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[LoveYeshua]

What I should have also said was that: -

Firstly, in the Luke account, some of the man of noble birth's servants sent a delegation after the man saying that they no longer wanted the man to rule over them. Luke 19:14 suggests that the some of the servants were Israelites, which give a clue as to when the Israelite began turning back to God around the end of the fourth age of their existence.

Secondly, in the Luke account the servants who made a prophet for their master was given authority of ten and five cities respectfully

Thirdly, in the Luke account after the man had returned the money given to him the master said to him, "‘You wicked servant, I will judge you by your own words. So you knew that I am a harsh man, withdrawing what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? Why then did you not deposit my money in the bank, and upon my return I could have collected it with interest? And then the master took the mina from him and give it to servant who returned ten minas to the master, but the other servants argued that that was not fair as he already had ten minas.

Fourthly, in the Luke account, in verse 27 Jesus told in the Minas parable that the man insisted that the enemies of his who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me. John in Revelation 12 confirms the Luke 19 parable of the Minas.

Fifthly, in the Matthew account, the first and second servant were told that they were "good and faithful servants! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Enter into the joy of your master!"

And lastly in the Matthew account, the master states, "Therefore take the talent from him and give it to the one who has ten talents. For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. But the one who does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. And throw that worthless servant into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Remember that Satan goes into the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years with the beasts and the Little Horn and the Kings of the earth, and that when Satan is initially released, he firstly goes after the woman who had given birth to Jesus, and when she was protected from him, Satan then went after the women's other children.
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This understanding of the End Time is certainly not unique.

Shalom

i read again Luke ten minas parable but differently after what you said, its making its way..still looking at it probably wont have a clear idea for some time. also I realize the talents and ten minas parables are similar but not the same in contents i have to examine all this in detail. the context is important but you gave me a preview i can use for further research. I like to dig, lol thanks for that.

Shalom

 

[newnature]

i read again Luke ten minas parable but differently after what you said, its making its way..still looking at it probably wont have a clear idea for some time. also I realize the talents and ten minas parables are similar but not the same in contents i have to examine all this in detail. the context is important but you gave me a preview i can use for further research. I like to dig, lol thanks for that.

Shalom

Matthew 22:14, the parable is not a lottery, it is a sequence, the garment is offered, the garment is declined, the Judas word falls, the muzzle lands, the binding follows, the direction reverses from inward to outward and at the end, one line, many invited, few refined, many heard the call, few let it change what they were wearing. You know the difference between hearing something and letting it change you, between attending a room and being present in it, between sitting at a table and being prepared for what the table requires, that is the contrast Matthew draws. Kletoi and eklektoi, invited and refined, two different words placed side by side to name the distance between showing up and being ready.

Trying to be ready for what the table requires, like with the talents, take the risk, let the risk change you.

Matthew 22:13, the invited who became select, the summoned who became fitted, the ones who heard the call and then became what the occasion required and Revelation 17:14 completes the progression that the parable only begins. Called and chosen and faithful, three stages, not two, called is the widest door, chosen is the narrower passage, faithful, pistoi, is the innermost room. The parable gives you the first two, Revelation adds the third and the direction is always the same, inward, closer to center, the exact opposite of exoteron. You see the geometry now, the man was cast exoteron, further out, the progression in Revelation moves the other direction, called and chosen and faithful, each step moves inward, closer to the center of what is being offered.

 

[newnature]

Both the Parable of the Minas and the Talents are a parable about Satan's plan for while he is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years. The man in both parables is Satan and how he will enable his good and faithful servants to impede the period of peace during God's establishment of His Everlasting Kingdom on the earth.

The man who goes away to get a kingdom believes that he is entitled to have the harvest of Souls even though he did not plant the fields or watered the seeds scattered. Revelation 12 is another revelation of the meaning within these parables, and we know that as soon as the man, i.e. Satan, goes away to supposedly get his kingdom, some of his servants, i.e. Israel, send a delegation after Satan to state that they no longer want Satan to be their master. In both the parable of the Minas and in Rev 12 we learn that when Satan is able to roam the face of the earth that he wants to kill the servants who no longer want Satan to be their master when he returns.

People who spiritualise the scripture such that every part of the scriptures is always about Christ/Jesus often have no understanding at all.

Shalom

 

[newnature]

What the?

