Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

[LoveYeshua]

Dear GodsGrace,
Thanks for the detailed response. I will respond in a general way to your comments since they are primarily based upon your false belief that a person must add their own works to be saved. Scripture teaches that Christ does all the works, including giving a person their faith in Him. He is the Savior and He does the saving.

First of all, you must remember that mankind was created spiritually marred and subject to vanity. In this condition, mankind developed a carnal mind which causes mankind to sin. When a person sins, they become a child of the Devil who is condemned already.

Also, the carnal mind of man has a hatred for God and cannot understand God's ways, nor does it give a person the desire to follow Christ. If Christ didn't give a person the Early Rain, they would remain an unbeliever until they die.

Below is why Peter and the other apostles were able to recognize who Jesus was and why they had faith.

These verses apply:

Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

If Peter's ability to understand who Jesus was came from his own natural abilities, Christ would have told him so at that time. But Christ did not do so because mankind has no ability to "see" and accept who Jesus is a part from having at least a small measure of the Holy Spirit within them. For that reason, Christ tells Peter that the truth that was revealed to Him came from His Father in heaven and did not come from his own natural abilities (flesh and blood).

If the Father had not blessed Peter with eyes that can see, Peter would have never understood or accepted that Jesus was the Christ.

The truth that I explained above is a foundational concept that the carnal mind of man will not accept. The carnal mind tells the person that they have at least some good in them and that they have the ability to make the choice as to whether or not to have faith in Christ. However, this supposed free will ability is a lie from Satan. When a babe accepts this lie, they become a man of sin who sits in God's Temple claiming to be God who alone has a free will ability.

Since God causes all things to happen in this creation, even the evil that is in the world originates with God. When a person sins, it is because it was God's "will" for it to happen. Since this is what Paul taught to the babes in his churches, Paul was asked about the fairness of why God still holds a person accountable for their sins since God was the cause of it happening.

Here is the scripture:

Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Nothing in this creation happens by chance or by mankind's supposed free will ability. All things come from God - and that includes the evil in this world.

Consider these scriptures:

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Lam 3:38 Out of the mouth of the Most High doth not there proceed evil and good?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Ecc 7:13 Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked?

Prov 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Job 2:10 But he said to her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. We have also received good from God, and should we not receive evil? In all this Job did not sin with his lips.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The pathway to salvation that is presented in many of Christ's teachings includes a time of great tribulation where every babe will fall from grace and become apostate. The babe has no free will ability to avoid it happening to them because it was God's "will" for it to happen. As Mat 4:4 says, mankind is not saved (lives) by bread alone. The pathway to salvation includes a time of eating leavened bread which is the reason why a babe will become unfaithful and mixes in works with faith. When a babe does this mixing, they will no longer be under the New Covenant of Grace through Faith and will no longer be justified.

I want to address one other point that you made which concerns salvation. Mankind's salvation occurs when a person is spiritually made to be like Christ who does not sin and who only walks by the Spirit. In other words, mankind's salvation is being converted from a child of the Devil into being a child of God.

To accomplish a person's salvation, Christ will come to the person without their asking and without their permission (just like Christ did with Paul on the Damascus Road). When Christ comes, He will freely give the person a small measure of the Holy Spirit. The Early Rain will produce faith within the person after they hear the Gospel. It is this faith that justifies them before the Law and before God. However, at this point, the person remains unconverted and is therefore not saved yet. To be saved, Christ must appear to the person a second time (the second coming of Christ) and convert them. It is the person's faith that makes Christ's pathway straight for Him to come and do this work.

Since the time Paul's death, the pathway to salvation started including a time of being apostate. When a babe becomes apostate, they will follow Satan's false gospel which mixes works with faith. When a babe does this mixing, they have spiritually fornicated with Satan which makes them "unfaithful" (no longer a chaste virgin). In this condition, the pathway for Christ to appear to them a second time has been made "crooked" so He will not appear and convert them.

Because Satan teaches the crooked way of works, Satan is called the crooked serpent.

For the babes who are elect, Christ will come to them a second time and give them the baptism of the Holy Spirit. With the Latter Rain, the person's spiritual blindness will be healed and they will come out from Satan's deceptions. This is when the person will see the Abomination of Desolation that previously occurred within themselves.

