More Heavier Than Self-Improvement

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Matthew 16:24, the Greek verb behind deny, comes from “aparnesastho,” a word used for denying, disowning or renouncing, the meaning many Christians miss is this, Jesus is not attacking human dignity, he is calling for a decisive refusal to let the self remain the ruling authority. The verse is not mainly about becoming miserable, it is not mainly about giving up coffee, hobbies, opinions or comfort, it is about losing the right to sit above Jesus and decide which parts of his Lordship are negotiable, but the Greek word “aparnesastho” alone is not enough, context decides what the word is doing and in Matthew 16:24, Jesus says this command immediately after Peter tries to stop him from going to the cross.

That is where Matthew 16:24 becomes sharp, Peter has just confessed Jesus as the Christ, the son of the living God, then Jesus begins to tell the disciples that he must go to Jerusalem, suffer many things, be killed and be raised the third day and Peter cannot bear it, Peter pulls Jesus aside, the disciple corrects the master. Matthew 16:22, Peter does to think he is rebelling, he thinks he is protecting Jesus, but Jesus hears something more dangerous underneath the concern, Matthew 16:23. Then comes the command, Matthew 16:24 gives the movement, a misunderstood phrase, a disciple resisting the cross, a Greek word heavier than self-improvement and a final question about what happens when Jesus confronts the place where a person still wants control.

A person hears deny yourself and the mind can go to dark places quickly, someone who already struggles with shame, hears Jesus saying, you are the problem. Someone who has been taught a harsh version of religion hears, disappear, stop wanting anything, stop feeling anything, the holier you are, the less human you become. Someone wounded by spiritual manipulation hears a verse that sounds like it could be used against them, that is why the first guardrail matters. Scripture does not treat human beings as worthless, Genesis 1:26-27 says God created humanity in his image, Psalm 139:14, so whatever Jesus means, he is not contradicting the dignity God gives to his own creation, but he is also not saying something small.
 
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A person hears deny yourself

To deny yourself, in contemporary lingo, simply means to serve a cause greater than your own self-interest.

This means you REALIZE that this is available as a lifestyle choice.
So, in the case of "denying yourself"..as the NT explains it......it means that you should put God first in your life at all times, without reservation or double-mindedness.
You choose to deny what you would naturally want to do to please yourself, most of the time.... as your first response and first lifestyle choice. And instead you choose to SERVE GOD instead.....as the #1 Position in your life.

A.) "Present your body as a living sacrifice to God, which is your resaonable SERVICE"...>Paul Teaches.

See that "SERVICE"?.::....to God? This has to become the center of your life, the core of your thinking, the root of your actions, and your utmost LOVE.

Listen,
God gave His only Son for you, Reader.
What are you willing to give Him......... = now defines the depth of your loyalty to God, and love for God.
Another way to think of it is....what are you willing to give up...for God?

That is how you "deny yourself" and "carry your Cross" regarding Christianity.
 
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