Did you actually read what I had posted because it is relevant to what is unfolding today and in our near future.

 

[newnature]

Sorry @newnature, but I do not believe that you have grasped what I had posted in #2 above. None of your posts where you have referenced what I posted in response to your post #4 has dealt with what I had posts in my post #2.

At the moment you are talking at me as if I have no understanding.

Armageddon is presently unfolding before us and will occur when the kings of the earth assemble at a place called Armageddon to be judged as foretold in Isaiah 24:21-22 around the year 2045 AD plus or take a year or two on either side.

Isaiah 24:21-22 tells us that the beasts, i.e. the four winds of heaven, will be judged along with Satan and the Little Horn in heaven and will be gathered with the judged kings of the earth and all will be imprisoned at the same time in the Bottomless Pit for 1,000 years before they are released for a little while period to do their worst.

In Ezekiel God informed the prophet that after the Armageddon event, as Paul indicated in Rom 11:25b-26, that God will gather the Israelites to Himself and plant them in His fertile soil and teach them about the religion which speaks of His Salvation Grace. In Ezekiel 36 God also told the Prophet that He would enter into a covenant of Peace with Israel for a period of time, i.e. 1,000 years, before the judged entities will be released for a period of time from the Bottomless pit and will be allowed to wonder across the face of the earth during the Little While Period of time at the end of the Seventh Age before the time of the final judgement.

I probably will not be drawing any breath around 2045 AD when the Armageddon Judgement will occur. If Armageddon has not occurred around 2045 AD then all of my posts on this forum will be like chaff that will be blown away just after that time.

Matt 24:32, indicates when the end of this present age will occur and when Armageddon will occur.

Shalom

 

[Jay Ross]

i read again Luke ten minas parable but differently after what you said, its making its way..still looking at it probably wont have a clear idea for some time. also I realize the talents and ten minas parables are similar but not the same in contents i have to examine all this in detail. the context is important but you gave me a preview i can use for further research. I like to dig, lol thanks for that.

Shalom

Perhaps this comparison of the two parables will help.

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The above comparison table of the two parables show just how similar the two parables are.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Perhaps this comparison of the two parables will help.

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The above comparison table of the two parables show just how similar the two parables are.

what software do you use for this? its interesting.

 

[Jay Ross]

what software do you use for this? its interesting.

a programmed personal brain that knows how to sort the data.

 

[LoveYeshua]

a programmed personal brain that knows how to sort the data.

so these tables are from your personal studies then, that is nice.

 

[Jay Ross]

so these tables are from your personal studies then, that is nice.

It is in one table in a Excell worksheet that could only be printed on two formatted pages in a word document.

If you chase through the Greek text, you will find that the "man" goes away into "a very large voluminous pit."

The time span from John's Book of Revelation from when he goes way to when he returns is just over 1,000 years. Isaiah 24:21-22 describes just how Satan is judged in heaven and dispatched into a pit to await the time of his punishment.

I believe that the table comparison justifies my understanding that the parables are about Satan's plan to impede the establishment of God's Everlasting Kingdom through the efforts of Satan's good and faithful servants. Revelation 12 mirrors the same events.

It is interesting that many people use the modern day meaning of "Talent" as an "ability" to do something like win souls, whereas the meaning in Jesus' time was that a "talent" was a very heavy mass of some particular precious metal, which has a large monetary value.

Using the Parable of the Talents to evangelise people so that they also become disciples is just so wrong.

Shalom

 

[newnature]

Matthew 4:17, from that time Jesus is announcing, to turn around. In Hebrew, the word “repent” is literally “to turn around,” there’s something happening that requires you to go in a different direction, the Kingdom of Heaven has come near. The Kingdom of Heaven has touched down right here, right now, you guys need to turn around and pay attention. This is unique to Matthew, Jesus’ message about the Kingdom of Heaven here, is clearly not that it’s somewhere that you go, it’s somewhere that has arrived here. The substance of what it means to turn around and respond to the arrival of the Kingdom of Heaven, the Sermon on the Mount only makes sense as it’s unpacking a bigger program of Jesus. Jesus is launching both in teaching, but then with his actions and with this declaration of power over evil and over sickness and death itself, announcing that something new is happening and God has a Kingdom that he is bringing about, we need to realize, it’s here in our midst.