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Mental Illness is alive and well in the CHURCH-The Suicide of Jarrid Wilson on 9/9-

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  1. GallyTrot

    GallyTrot New Member

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    Pastor, author and mental health advocate Jarrid Wilson dies by suicide - Religion News Service

    Again, the Church at large, no matter what denominational "flavor" you adhere to-- is again FORCED to address the issue of the existence of mental illness. Yes-- it is alive and well, thriving in the Church. It will continue to thrive there until this issue is dealt with. It saddens me greatly.

    From the article: "Sometimes people may think that as pastors or spiritual leaders we are somehow above the pain and struggles of everyday people. We are the ones who are supposed to have all the answers. But we do not,” Laurie said. This comment gives me great relief (relief in that all Believers do indeed suffer and, in this, we hopefully will support each other in our suffering-- but often, we do not) and yet great sadness that he was moved to end his life. I am happy that at least he is no longer suffering.

    Sadly, this demonstrates a Great and Awful Truth, one I have suspected for a while now:
    The Church DOES NOT have all the answers. I believe we must find the answers-- to all things-- within ourselves, ultimately. After all, the Deity cannot live our lives FOR us-- only WE can. We can only hope and be positive that the Universe will guide us lovingly to the people and resources to help us heal and become better human beings.

    Another quote (this time, from Jarrid's wife): “Suicide doesn’t get the last word. I won’t let it. You always said “Hope Gets the last word. Jesus does,” she added. Sadly, in this case, suicide DID get the last word, just like it got the last word in the story of Samson in the bible. After all, WHO REALLY KILLED SAMSON and why didn't god stop him? Seems to me that in the story of Samson, god supports suicide. I find this fact interesting, yet sick. But it is what it is.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Another fallacy. Who ever said that *the Church* has all the answers, or that *Christendom* has all the answers?

    It is only God and Christ who have all the answers. And since only God knows the hearts of people, you should be the last one to determine what is in anyone's heart (even your own).
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    You are claiming to be a Christian in your avatar, but these statements demonstrate that you are NOT a Christian. According to your avatar, probably a Buddhist, with the symbol of Yin and Yang prominently displayed. So tell us why you think you are a Christian.
     
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    Giuliano Well-Known Member

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    Others can often help us -- especially when we are "babes in Christ" so to speak; but after a while, I think God wants us to come to know things -- really know them -- for ourselves.
     
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    Giuliano Well-Known Member

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    Don't be silly.
     
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    He was only 30 years old and had a history of depression and attempted suicide, heading up a ministry for depression and self-harming and suidical activity, recipe for tragedy in my opinion.

    We need to be more selective, and not allow those who need the help to be those who are supposed to supply it. You can't give what you don't have.

    Much love!
     
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    Fair question.
     
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