MY GOSPEL

[David in NJ]

The kingdom was interrupted by this dispensation of grace but will resume in the future

That is completely FALSE my Brother @Doug

Whoever is saying this, is speaking from the Serpent's mouth with a forked tongue

attention @pandaflower, do you remember when you asked me about the doctrine of "Dispensation"?

Well here it is in it's most destructive and deceptive form.

 

[Doug]

the Lord Jesus Christ is the Kingdom AND the Kingdom is the Gospel AND the Gospel is the Lord Jesus Christ

David what would I believe from this? we are told to believe the gospel.........what do say the gospel is? the kingdom? The kingdom was promised to believing Israel

 

[Doug]

the Lord Jesus Christ is the Kingdom AND the Kingdom is the Gospel AND the Gospel is the Lord Jesus Christ

By the way no comment about the gospels I cited for you????

 

[David in NJ]

By the way no comment about the gospels I cited for you????

Sure yo did = "The kingdom was interrupted by this dispensation of grace but will resume in the future"

 

[Doug]

can you explain further what you mean I am not certain I understand.

Jesus said the kingdom was at hand so where is it?
It was interrupted by the grace of God in this dispensation in which Jews could be saved freely by faith in Christ
It will be fulfilled in the future......Israel will go thru the tribulation .........Christ will return to set up the kingdom

 

[LoveYeshua]

Very well but I was saying your statement was wrong in saying "He spoke openly in parables" which he didnt........never mind its ok

yes I hesitated when I wrote this but to me it was true to those who love God, I should have been more clear.

Blessings

 

[Doug]

That is completely FALSE my Brother @Doug

Whoever is saying this, is speaking from the Serpent's mouth with a forked tongue

attention @pandaflower, do you remember when you asked me about the doctrine of "Dispensation"?

Well here it is in it's most destructive and deceptive form.

David
Did not Christ say the kingdom was at hand?
Do you see it?
It was postponed, the Lord in taught in parables of his delayed coming

 

[LoveYeshua]

Israel said we will do all commanded (Exodus 19:8) .....they didnt and couldnt.....why do you think we can? If we could righteousness should have been by the law (Galatians 2:21) If we could why do we need atonement?
Paul gave us the way to fulfill the righteousness of the law...............[Rom 8:4 KJV] 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Israel promised, “All that the LORD has spoken we will do” (Exodus 19:8), but later turned away because they hardened their hearts. God never said His law was impossible to keep. In Deuteronomy 30:11–14 He told them, “For this commandment which I command you today is not too mysterious for you, nor is it far off… But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may do it.” The problem was not the law but the people’s unwillingness to obey. Jesus confirmed that keeping God’s commands is possible when He said, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17). He never taught that obedience was beyond reach. Instead, He came to free us from sin, not from obedience, saying, “Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin… Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed” (John 8:34–36). Through His Spirit we are made clean and empowered to walk in righteousness, but the standard of God’s law has not changed.

Atonement is needed because all have sinned, not because the law is flawed or impossible. Jesus’ blood cleanses us from past sins and restores fellowship with God, giving us a new heart to obey Him. He said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15). Righteousness has always come from faith expressed in obedience, just as God promised through Ezekiel, “I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them” (Ezekiel 36:27).

Some claim that Paul “gave us the way to fulfill the righteousness of the law,” quoting Romans 8:4, where Paul wrote, “that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.” Yet this can cause confusion, because Paul speaks of “fulfilling” the law in a way that seems to place the focus on his teaching rather than on Jesus Himself. Jesus never said anyone else would give a new way to righteousness. He clearly said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me” (John 14:6), and, “Follow Me” (Matthew 16:24). He came not to destroy the law but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17–19), showing us how to live by God’s commands in the power of His Spirit. The law reveals the path of life; Jesus makes it possible for us to walk in it. Righteousness is fulfilled in us when we remain in Christ, keep His words, and are led by His Spirit—not by following any other teacher. He alone gives power to overcome sin and to walk in true obedience, proving that through Him what seemed impossible has now been made possible for all who love Him.

Blessings

 

[Doug]

You claim there's more than one Gospel .

You're wrong. You don't know anything about our faith.

Why waste your time here.

By the way thats pretty sad when someone does not want to convey the gospel they believe.

 

[David in NJ]

David
Did not Christ say the kingdom was at hand?
Do you see it?
It was postponed, the Lord in taught in parables of his delayed coming

Oh YESS my Brother Doug - i SEE the Kingdom that was "at Hand"

Isa 63:5 I looked, but there was no one to help; I was appalled that no one assisted. So My arm brought Me salvation

 

[Doug]

Sure yo did = "The kingdom was interrupted by this dispensation of grace but will resume in the future"

What???
I am talking about this reply where you asked me to cite more than one gospel......you have no comments???????

I will show you some gospels .......you show me where I am wrong

Gen 3:15 KJV] 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Gospel of a coming saviour

[Gen 22:8 KJV] 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

God will provide offering for our sins

[Heb 4:2 KJV] 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].

What gospel was the writer of Hebrews referring to?

Deuteronomy 1:8 Behold, I have set the land before you: go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give unto them and to their seed after them.

Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus preached the gospel of the coming Davidic kingdom on earth

[John 3:16, 18 KJV] 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ... 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The gospel of everlasting life in the name of Jesus

[1Co 15:1-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul's gospel

Agree or not there is more than one gospel.....why is that a threat is to be refuted is beyond me

The gospel is progressive and dispensational

 

[Doug]

The problem was not the law but the people’s unwillingness to obey.

right

 

[LoveYeshua]

ill be off for the rest of the day but will answer tomorrow if you have questions @Doug

Blessings

 

[Doug]

Oh YESS my Brother Doug - i SEE the Kingdom that was "at Hand"

Isa 63:5 I looked, but there was no one to help; I was appalled that no one assisted. So My arm brought Me salvation

Is Israel in the whole promised land
Is Christ reigning on David's throne in Jerusalem?
Is there war?
Does the lion lay down with the lamb?
I dont think you are seeing the kingdom

 

[Doug]

ill be off for the rest of the day but will answer tomorrow if you have questions @Doug

Blessings

ok later

 

[David in NJ]

Is Israel in the whole promised land
Is Christ reigning on David's throne in Jerusalem?
Is there war?
Does the lion lay down with the lamb?
I dont think you are seeing the kingdom

JESUS is the ISRAEL of God

Yes, the Jews are once again in their land as prophesied = "but they are not all Israel who are of ISRAEL"

CHRIST is Reigning far Above in ZION as we speak.

Zion is not on earth.

 

[David in NJ]

Is Israel in the whole promised land
Is Christ reigning on David's throne in Jerusalem?
Is there war?
Does the lion lay down with the lamb?
I dont think you are seeing the kingdom

i SEE clear as DAY

Here again is the Kingdom = Colossians 1:9-14
For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; strengthened with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with joy; giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light.
He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the Kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

 

[David in NJ]

By the way no comment about the gospels I cited for you????

Gott ago for now

 

[Doug]

JESUS is the ISRAEL of God

Yes, the Jews are once again in their land as prophesied = "but they are not all Israel who are of ISRAEL"

CHRIST is Reigning far Above in ZION as we speak.

Zion is not on earth.

[Isa 24:23 KJV] 23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

The mount of Zion is on earth and so is Jerusalem

 

[Doug]

Gott ago for now

tell me later what you thought about there being more than one gospel