After the person's faith has been restored by the Latter Rain, Christ's pathway will again be made straight. Christ will then immediately appear to them and the Day of the Lord will commence. During this judgment, Christ will remove and destroy the spirit of anti-Christ and the person's marred spirit which has made them carnally minded and sinful. In Christ's spiritual language, mankind's marred and sinful spirit is commonly called a harlot or a Great Harlot.

Here is a scripture that shows this judgment:

Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field (contained in one person); the one shall be taken (the spirit of anti-Christ/man of sin), and the other left (Holy Spirit/child of God). 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill (contained in one person); the one shall be taken (the Great Harlot/marred spirit), and the other left (new spirit with a divine nature).

After this judgment is complete, the individual will be converted and saved.

Joe

you wrote"All things come from God - and that includes the evil in this world." that is blasphemy Joseph..

 

[ProDeo]

Dear GodsGrace,
Thanks for the detailed response. I will respond in a general way to your comments since they are primarily based upon your false belief that a person must add their own works to be saved.

It's not false at all.

Allow me to correct you,

a person must add their own works to be saved.

a person must keep (God prepared) works to remain saved.

Scripture :

Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Efez 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Efez 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Blessings.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, I agree milllions will, did you see the advancements in robotics, BMW is now replacing humans to assemble cars in their manufacturing plants, they use humanoid robots and they double up in speed about every 6 months, work long shifts before needing to recharge..

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It's a problem.
Eventually about 70% of jobs will be dominated/usurped by AI.
Already there's talk of a universal income.
That's a problem too.

 

[Pearl]

Repentance of sin and accepting/ receiving JESUS as saviour is the will of God.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

a person must keep (God prepared) works to remain saved.

Scripture :

Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Efez 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Efez 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Precious friend, wouldn't that "be a contradiction"?

 

[PS95]

Precious friend, wouldn't that "be a contradiction"?

I don't see it as a contradiction except I would change the word "must" to "will".
We do not teach Antinomianism, and if you do you have no credibility on this thread. A person who is saved- loves God and will keep His commands. It does a person no good whatsoever to say they are saved and not do as the Lord says. The one who loves Him obeys Him not out of wanting to earn, but out of Love for Him. And we love Him because he first loved us. He changes our hearts and minds. So we can really take no credit. It is God working in us.

 

[PS95]

Repentance of sin and accepting/ receiving JESUS as saviour is the will of God.

yes and walking in LOVE.

 

[soberxp]

And many more will be losing their jobs...
in the millions.

I think people will come to realize that a more humane service is more comfortable.

 

[ProDeo]

Precious friend, wouldn't that "be a contradiction"?

I don't see a contradiction, both v9 and v10 speak about works, but their nature is different.

Given that Paul does not contradict himself :

v9 - works without God's saving grace through Jesus won't save. Note v9 is about the Mosaic Law.

v10 - is about the new covenant (Luke 22:20), grace + works/fruits saves.

Works/fruits should not be a big problem once you have received the indwelling Holy Spirit after repentance, as long as one starts to listen and obey His voice (confirmed by Scripture) in the new created conscience. A life during experience.

 

[FaithWillDo]

you wrote"All things come from God - and that includes the evil in this world." that is blasphemy Joseph..

Dear LoveYeshua,
I follow the teachings of God's Word and not those of man or the apostate church.

Why won't you believe the verses that I quoted? They are not hard to understand.

So why did God create evil?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God uses evil for His good and righteous purpose of producing new offspring who are like Him and who will have a knowledge of good and evil.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

To accomplish God's purpose for mankind to experience evil, He placed the tree of the knowledge of good & evil in the Garden of Eden. He then caused Adam and Eve to eat from it. Adam and Eve's sin did not happen because they made a bad choice. It happened because it was God's "will" for it to happen. As I said, nothing happens in this world that God does not cause to happen. God is in full control and will do as He pleases because He is God.

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of the heavens, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Another point: God never just "allows" bad things to happen as is commonly taught by the apostate church. And since the apostate church falsely believes that God gave mankind a free will ability, they also teach that God was taking a chance when He gave Adam and Eve that ability.

The apostate church then applies this same line of reasoning as to whether or not a person will accept or reject Christ. They claim (as you do) that a person must choose Christ and develop their own faith in Him by exercising their gift of free will that they claim God gave them. And though they usually won't admit it, they are, in fact, teaching that the people who make the right choice are somehow smarter, wiser or less evil than the people who reject Christ. This belief makes for a very self-righteous Christian who Christ will reject.

