Message of Holiness

[IanLC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPoBAzN4eI
What a powerful message! Its Holiness not weakness!

 

[Justin Mangonel]

Dear U,

So you believe this man is of God? I did not sense any anointing coming from him. I was more like a performance.

I have been in holiness Pentecost churches and it seems to be more about what they don't do than what they are doing. I am sure there are notable exceptions. You cannot preach holiness into people it has to be something they become from the inside. I believe that true holiness only comes from personal contact with our Father. Honestly, I did not sense anything like that coming from the person speaking.

I would be interested in knowing what you get personally from such speaking and how it changes your life.

Blessings,

Justin

 

[IanLC]

Dear U,

So you believe this man is of God? I did not sense any anointing coming from him. I was more like a performance.

I have been in holiness Pentecost churches and it seems to be more about what they don't do than what they are doing. I am sure there are notable exceptions. You cannot preach holiness into people it has to be something they become from the inside. I believe that true holiness only comes from personal contact with our Father. Honestly, I did not sense anything like that coming from the person speaking.

I would be interested in knowing what you get personally from such speaking and how it changes your life.

Blessings,

Justin

Number One I look pass the person into the Word of God. Just because you can not sense the anointing on an individual means nothing for who are you or I to say when someone is anointed or not. Two I enjoy this man of God who breaks forth the bread of life. Holiness is the standard and should be lived out. In the African American tradition we do get a little "happy" and we do moan, grown, hoop, and holler when we preach that is just our execution. Holiness encompasses the do's and dont's. If you watched other videos from this man of God you would see that he preaches the gospel. He never said that holiness did not come from God through Christ. It does change the life for 1. It is God's Word and 2. it reminds the people of God's call for us to live holy. And that is my stance.

 

[Justin Mangonel]

Dear U,

Thanks for your reply.

If you cannot sense the anointing (i.e. the flowing of the Holy Spirit) through the person who is speaking then what they say is usually of little import. A unsaved person can read the Bible to you and have the same effect. You could say, "it does not matter that the person is unsaved because I honor the words of God that they are speaking." This is essentially what you are saying with regards to this preacher.

I listened to the video to see if at any point he became anointed and I could not find one. There was just nothing there. Yes he was speaking about standards and salvation but most anyone who is newly saved can do that and probably better because they still have a new relationship with God. This man has no connection with God that is evident in his sermon.

I know that people want to pretend that things are great when they are not in order to fit in or be a part of a group. It is difficult to say that the emperor has no clothes when everyone else is pretending he does. However, the fact of the matter is that if God is not present in his preaching he is not present in the speakers life. Having been in Africa quite a bit I have seen people mimic what they think the western churches holds as good preaching. They put on quite a show but there is nothing coming good coming from them no matter how much the sweat.

The pharisees had standards too yet they drifted very far away from God. Standards are good but if there is no core of God inside of you then they are merely covering up uncleanliness.

Blessings,

Justin

 

[IanLC]

Dear U,

Thanks for your reply.

If you cannot sense the anointing (i.e. the flowing of the Holy Spirit) through the person who is speaking then what they say is usually of little import. A unsaved person can read the Bible to you and have the same effect. You could say, "it does not matter that the person is unsaved because I honor the words of God that they are speaking." This is essentially what you are saying with regards to this preacher.

I listened to the video to see if at any point he became anointed and I could not find one. There was just nothing there. Yes he was speaking about standards and salvation but most anyone who is newly saved can do that and probably better because they still have a new relationship with God. This man has no connection with God that is evident in his sermon.

I know that people want to pretend that things are great when they are not in order to fit in or be a part of a group. It is difficult to say that the emperor has no clothes when everyone else is pretending he does. However, the fact of the matter is that if God is not present in his preaching he is not present in the speakers life. Having been in Africa quite a bit I have seen people mimic what they think the western churches holds as good preaching. They put on quite a show but there is nothing coming good coming from them no matter how much the sweat.

The pharisees had standards too yet they drifted very far away from God. Standards are good but if there is no core of God inside of you then they are merely covering up uncleanliness.

Blessings,

Justin

Thank you for your reply and that is your opinion that is fallible the only infallible thing is the Word of God.