Muslim Schoolteacher Punishes Students for not Praying to Allah

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River Jordan

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In a mostly Muslim community in the US, it's been revealed that a public schoolteacher has been leading her first grade students in Muslim prayers, including having them face towards Mecca and bow as they pray to Allah. When some non-Muslim parents found out about it, rather than immediately run to a lawyer or the media, they instead went to the principal and hoped that he just wasn't aware of what had been going on and would put an end to it. What happened was very different.

Instead, the teacher continued the prayers and had the children of the parents who complained go outside and sit in the hallway while the rest of the class prayed to Allah. Of course the students picked up on what was going on and started making fun of and harassing the non-praying kids. The teacher started holding the two kids back from recess and tried to pressure them to convert to Islam. Eventually the parents pulled their kids from the school and have now filed a lawsuit. The Freedom from Religion Foundation has taken up their case.

"It should not be necessary for FFRF to sue over such an obvious violation of specific Supreme Court decisions barring devotions from our public schools," noted Dan Barker, FFRF co-president. "No child in our secular school system or their parents should be subjected to prayer, or stigmatized when their parents speak up to defend the Establishment Clause. But unfortunately, it appears a lawsuit will be the only way to protect the freedom of conscience of these young children."

"If anyone needs a picture drawn on how destructive religion is in our public schools, this situation is a perfect example," added Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-president. "The fact that such abusive practices are continuing in our public schools 63 years after the first Supreme Court decision against school prayer shows just how much FFRF's legal work is still needed.""

Crazy stuff, isn't it? :blink:





Oh wait.....I got one little detail wrong.....the teacher was a Christian, not a Muslim, and the prayers were Christian ones, not Muslim. But the same concepts apply, don't they? :eek:
 
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That Christian teacher is trying to get her class saved / to heaven. Their prayers will very likely be for those standing outside. For God to have mercy on them. After a a Christian prayer session those kids will come out with a self denial / sacrificing heart toward those outside. You don't have to know much about the Quran to know that a Muslim will not come out with the same heart.

Apples and oranges. Christianity is the truth River, do you not know that? We Christians are on earth for one reason, can you guess what that is? Hint, what was the teachers intentions?
 

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Maybe since you're not in the US, you're not aware that it is illegal for the government to promote a religion. Public schools are government institutions and the teachers are government employees, which means it's illegal for them to promote a religion while at work, especially to students.
 

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So you are saying the Holy Spirit could not have been leading her to take the risk? Do you agree with that law? Do you think Jesus would make such a law?

Its the same in this country. Heck I am not even allowed to preach at work. The day that law is stricly enforced the end will come. We need to stand up for that teacher because she did what Jesus laid on her heart to do. Not beat her down as a law breaker.
 

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I don't think you quite understand how this works.

So I'll make it easy for you.

I'm of a protestant mindset. If my child went to school and had catholicism shoved done his throat by a teacher, I'd be very upset.

Same goes in reverse. Or with other faiths.

School, is NOT for indoctrination. It is for education.

Religious teaching should be at your local house of worship or your home. Not a school.

Trying to indoctrinate my child in a way that is contrary to my way of doing it violates the second great command.

ANY whom violates that command is NOT with the King. They are rebels.
 

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pom2014 said:
I don't think you quite understand how this works.

So I'll make it easy for you.

I'm of a protestant mindset. If my child went to school and had catholicism shoved done his throat by a teacher, I'd be very upset.

Same goes in reverse. Or with other faiths.

School, is NOT for indoctrination. It is for education.

Religious teaching should be at your local house of worship or your home. Not a school.

Trying to indoctrinate my child in a way that is contrary to my way of doing it violates the second great command.

ANY whom violates that command is NOT with the King. They are rebels.

There is a hierarchy of indoctrination and then there is grasping the heart of the individual doing such action at a risk to themselves.

A prayer session is not indoctrination in any form. Even if they said the Hail Mary. Teach my kid evolution and I will get upset. Teach my kid anything from the bible or anything from a Christian denomination and I will NOT throw my toys out the cot. I may not agree, but Jesus = Jesus.

I will bet that there are many beliefs you do not share.... just with the few people sitting in your isle at church.

Again....a prayer session....How can a prayer to Jesus go wrong?
 

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KingJ said:
So you are saying the Holy Spirit could not have been leading her to take the risk? Do you agree with that law? Do you think Jesus would make such a law?
I like the fact that we live in a democratic republic where there's no official state religion. I can't imagine what it would be like if American Christians sat down and tried to establish what "true Christianity" is. Pretty chaotic, and likely to result in violence, I'd say. As far as Jesus is concerned, He will settle that when He returns.

Its the same in this country. Heck I am not even allowed to preach at work.
I bet your co-workers appreciate that. :lol:

We need to stand up for that teacher because she did what Jesus laid on her heart to do. Not beat her down as a law breaker.
Obviously you can't think beyond simple tribalism.
 

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River Jordan said:
I like the fact that we live in a democratic republic where there's no official state religion. I can't imagine what it would be like if American Christians sat down and tried to establish what "true Christianity" is. Pretty chaotic, and likely to result in violence, I'd say. As far as Jesus is concerned, He will settle that when He returns.


I bet your co-workers appreciate that. :lol:


Obviously you can't think beyond simple tribalism.
I pray that someday you find Jesus and grasp what life is all about.
 

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That is where you and I differ.

My King said to pray in secret. Not before men.

I'll keep to my Kings word for he knows best.

My house and I will keep to his words not mans' traditions.
 

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River Jordan said:
Ah, KingJ's last resort. FTW!!! :lol:
The irony...
pom2014 said:
That is where you and I differ.

My King said to pray in secret. Not before men.

I'll keep to my Kings word for he knows best.

My house and I will keep to his words not mans' traditions.
Your King also said 'Luke 9:50 Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."