Because God believes it is necessary for mankind to experience evil, God created it and even put Satan in this world to tempt mankind so that evil would flourish. If God did not create evil, there would not be any evil for mankind to experience.

Ecc 1:13 13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: It is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

If mankind does not experience evil, mankind would not be able to gain a knowledge of it. And if mankind lacks this knowledge, how can mankind truly understand and appreciate the goodness of God? They couldn't.

Furthermore, God then holds mankind accountable for the evil that He causes them to do. Why? So that mankind can learn right from wrong. Therefore, God finds fault with mankind for their sins even though it was His "will" that caused them to sin in the first place.

Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Here is an example:

Ezek 14:9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

Because God works within mankind in this way, mankind will frequently view God's ways as being unfair and unrighteous as you do.

Here is Paul's reply to this belief:

Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

Joe

 

[FaithWillDo]

Although,, Jesus could certainly be correct literally of the word sword that He used as a metaphor for violence and any form of weapon, I including words.
Two reasons why it would likely not be your interpretation.
A. In the context He was using that phrase,
“52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? ”
Matthew 26:52-54 KJV

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Obviously nothing to do with conversion.

B. The word perish is never used in scripture pertaining to a death to self or conversation experience, in fact, the exact opposite.

“15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. ”
John 3:15-16 KJV

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Dear Brakelite,
So you believe that all who take up the sword will die by the sword???

Understanding Christ's words the way you do makes Christ out to be a liar. Certainly not everyone who takes up a physical sword will die by a physical sword. Even if you claim that the sword represents violence, not everyone who uses violence will die by violence. There are countless examples.
Joe

 

[GRACE ambassador]

....you have no credibility on this thread.

Ok, I accept; What Does Have Credibility Is God's Word Of Truth, Correct?:

Did you know God Has Three Tenses Of Eternal Salvation?

Did you know That all Grace Through faith [ Eternally ] Saved believers will be
Judged For Both "good and BAD works"?:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own REWARD
according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are
God’s building... - - - - - - - - - - ( ↑↑ ALL the Eternally Saved-By-God "members"! ✓ )

...According to The Grace of God Which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid The
Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.
For other foundation can no man lay than That is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.

Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because it shall be
Revealed By fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work
abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a REWARD.

If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;
yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)

Thus, Making all Of The Following [ Eternal Salvation Credible Scriptures ] True?:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
+ Update
+
God's Eternal Assurance
+
God's Eternal Life Insurance

Conclusion: Yes, I agree "we should [ for Proper building ] obey His [ Which Ones? ] Commandments
out of love" for:

The Precious Saviour, The Lord Jesus Christ!​

Amen.

cc: @ProDeo and @soberxp
See you'all In God's Great GloryLand? ♫ ↑

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[FaithWillDo]

It's not false at all.

Allow me to correct you,

a person must add their own works to be saved.

a person must keep (God prepared) works to remain saved.

Scripture :

Efez 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Efez 2:9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Efez 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Blessings.

Dear ProDeo,
You said:
A person must keep (God prepared) works to remain saved.

After a person is converted, they can never lose their salvation or not perform good works. Why? Because it is God who causes them to "will" and to "do".

Phil 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The good works are His works that He does through the person.

Isa 26:12 O Jehovah, thou appointest peace to us, for, all our works also thou hast wrought for us.

However, scripture does teach that babes (who are unconverted) will lose their salvation because they remain spiritually blind and carnally minded. In that condition, they will 100% of the time fall for the deceptions of Satan and will accept his false gospel that mixes works with faith. When a believer mixes works with faith, they have become unfaithful and will have committed the one and only sin that leads to death.

Joe

 

[PS95]

Ok, I accept; What Does Have Credibility Is God's Word Of Truth, Correct?:

Did you know God Has Three Tenses Of Eternal Salvation?

Did you know That all Grace Through faith [ Eternally ] Saved believers will be
Judged For Both "good and BAD works"?:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own REWARD
according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are
God’s building... - - - - - - - - - - ( ↑↑ ALL the Eternally Saved-By-God "members"! ✓ )

...According to The Grace of God Which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid The
Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth Thereupon.

