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JUSTIFICATION by works, grace, or faith?
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Eternally Grateful
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No scripture can contradict another part of scripture.
When God says it is grace and not works.. we can not say God did nto mean what he said.
you must interpret the parts of scripture to match..
YOU sir are not doing that
Eternally Grateful
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I am not the one causing scripture to contradict my friend
you are.
Saying I am out to lunch and not supporting your case that you do notr make scripture contradict hurts your own case.. it shows you have nothing.. and can't counter my argument
I'm not going to debate nonsense with you. The scriptures speak for themselves. Go waste your time with someone else. Goodbye
Eternally Grateful
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You Can't debate.
thats why you run
every time I call you out with those passages. you can;t respond. you run away
But thats ok.. It just shows that I am right.. thank you for supporting me
Eternally Grateful
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yet your the one who can not counter the scripture I gave you.
Call me any name you want. again, your just hurting your own case..
here I will be nice and give you a second chance..
Romans 11: 6
for if it is by grace, it is no longer of works. otherwise grace is no longer grace..
and if it is by works, it is no longer of grace, otherwise grace is no longer grace
Romans 4:4
Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
2 Timothy 1:9
who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began,
Titus 3:5
not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy (grace) He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,
Show me how I erred when I said it can only be grace or works. not both. when these passages clearly say exactly what i said..
or keep calling me names, showing you can;t answer.. and basically prove my point
Eternally Grateful
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Thank you so much for supporting me..
I will pray for you.. That God shows you the truth in a way you can answer these simple questions.
The Lamb's wife will have made herself ready. She was given garments of fine linen, which is the righteousness of the Saints. The Saints are doers of the Word, not depending on the Lord's righteousness to cover up their ongoing unrighteous deeds that defile one's garments.
Revelation 19
[6] And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
[7] Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
[8] And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
[9] And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. (KJV)
What defiles one's garments? Jesus tell us.
Mark 7
[20] And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
[21] For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
[22] Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
[23] All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. (KJV)
Revelation 19
[6] And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
[7] Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
[8] And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
[9] And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. (KJV)
What defiles one's garments? Jesus tell us.
Mark 7
[20] And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
[21] For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
[22] Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
[23] All these evil things come from within, and defile the man. (KJV)
