not sure about some ones beliefs why not ask?

[horsecamp]

on this board there are many christians and some or many of them may not believe as you do.Don't assume you know what they believe there by setting up some sort of straw man that you can easly knock down. That may impress some BUT it really is not communicating with them and what you wanted to know. and that is what do they really believe about this doctrine or that one.many times they may know what they believe and just find that a web page does a much better job than they ever could do of communicating there beliefs . If so they may post that for you to look at.if you want some one to look at a web page you certainly should do the same favor by looking at one some one may present to you.trying to find out and finding out what a person believes about a doctrinedoes not mean you will agree with that doctrine. But it does mean you respect the person presenting it .simply because he is a blood bought person that Jesus loved so much he died for.Gods blessings