Obama bearing false witness?

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1) I decided to check out Obama’s tax claims since he has previously voted to increase taxes on folks with income as low as $42000.I researched IRS tax tables for Tax Years 2000(Clinton) and 2007(With Bush Tax cuts included) .Without Bush Tax cuts,a person with a $5 Taxable Income will have their taxes doubled, from $1 to $2.A person with $1000 Taxable Income has to pay $50 more in taxes. This is before Obama credits.Obama also doesn’t say what tax base he gives his credit on- Clinton’s or Bush base.I undertand that Bush Tax cuts are to end in 2010, but a Super Dem Congress(GOD HELP US!!!) could probably revoke them prior to 2010. Here’s the data on average taxpayers:(in $)I used Single on tax tables for the example.TaxableIncome 2000 2007 tax increase w/o Bush cuts32000 5555 4430 1125 increase45000 9195 7680 1515 increase60000 13395 11430 1965 increase75000 17939 15180 2759 increase99000 25379 21838 3541 increaseThis proves that 1) President Bush’s Tax cuts ARE NOT JUST FOR THE RICH,as Senator Obama and Democrats claim DAILY2) Senator Obama’s claim that taxesfor the middle class, will not go up under his administration, is not true!!!!Even if he gives people at these income levels a $1000 tax credit, once Bush Tax cuts are revoked, their taxes will still increase over Tax year 2007.To check out additional incomes: Go to http://www.irs.gov, download pdf files for1040 Instructions for both years, then go to tax tables near the end of each file and compare year 200o (Clinton) vs, 2007 (Bush).2) Please ignore Obama's commercials on McCain policies. He leaves out the truth and here are just a couple of examples:a)McCain will cut your Social Security/Medicare in half: NOT TRUE- McCain in a bipartisan manner is open to all suggestions and knows action must be taken! Obama will not increase retirement age: therefore, he will increase SS taxes on all.
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McCain will make your health care cost more and you could lose your present employer healthcare: NOT TRUE- Obama will fine even small businesses for not providing healthcare. Employers will be forced to lay off people to pay for required healthcare. You willl be forced to have healthcare.What happened to Freedom?Hope you find this interesting AND VOTE McCain/ Palin and get others to do the same!I love Palin, McCain not so much, but I am voting against Obama, the Marxist who will drastically change America as we know it today!
 

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1) Hope you find this interesting AND VOTE McCain/ Palin and get others to do the same!I love Palin, McCain not so much, but I am voting against Obama, the Marxist who will drastically change America as we know it today!
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...Hope you find this interesting AND VOTE McCain/ Palin and get others to do the same!I love Palin, McCain not so much, but I am voting against Obama, the Marxist who will drastically change America as we know it today!
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This proves that 1) President Bush’s Tax cuts ARE NOT JUST FOR THE RICH,
I didn't know anyone claimed that Bush's tax cuts were just for the rich. Anyway, the difference between McCain's and Obama's proposed tax changes is that McCain wants across the board tax cuts while Obama only wants tax cuts for the non-rich (and increase "reverse tax" welfare for the poor). But, in future years, Obama will want to dramatically raise taxes on the middle-class to pay for his socialist programs.It is true that Bush's tax cuts mostly benefited the rich.
Even if he gives people at these income levels a $1000 tax credit, once Bush Tax cuts are revoked, their taxes will still increase over Tax year 2007.
No one has any intention of letting the "Bush taxcuts" expire. Bush's $1000 child tax credit is not indexed inflation and has not increased since it was introduced. Inflation will eat up the tax cuts.
a)McCain will cut your Social Security/Medicare in half: NOT TRUE-
I guess that's another reason not to vote for McCain. Bush and McCain also will not cut Social Security/Medicare taxes (the working man's tax).
McCain in a bipartisan manner is open to all suggestions and knows action must be taken! Obama will not increase retirement age: therefore, he will increase SS taxes on all.
SS is trillions of dollars in the black. There's no hurry to do anything about it. I'd be happy if our unfaithful leaders never do anything about it.
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McCain will make your health care cost more and you could lose your present employer healthcare: NOT TRUE-
McCain plans to raise everyone's health care costs by up to $5000.
Hope you find this interesting AND VOTE McCain/ Palin and get others to do the same!
Voting for the lessor of two evils is still evil. It's not even practical in this case.
 

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To Follower: It's obvious you are a follower and not a leader since every topic you tried to discuss was filled with false witness or ignorance on your part. Only you know which it is!1)You must be one of those OBAMA plants because it is obvious you are bearing false witness in his name! Do your homework and check out the tax tables www.irs.gov) from Clinton year 2000 and Bush year 2007. Everyone will have an increase in their taxes oince these are revoked. Even with Obama's $1000 credit, once the Bush Tax credits are revoked,people over $32000 and up will have an increase in their taxes, even though Obama promises no one will!2) OBAMA AND ALL DEMS HAVE STATED THEY Will let BUSH TAXCUTS EXPIRE IN 2010 as scheduled, but with DEMSand their lack of truth telling, if they get a super congress, they will probably revoke them in 2009.3)Obama can't cut Social Secutrity taxes or Medicare taxes, these programs are already in the red. Don't believe the lies!!!! He might give welfare and try to call it a tax cut ,but it is welfare to the 38% that don't pay taxes. Folks with AGI under $30000 with kids already get earned income credit, or free money.4) SS is in the black but will be broke by 2037 without increasing retirement age. Politicians steal from this trust fund yearly, especially the illegal's SS$ that go into the fund. This is a trust fund!!!! Obama stated he will not increase the retirement age so where do you think he'll get the money for the baby boomers that are just starting to retire in record numbers now?5) ANOTHER False witness! McCain wants to give everyone a healthcare tax credit of $5000 to help pay for you to get your own healthcare. That is more than double what it would cost to cover most families!GOD sent the spirit of slumber(Romans11:8) and a strong delusion to those who want to believe a lie. I am afraid you must be one of these folks that here the word CHANGE and believe it to be anything you want it to be. Like you are under a strong delusion!I will pray for you but remember only you can gain power by knowledge, and from your bogus statements you don't want the truth!
 

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God help us is McCain and Palin are elected. So many poor people will suffer with in-affordable health care. Palin is no fit to help run this country.
 

Jordan

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God help us is McCain and Palin are elected. So many poor people will suffer with in-affordable health care. Palin is no fit to help run this country.
O...K, yea, SUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRREEEEEEE!!!
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God help us is McCain and Palin are elected. So many poor people will suffer with in-affordable health care. Palin is no fit to help run this country.
your so right, obama has more experience than palin... (lol) its sad when the democratic nominee has less experience than the republican VP
 

Jordan

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God help us is McCain and Palin are elected. So many poor people will suffer with in-affordable health care. Palin is no fit to help run this country.
your so right, obama has more experience than palin... (lol) its sad when the democratic nominee has less experience than the republican VPWhen it comes to God's wisdom. Obama has none as he is a liberal. Palin therfore has more experience because she uses that wisdom God gives her.
 

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The election is in Gods hand now he and he alone contrils the nations we are done with these arguments.
 
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