Mortal Soul Theology must reject Jesus as God, and that He did not sin

[robert derrick]

Mortal soul theology teaches that the mortal body is the body of the soul: Man on earth, is a mortal being like all living creatures, but with a body called the soul.

We are mortal bodies, that are mortal souls.

This of course is just lip-service to the soul of man, that is a distinction without a difference between natural men, that reject soul and spirit altogether, and say there is the mortal body only.

However, this naturalism of the soul is also the reason why Jesus Christ must be rejected as God come in the flesh, as well as rejecting that the man Jesus did not sin in the days of His flesh.

Here's how it works:

If all men are mortal bodies called souls, then God could not come in the flesh as a natural born man on earth, because then as all men, God's own body-soul would die on earth, And since they teach the Godhead is not three Persons, then God cannot die, neither in spirit nor in flesh.

The only way for God to come in the flesh, would have to be with an immortal body soul, which then could not die.

And further, since they also believe the lie of mortal bodies being born with sin, and so die by sinning, then since Jesus died, He could not possibly have not sinned.

And so:

1. Jesus Christ could not have been God coming in the mortal flesh of men, since the flesh is the soul, which would make Jesus' soul mortal and not God.

2. Neither could He have not sinned like all men, since He did die in the flesh like all men, which bodies of souls only die by sinning.

 

[robert derrick]

With natural soul theology, where flesh and blood of men is his soul, for God to come in the flesh, He would have to live forever in the flesh on earth.

Therefore, if Jesus Christ were God, then He did not come in mortal flesh of men, and He did not sin and die like all men.

This of course is the antichrist doctrine that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh like all men, but He was just His Spirit temporarily appearing in the likeness of flesh and blood, Even as He did to Abraham, but just stuck around longer for however many years.

Afterall, He could have been naturally born on earth, and so why bother crawling around like a baby?

There could have been no virgin birth, which would have made Him with mortal flesh and blood. But the child Jesus just appeared one day on the stoop of Joseph and Mary, and said He was the Son of God come to visit and live with them for a while.

The Holy Spirit only informed Mary of His coming as a child. The virgin birth stuff was just made up for cover.

 

[face2face]

Mortal soul theology teaches that the mortal body is the body of the soul: Man on earth, is a mortal being like all living creatures, but with a body called the soul.

We are mortal bodies, that are mortal souls.

This of course is just lip-service to the soul of man, that is a distinction without a difference between natural men, that reject soul and spirit altogether, and say there is the mortal body only.

However, this naturalism of the soul is also the reason why Jesus Christ must be rejected as God come in the flesh, as well as rejecting that the man Jesus did not sin in the days of His flesh.

Here's how it works:

If all men are mortal bodies called souls, then God could not come in the flesh as a natural born man on earth, because then as all men, God's own body-soul would die on earth, And since they teach the Godhead is not three Persons, then God cannot die, neither in spirit nor in flesh.

Well, there's your first mistake!

God did not "come in the flesh"...He raised up a Son in the Flesh (HUGE difference)

Romans 8:3: “For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh.

How did God condemn sin in the flesh of Jesus Christ?

The only way for God to come in the flesh, would have to be with an immortal body soul, which then could not die.

And further, since they also believe the lie of mortal bodies being born with sin, and so die by sinning, then since Jesus died, He could not possibly have not sinned.

And so:

1. Jesus Christ could not have been God coming in the mortal flesh of men, since the flesh is the soul, which would make Jesus' soul mortal and not God.

2. Neither could He have not sinned like all men, since He did die in the flesh like all men, which bodies of souls only die by sinning.

No one is born with sin - they are born with a nature which has a bias toward sin.

You have a lot of confusion going on there robert.

Once again the trinity is running havoc like a virus in your mind!

F2F

 

[face2face]

With natural soul theology, where flesh and blood of men is his soul, for God to come in the flesh, He would have to live forever in the flesh on earth.

Therefore, if Jesus Christ were God, then He did not come in mortal flesh of men, and He did not sin and die like all men.

This of course is the antichrist doctrine that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh like all men, but He was just His Spirit temporarily appearing in the likeness of flesh and blood, Even as He did to Abraham, but just stuck around longer for however many years.

Afterall, He could have been naturally born on earth, and so why bother crawling around like a baby?

There could have been no virgin birth, which would have made Him with mortal flesh and blood. But the child Jesus just appeared one day on the stoop of Joseph and Mary, and said He was the Son of God come to visit and live with them for a while.

The Holy Spirit only informed Mary of His coming as a child. The virgin birth stuff was just made up for cover.

Okay in this thread I am going to go through the use of Soul and it's meaning until such time as you comprehend its use in Scripture.

Gen 27:4 Then prepare for me some tasty food, the kind I love, and bring it to me. Then I will eat it so that I may bless you before I die.”

tn Heb “so that my soul may bless you.” The use of נַפְשִׁי (nafshi, “my soul”) as the subject emphasizes that the blessing will be made with all Isaac’s desire and vitality. The conjunction “so that” closely relates the meal to the blessing, suggesting that this will be a ritual meal in conjunction with the giving of a formal blessing. NET notes

Soul here relates to the "life" of Jacob and all it represents and nothing here is speaking about the immortal essence in man.

1395a נֶפֶשׁ (nepeš) life, soul, creature, person, appetite, and mind are the more common of the twenty-some varieties of meaning utilized in KJV. Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (Chicago: Moody Press, 1999), 587.

You must consider the context before assigning meaning to the word soul.

F2F

 

[Heart2Soul]

Mortal soul theology teaches that the mortal body is the body of the soul: Man on earth, is a mortal being like all living creatures, but with a body called the soul.

We are mortal bodies, that are mortal souls.

This of course is just lip-service to the soul of man, that is a distinction without a difference between natural men, that reject soul and spirit altogether, and say there is the mortal body only.

However, this naturalism of the soul is also the reason why Jesus Christ must be rejected as God come in the flesh, as well as rejecting that the man Jesus did not sin in the days of His flesh.

Here's how it works:

If all men are mortal bodies called souls, then God could not come in the flesh as a natural born man on earth, because then as all men, God's own body-soul would die on earth, And since they teach the Godhead is not three Persons, then God cannot die, neither in spirit nor in flesh.

The only way for God to come in the flesh, would have to be with an immortal body soul, which then could not die.

And further, since they also believe the lie of mortal bodies being born with sin, and so die by sinning, then since Jesus died, He could not possibly have not sinned.

And so:

1. Jesus Christ could not have been God coming in the mortal flesh of men, since the flesh is the soul, which would make Jesus' soul mortal and not God.

2. Neither could He have not sinned like all men, since He did die in the flesh like all men, which bodies of souls only die by sinning.

How many ways can a member disguise their topic regarding the Deity of Jesus? You all amaze me at how creative you are with thread titles.