are returning to the state of Israel in the middle east. That idea is one of the biggest baskets of baloney the 'false Jews' of the "synagogue of Satan" have ever come up with for today's time.


Biblical and Historical FACTS:
1. the ten northern tribes of Israel were scattered first, by the kings of Assyria, about 120 years PRIOR... to the Jew's captivity to Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon. The ten tribes of Israel that dwelt in the northern holy land were completely removed, and 5 foreign pagan peoples from Babylon were placed there instead, which would be called Samaritans.

2. to this day, the ten northern tribes of Israel NEVER returned to the holy land from their captivities to Assyria and the lands of the Medes. Because of their scattering among the Gentiles, the ten northern tribes of Israel LOST... their heritage as part old Israel, which was prophesied by GOD through His prophet Hosea, their being called in Hosea the "house of Israel" and "Ephraim". But Judah (Jews) would NOT loose their heritage as part of old Israel, also GOD said through His prophet Hosea.

3. there's a multitude of Old Testament prophecies yet to be fulfilled about the future return of the ten lost tribes of the "house of Israel". Ezekiel 37 is one of the strongest examples, separately naming Judah (Jews) as one "stick", and "Joseph" (representing the head of the ten lost tribes) as another "stick". And then both sticks being joined back together in final, under ONE SHEPHERD, and David as their prince.

 

[Wrangler]

Today's Jews, especially orthodox Jews that still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah

This really forms the basis of bigotry against this religion. Guess what? Most religions still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah. This is no reason to deny who these other religionists are.

 

[Davy]

This really forms the basis of bigotry against this religion. Guess what? Most religions still reject Jesus Christ as Messiah. This is no reason to deny who these other religionists are.

So Apostle Paul's teaching about the UNBELIEF of the unbelieving Jews per Romans 11 is BIGOTRY??

The "synagogue of Satan" must love deceived brethren who think that's bigotry.

Before you throw up pep rally signs for what the orthodox unbelieving Jews believe today, you might try preaching The Gospel of Jesus Christ to them instead, before it's too late for them, that is, IF... you really care about those unbelieving Jews.

 

[Wrangler]

But the Jews aren't the same people as the Old Testament House of Israel,

So Apostle Paul's teaching about the UNBELIEF of the unbelieving Jews per Romans 11 is BIGOTRY??

Appeal to Strawman. A Christian is not a genetic affiliation and neither are Jews. Religion is not rooted in biology. One cannot give a baby a DNA test and determine which one is Christian, Islam, Hindu, etc.

 

[Davy]

Appeal to Strawman. A Christian is not a genetic affiliation and neither are Jews. Religion is not rooted in biology. One cannot give a baby a DNA test and determine which one is Christian, Islam, Hindu, etc.

Then we're back to 'reality' for a moment? that belief on Jesus Christ as The Savior is more important than being born a Jew?

Sounds like you need to go over Apostle Paul's Epistle to the Romans.

 

[PinSeeker]

"For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God" (Paul, who ethnically was very, very, very Jewish, Romans 2:28-29).

Grace and peace to all.

 

[Wrangler]

Jews Are Just 1/3 of Israelites?​

Then we're back to 'reality' for a moment? that belief on Jesus Christ as The Savior is more important than being born a Jew?

How does your post relate to the OP?

 

[quietthinker]

Jews Are Just 1/3 of Israelites?​

Is that why juice are Israel lites?

 

[Davy]

Jews Are Just 1/3 of Israelites?​

Is that why juice are Israel lites?

Not really funny bro, though it would be if it weren't anti-Semitic.

As I have shown many times before, the title of Jew originated from the name of the tribe of Judah. And it applied to those of the southern "kingdom of Judah" that dwelt in the southern part of the holy land at Judea, with its capital city of Jerusalem.

Lot of maps of the layout have the tribe of Simeon located south with Judah, but per 1 Kings 11 forward God gave 10 tribes for Jeroboam in the north to rule over, with its capital city at Samaria in the northern lands.





Only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, made up the southern "kingdom of Judah" after 1 Kings 12. It would eventually include the tribe of Levi and small remnants of the northern ten tribes that refused Jeroboam's calf idol worship in the north.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Young Wrangler can not be serious, could he ? for he clearly knows nothing of the Bible and has had some religious idiot make stupid claims and he has swallow it all. He would not know a Jew if he fell over one.

But i am sure that he is only trying to put his dumb side up in a stupid game of his, he is clearly not serious at all or is just another carnal maybe religious clown that's trying to do his best to undermine others with new age childish babbling BS. I am sure that is his intent. as no one could be so stupid. He is like claiming to be a Mechanic but clearly does not know what a spark plug is, nor does he care ! he is just idolising the cars ? and has his eyes on one rusted out heap that can never be restored.

 

[quietthinker]

Not really funny bro, though it would be if it weren't anti-Semitic.

As I have shown many times before, the title of Jew originated from the name of the tribe of Judah. And it applied to those of the southern "kingdom of Judah" that dwelt in the southern part of the holy land at Judea, with its capital city of Jerusalem.

Lot of maps of the layout have the tribe of Simeon located south with Judah, but per 1 Kings 11 forward God gave 10 tribes for Jeroboam in the north to rule over, with its capital city at Samaria in the northern lands.


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Only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, made up the southern "kingdom of Judah" after 1 Kings 12. It would eventually include the tribe of Levi and small remnants of the northern ten tribes that refused Jeroboam's calf idol worship in the north.

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ahhhhh, we need to lighten up. If we're gonna push a barrow, why settle for one with a flat tyre?

 

[Davy]

ahhhhh, we need to lighten up. If we're gonna push a barrow, why settle for one with a flat tyre?

But where I live, the barrows are smokey, so gotta' clear that up first. That's all I'm trying to do.