Mountain Lion perched in tree by school

[Wrangler]

I was focused upon the fact that we too in Australia have animals that will kill and consume you given the chance. The type of animals that will, was really irrelevant to what I had posted. Your response was to make the optics of what you had posted previously, better, by suggesting that I had overlooked an irrelevant part of your previous post with respect to what I had posted.

I noticed @Armour of God does this. In another thread, he's peculiar about who to object applying violent force to. Doesn't want to talk about other groups, such as criminals by police and terrorists or enemy armies by our military.

I didn't even think about wild animals as a justified target for use of violence.

 

[Armour of God]

 

[Debp]

This is horrible... happened in Yucaipa California, a small city. The dogs killed were big dogs...so pretty.

 

[Armour of God]

This is horrible... happened in Yucaipa California, a small city. The dogs killed were big dogs...so pretty.

I'm asking myself is it more dangerous to go hiking/camping in Australia or in America?
So let's put some perspective on things and see how many peope are attacked and/or die from land animal attacks.




So those big scary mammals of North America don't actually attack humans very often and deaths are very rare.

Let's look at the venemous creatures.




I'm actually surprised by how many venemous snake bites and spider bites there are in the states. More than I expected

Meanwhile in Australia


There are less venemous snake bites and deaths in Australia than America.
But you have to consider the population.
America has about 340 million people whereas Australia only has 27 million people.
So per person Australia has far more bites and deaths by snakes than America.
If Australia had 340 million people than there would be 36,000 snake bites with about 30 deaths per year. So the odds of getting bitten and killed are in fact much higher in Australia



Spider bites and deaths in Australia are lower than I expected. No deaths since 1979 compared to America's 3 fatalities per year from spiders.

There are no other really dangerous land animals that I can think of in Australia.

So after considering all that data I would have to say that it is a bit more dangerous to go hiking/camping in Australia because of the amount of snake bites and deaths per person.

 

[Debp]

I'm asking myself is it more dangerous to go hiking/camping in Australia or in America?
So let's put some perspective on things and see how many peope are attacked and/or die from land animal attacks.

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So those big scary mammals of North America don't actually attack humans very often and deaths are very rare.

Let's look at the venemous creatures.

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I'm actually surprised by how many venemous snake bites and spider bites there are in the states. More than I expected

Meanwhile in Australia

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There are less venemous snake bites and deaths in Australia than America.
But you have to consider the population.
America has about 340 million people whereas Australia only has 27 million people.
So per person Australia has far more bites and deaths by snakes than America.
If Australia had 340 million people than there would be 36,000 snake bites with about 30 deaths per year. So the odds of getting bitten and killed are in fact much higher in Australia

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Spider bites and deaths in Australia are lower than I expected. No deaths since 1979 compared to America's 3 fatalities per year from spiders.

There are no other really dangerous land animals that I can think of in Australia.

So after considering all that data I would have to say that it is a bit more dangerous to go hiking/camping in Australia because of the amount of snake bites and deaths per person.

The Black bears are what we have in our suburban foothill streets...they root through trash cans on trash day, go swimming in the pools or lounge in the backyard trees.

When a bear is roaming a street, the news crews or helicopters go to take videos. Once a man was walking on the side of his house with his nose to his cell phone. The bear was coming around the other corner of his house...so they almost met nose to nose! Man turned around and fled! It was funny to see...helicopter caught that.

Brief videos.
Here's the texting man and bear...

Hot tub bear...

Short video...bears even play with swimming float toys! Click on watch on YouTube.

 

[Armour of God]

The Black bears are what we have in our suburban foothill streets...they root through trash cans on trash day, go swimming in the pools or lounge in the backyard trees.

When a bear is roaming a street, the news crews or helicopters go to take videos. Once a man was walking on the side of his house with his nose to his cell phone. The bear was coming around the other corner of his house...so they almost met nose to nose! Man turned around and fled! It was funny to see...helicopter caught that.

Brief videos.
Here's the texting man and bear...

Hot tub bear...

Short video...bears even play with swimming float toys! Click on watch on YouTube.

Their adorable, especially the little cubs

 

[amigo de christo]

Brief video. He is sure lounging. @Armour of God @Taken

something tells me if that was up in the ol tree
it would not be here kitty kitty
as one puts a can of tuna on a front porch .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yea but they are very territorial during the breeding season or when mummy has a joey to protect

Even the koalas know and understand the order of things .
Pretty sad that more and more of even humanity believes otherwise .
You dont see the koalas pondering and saying hey i was born the wrong sex . its pretty sad days indeed .

 

[Debp]

Another Mountain Lion this time in a Pasadena backyard. Pasadena is adjacent to Los Angeles.

 

[amigo de christo]

Another Mountain Lion this time in a Pasadena backyard. Pasadena is adjacent to Los Angeles.

A can of tuna and a pet . Nope . If kitty gets fiesty things turn nasty real quickly .

 

[Debp]

Another Mountain Lion...this one in San Dimas, adjacent to Los Angeles. The photos of the Mountain Lion get better as the video goes along.

 

[Wrangler]

Mountain lions have to eat too.

 

[Armour of God]

Mountain lions have to eat too.

Yea I'm guessing there are plenty of mice, rats, squirrels, other small rotents and mammals that attracts them to the suburbs.

Their not preying on humans but could easily take one, especially a child or vulnerable person, or even a fit strong man

 

[amigo de christo]

Mountain lions have to eat too.

So do wolves . let all beware for the most dangerous wolf of all wolves
is not the one who appears as a wolf but rather as a sheep and destroys from within .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yea I'm guessing there are plenty of mice, rats, squirrels, other small rotents and mammals that attracts them to the suburbs.

Their not preying on humans but could easily take one, especially a child or vulnerable person, or even a fit strong man

Yeah , that aint ya ordinary ol puss n boots . Its dagger like claws be much larger
and its teeth much longer . SO i would advise all
to not put a can of tuna on the front porch and holler , HERE KITTY KITTY ,
Cause that probably wont bode well for he or she who does so .

 

[Debp]

Wow another one so soon. Lots of good video of the cat lounging in the tree.

 

[Armour of God]

Wow another one so soon. Lots of good video of the cat lounging in the tree.

Another one. That's insane.
Next time an American says we have dangerous wildlife in Australia I know exactly how to respond

 

[Debp]

Another one. That's insane.
Next time an American says we have dangerous wildlife in Australia I know exactly how to respond

And the wild thing is this is the Los Angeles metropolitan area... Mountain Lions, bears and coyotes. Oh Rattlesnakes in the canyons and brush.

I talked with my friend. She said they have a lot of coyotes on her street now. She said the coyote was following her daughter walking the dog. Her daughter would stop, the coyote would stop. Finally she picked the dog up... it's a medium sized dog so kind of heavy. And her daughter is small.

She also said the coyote pups are playing on her front yard!

 

[mailmandan]

This video still makes me lol. I'm sorry but I can't help but lol.

This elderly couple was visiting their family in Pasadena from Scotland. They were totally oblivious that a bear was on the porch with them!

Check out the comments alongside the video...they are quite funny. @Armour of God

Leaving candy outside for trick or treaters on Halloween is a bad idea in states that have bears.