"ministering as a priest the gospel of God... "

[VictoryinJesus]

Accidently posted too soon... working on it.

Now may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that you abound in the hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.

and concerning you brothers, my brethren, I myself also am convinced that you yourselves are full of goodness, filled with the knowledge and able to admonish one another. But I have written very boldly to you on some points so as to remind you again, because of the grace that was given me from God, to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel of God so that (my) offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.


Therefore in Christ I have found reason for boasting in things pertaining to God. For I presume to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me, as a result the obedience of the Gentiles by word and deed, in the power of signs and wonders, in the power of the Spirit, so that from Jerusalem and round about as far as lilyricum I have fully preached the gosple of Christ.

not where Christ was already named, so that I would not build on another man's foundation
BUT as it is written "They who had no news of Him shall see, and they who have not heard shall understand.'

 

[GRACE ambassador]

because of the grace that was given me from God, to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel

Would that be an "addition in a new modern version" To God's Word Of Truth, so religion can have 'priests' and then claim that they are the only 'true' religion?:

"And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness,
filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. Nevertheless, brethren, I have
written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the Grace
that is given to me of God, That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles,
ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable,
being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus
Christ in those things which pertain to God." (Romans 15:14-17)

Further, I have never found 'priests nor sheep' In Paul's letters (Romans - Philemon), for the
Body Of Christ, Today, Under Grace, but have found:

{adopted, dear} children of {the Living God, light, the day, Abraham, promise}, believers, sons {of God}, daughters, brothers, sisters, brethren {beloved, carnal, faithful, and spiritual}, babes In Christ, {young, aged} men/women, {dearly} beloved {of The LORD}, members {in particular, one of another},

servants {of Christ}, saints, ministers, fellowlabourers, workers, co-labourers {with God}, elect of God, followers of God, heirs/joint-heirs, the temple {of God}, comforters, walkers, runners, kissers, greeters, saluters, sufferers, groaners, prayer partners, rejoicers, warriors, wrestlers, And, ambassadors of Christ!

God's Current Context of Mystery/Grace [ must be ]:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

'priests and sheep' are found in God's Other Context of prophecy/law/covenants for Israel.

to avoid Confusion, Amen?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Would that be an "addition in a new modern version" To God's Word Of Truth, so religion can have 'priests' and then claim that they are the only 'true' religion?:

"And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness,
filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. Nevertheless, brethren, I have
written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the Grace
that is given to me of God, That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles,
ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable,
being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus
Christ in those things which pertain to God." (Romans 15:14-17)

Further, I have never found 'priests nor sheep' In Paul's letters (Romans - Philemon), for the
Body Of Christ, Today, Under Grace, but have found:

{adopted, dear} children of {the Living God, light, the day, Abraham, promise}, believers, sons {of God}, daughters, brothers, sisters, brethren {beloved, carnal, faithful, and spiritual}, babes In Christ, {young, aged} men/women, {dearly} beloved {of The LORD}, members {in particular, one of another},

servants {of Christ}, saints, ministers, fellowlabourers, workers, co-labourers {with God}, elect of God, followers of God, heirs/joint-heirs, the temple {of God}, comforters, walkers, runners, kissers, greeters, saluters, sufferers, groaners, prayer partners, rejoicers, warriors, wrestlers, And, ambassadors of Christ!

God's Current Context of Mystery/Grace [ must be ]:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

'priests and sheep' are found in God's Other Context of prophecy/law/covenants for Israel.

to avoid Confusion, Amen?

I don't know. usually, i read the KVJ version on my phone app but use the Lexicon also because a lot of times it is different. As you suggested 'priest" isn't used there but added. For me that isn't the point. Whether priest is there or not. Because (imo) Paul would not be pushing Priest in the context you mentioned to abuse that word "priest" ...because to me I think Paul would shake his head if he ever heard reference to "the Pauline Doctrine"...his shaking of his head with a sigh, "do you not get it yet. It is not the Pauline Doctrine. It never was. Is by the Revelation of Jesus Christ. They who had no news of Him shall see, and they who have not heard shall understand."

 

[VictoryinJesus]

'priests and sheep' are found in God's Other Context of prophecy/law/covenants for Israel.

yes, but in speaking of prophecy and for Israel which is boldened above... are you forgetting Paul was an Israelite? An Israelite who (if i understand you correctly) an Israelite who couldn't possibly use the word "priest" because that only referred to (the prophecy) for Israel? “I will provoke them to Jealousy with a people that are not a people.” ? “They who had no news of Him shall see, and they who have not heard shall understand."

