On another thread there was a question about man being created both male and female. The point being....to them it speaks of evolution, of mankind evolving from one thing (whatever evolutionist term the "thing" they believe we came from.) This thread doesn't concern evolution but is rather about the timing of male/female creation.
Jesus tells us....
Our choices in understanding this are:
To me it is obviously about mankind. Then it must be decided on what is meant by being made male and female. The choices....
As we are shown through the formation of Adam that he was one body made both male/female until separated then I see that mankind too began that way. So, the next question would be....when was "the beginning" in which they were created? Jesus tells us that "from the beginning of the creation God made them."
Genesis 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.
Three mentions of "His work which He made." Repetition should draw attention to what is being said. We are to notice that everything was finished, including all the host of heaven and earth. We are of that group. We were finished before the seventh day, not yet born but already created and/or made although some were to be later formed. From the beginning of creation all the hosts were made. Not in the middle, not at the end of creation but "from the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Why? So they could be "fruitful and multiply." When was that?
Genesis 1:1 In (a) the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
11 Peter 3:5-8 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Psalm 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
Psalm 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath He given to the children of men.
Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, Thy Word is settled in heaven.
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2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Isaiah 51:16 And I have put My words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art My people
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Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
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Jesus tells us....
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created He them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Our choices in understanding this are:
1. It is about the man Adam (being them, which includes Eve) being made. Except that Adam, from whom Eve was taken, was formed, not created.
2. It is about mankind, also named Adam, being "them" who were made in the beginning.
2. It is about mankind, also named Adam, being "them" who were made in the beginning.
To me it is obviously about mankind. Then it must be decided on what is meant by being made male and female. The choices....
1. There was mankind and they were created as one being which housed both male and female, as was the case of Adam.
2. The "them" used in speaking of mankind is about just that....mankind and they were created male and female...not male and female in one body. But rather God created them as one or the other....separate bodies, separate creations
.2. The "them" used in speaking of mankind is about just that....mankind and they were created male and female...not male and female in one body. But rather God created them as one or the other....separate bodies, separate creations
As we are shown through the formation of Adam that he was one body made both male/female until separated then I see that mankind too began that way. So, the next question would be....when was "the beginning" in which they were created? Jesus tells us that "from the beginning of the creation God made them."
Genesis 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.
Three mentions of "His work which He made." Repetition should draw attention to what is being said. We are to notice that everything was finished, including all the host of heaven and earth. We are of that group. We were finished before the seventh day, not yet born but already created and/or made although some were to be later formed. From the beginning of creation all the hosts were made. Not in the middle, not at the end of creation but "from the beginning of creation God made them male and female." Why? So they could be "fruitful and multiply." When was that?
Genesis 1:1 In (a) the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
In "the" beginning was mistranslated and should be in "a" beginning.
11 Peter 3:5-8 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
We can see "the heaven and the earth" as more than our concept of the literal for they are both. They are the natural representing the spiritual.
Psalm 33:6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
The heavens are those souls formed by God into whom He breathed "the breath of life; and man became a living soul." [Gen.2:7]
Psalm 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath He given to the children of men.
Psalm 119:89 For ever, O LORD, Thy Word is settled in heaven.
Jesus is Thy Word, His Word is in heaven and He dwells in us...we are the heaven He is in and as the heavens...we are the Lord's
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2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
Isaiah 51:16 And I have put My words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art My people
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Zion is...His people. Zion is...the heavens. He dwells in heaven/His people.]
As the heavens are Zion, and Zion is His children, then the earth are those not yet of heaven. They are without form.....
As the heavens are Zion, and Zion is His children, then the earth are those not yet of heaven. They are without form.....
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Who is darkness? What or who are the waters?
1:3-5 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
That was the first day of this age but we were created long before this age began. We were created male and female in (a) the beginning. The man Adam was both male and female in this age before Eve was taken from him. Why? From this one being would come the Saviour of the world. From him the line to Christ began and the two were one, "bone of my bones, flesh of my flesh."
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