For other foundation can no man lay than That is laid, Which Is Jesus Christ.
Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for The Day Shall Declare it, because it shall be
Revealed By fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work
abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a REWARD.

If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself Shall Be Saved;
yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)

Thus, Making all Of The Following [ Eternal Salvation Credible Scriptures ] True?:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
+ Update
+
God's Eternal Assurance
+
God's Eternal Life Insurance

Conclusion: Yes, I agree "we should [ for Proper building ] obey His [ Which Ones? ] Commandments
out of love" for:

The Precious Saviour, The Lord Jesus Christ!​

Amen.

cc: @ProDeo and @soberxp
See you'all In God's Great GloryLand? ♫ ↑

Extra study?: Handling The Word Of Life

I'm sorry there are too many links to read here. I would prefer if you could just state your case in a few sentences.
Here are 2 sentences that sum it up- which is all Pro Deo was saying IMHO.
Faith produces good works.- a faith that doesn't is dead.
It's not rocket science.
We are not under the law but are under the Law of Christ.
If we love Him we will obey Him.

 

[Behold]

Jesus said THOSE THAT DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER will see heaven.

The will of the Father is not that you pray to Mary, or be water baptized or do a lot of works.

The will of the Father is that you "believe on Jesus whom God sent".

That's God's Will that gets you into Heaven, and nothing else can.

 

[GodsGrace]

Dear GodsGrace,
Thanks for the detailed response. I will respond in a general way to your comments since they are primarily based upon your false belief that a person must add their own works to be saved. Scripture teaches that Christ does all the works, including giving a person their faith in Him. He is the Savior and He does the saving.

First of all, you must remember that mankind was created spiritually marred and subject to vanity. In this condition, mankind developed a carnal mind which causes mankind to sin. When a person sins, they become a child of the Devil who is condemned already.

Also, the carnal mind of man has a hatred for God and cannot understand God's ways, nor does it give a person the desire to follow Christ. If Christ didn't give a person the Early Rain, they would remain an unbeliever until they die.

Below is why Peter and the other apostles were able to recognize who Jesus was and why they had faith.

These verses apply:

Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 13:16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

EDITED FOR SPACE

After this judgment is complete, the individual will be converted and saved.

Joe

Before I reply to the above...
I replied to ALL of your verses.

Why are you sending me new ones?

Please reply to the verses I provided for you - showing how a person must BELIEVE FIRST in order to be saved.
God does NOT give us faith first so that we could believe.

We believe and then we have the faith necessary for salvation.

Apparently you don't agree with the verses I posted which are teachings from Paul and Matthew.

Perhaps you could go through the verses and post your understanding of what Paul and Jesus are teaching (in mMatthew),

Apparently you also do not believe Jesus when He states that only those that do the will of the Father will see heaven.
Obeying the Father means doing good works.
Apparently you don't believe the Father requires obedience.

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.


Will wait for your reply.

 

[GodsGrace]

The will of the Father is not that you pray to Mary, or be water baptized or do a lot of works.

The will of the Father is that you "believe on Jesus whom God sent".

That's God's Will that gets you into Heaven, and nothing else can.

You must pray to Mary a lot.
You seem obsessed.

 

[GodsGrace]

I think people will come to realize that a more humane service is more comfortable.

What do you think is a more humane service?

 

[GodsGrace]

Repentance of sin and accepting/ receiving JESUS as saviour is the will of God.

What exactly does it mean to receive Jesus as Savior?

And is Jesus only your Savior or is He also your Lord?

 

[GodsGrace]

Dear ProDeo,
You said:
A person must keep (God prepared) works to remain saved.

After a person is converted, they can never lose their salvation or not perform good works. Why? Because it is God who causes them to "will" and to "do".

Phil 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

The good works are His works that He does through the person.

Isa 26:12 O Jehovah, thou appointest peace to us, for, all our works also thou hast wrought for us.

However, scripture does teach that babes (who are unconverted) will lose their salvation because they remain spiritually blind and carnally minded. In that condition, they will 100% of the time fall for the deceptions of Satan and will accept his false gospel that mixes works with faith. When a believer mixes works with faith, they have become unfaithful and will have committed the one and only sin that leads to death.

Joe

You obviously do not understand that if Jesus is doing all the work for us....

then it is Jesus who is responsible if we disobey God,,,fall away,,,,and become lost.

Apparently you believe it is GOD that causes man to sin.