 

[VictoryinJesus]

er. But I have written very boldly to you on some points so as to remind you again, because of the grace that was given me from God, to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles, ministering as a priest the gospel of God so that (my) offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

“because the Grace given me of God”
For this cause “to be a minister of Christ”…a messenger of Christ? To the gentiles … “ministering as a priest the gospel of God” “as an Ambassador”(elsewhere in the word, for reconciliation unto God)

That my offering of the Gentiles may become acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.
^never considered before what is offered as “a Living sacrifice” that God by His Spirit makes the sacrifice (pure) acceptable and sanctified.
It makes me think of OT when an altar was built and some called their idols or gods…but when God was called upon the Fire of God come down and encompassed everything upon the altar with Fire.

Also Paul speaking of that “I may present you a chaste pure virgin” in Christ, espousing you to one husband. I get that was to the Jew but once again, Paul speaks of hope of the sacrifice, joy of the sacrifice made Alive unto God: “pure” acceptable, and sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

Makes me how often we want to offer him our own praise and pats on the back by lifting up trash as proof to him in presenting to him one who is sick, lame and unfit. What there is no hope in, no belief in the offering made Alive unto God, acceptable or sanctified by the Holy Spirit. To prove our own “acceptable”
And “sanities by the Holy Spirit”.

Does God say “that stinks?” Or that you would offer that which is broken, diseased, and lame unto Me? To prove yourself as “acceptable” “sanctified by the Holy Spirit” …stinks of death.
but that is what He receives: the broken, the diseased, and the lame .. that they be “made acceptable” “sanctified by the Holy Spirit” made Alive and the sweet fragrance of Life.

 

[Ghada]

I don't know. usually, i read the KVJ version on my phone app but use the Lexicon also because a lot of times it is different. As you suggested 'priest" isn't used there but added. For me that isn't the point. Whether priest is there or not. Because (imo) Paul would not be pushing Priest in the context you mentioned to abuse that word "priest" ...because to me I think Paul would shake his head if he ever heard reference to "the Pauline Doctrine"...his shaking of his head with a sigh, "do you not get it yet. It is not the Pauline Doctrine. It never was. Is by the Revelation of Jesus Christ. They who had no news of Him shall see, and they who have not heard shall understand."

You make a very good point here, that is overlooked by many readers of the Bible. They begin to think in terms of what Paul said, or John, or James, and even begin pitting them against one another. They don't have faith in the Bible, because they don't really believe every word of the Bible is God's words, not the words of men from their own minds.

So, since God says we are made kings and priests to Him by the washing of His Lamb's blood, which is called His royal priesthood, then applying priest to every member of Christ at any time, especially in context of ministering His word, then there's nothing out of place about it.

Who would argue against being a priest in the High Priesthood of Jesus Christ? Except someone that does not think of themselves as a priest in the NT priesthood of God? And why not? Because they do not believe all the words of the Bible are spoken by the same One,

All the Bible is inspired and given by the same Spirit of Christ from Gen 1:1 to Rev 22:21.

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello,

Within God assembly, there are many people with very different roles to play. We have Apostles, teachers, prophets, pastoral carers, etc. fulfilling the work of the Assembly in bring the Gospel to the nations.

The great commission is for the Saints to go out and make disciples of everybody they rub shoulders with on a daily basis. Does this mean that we are Priests? Sometimes, yes, other times we will operate under a different gifting.

Jesus prepared to Disciples to become Apostles and to go out into all of the world and to make disciples of the people they encountered. In other words, Christ taught the 12 disciples how to make disciples and then how to release those that they discipled to go out with God to make disciples of the people that they will interact with, etc..

Are we priest when we go out and make disciples of other? Maybe that is our gifting. A priest was to encourage the people to worship God and serve God. They were to bind up the wounded so that they would be healed and made whole again. They were to encourage the people to focus on God throughout the peoples lives.

I have seen people who have receive the Apostolic Gifting, and other who exercise that "gift" to control those around them. I have seen people who have received the priestly gift and have used this gift wisely, and others that have adopted the function of a priest to satisfy their own needs.

In all things be content in the gifts that the Lord Gives you. Some giftings may be temporal, others more permanent. God's giftings during the time of our ministry will meet the needs of the people we serve in the roles that God give to us to perform within the assembly of believes that we join ourselves too.

As disciples of Christ we are too empty ourselves and only live for Christ in all that we do.

Allow God to draw you into His purposes for your life and be content that he has called you to be one of His servants in establishing His Kingdom on the face of the earth.

Shalom