Our inner child needs divine love

[Ronald David Bruno]

Did God make us anything less by the Cross of Christ?

The born again are "made righteous"......as having become...."the righteousness of GOD.... In Christ".

"imputed Righteousness" isn't part time.

You have it, or you don't.

You're born again, or you're not.

"but what if i"

"but yesterday, i"

"but im having trouble with "".


A.) "MADE Righteous".


see that "made"? That means you didn't do it.

WELCOME To : Salvation

""Its a "GIFT" of Righteousness" that lasts for as long as God lives.

Yes, I gree that our spirit is holy (set apart, purified, wearing the righteousness of Christ imputed to us). Yet our actions at times are fleshly.
At this time I think it is crucial to examine how we are put together: body, soul and spirit. Our spirits were cleansed, yet our souls (mind, or heart, emotions and will) do not always demonstrate this purity in Christ. There is this battle going on between soul and spirit.
The soul and the spirit are not exactly the same! Just as the design of the Old Temple is a template of man, the Most Holy Place was separate, where God dwelled. The rest of the Temple was not. This is likened to man's nature. God dwells in our most holy place, separate from our fleshly selves, where sin dwells. We are fearfully made, highly integrated beings, yet at death our spirits ( pure and holy, everything that is good about us) separates from our flesh, so that we are presented to the Father, pure.
Here is proof that soul ad spirit are not exactly the same:
"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 4:12

 

[Episkopos]

Yes, I gree that our spirit is holy (set apart, purified, wearing the righteousness of Christ imputed to us). Yet our actions at times are fleshly.
At this time I think it is crucial to examine how we are put together: body, soul and spirit. Our spirits were cleansed, yet our souls (mind, or heart, emotions and will) do not always demonstrate this purity in Christ. There is this battle going on between soul and spirit.
The soul and the spirit are not exactly the same! Just as the design of the Old Temple is a template of man, the Most Holy Place was separate, where God dwelled. The rest of the Temple was not. This is likened to man's nature. God dwells in our most holy place, separate from our fleshly selves, where sin dwells. We are fearfully made, highly integrated beings, yet at death our spirits ( pure and holy, everything that is good about us) separates from our flesh, so that we are presented to the Father, pure.
Here is proof that soul ad spirit are not exactly the same:
"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Hebrews 4:12

Actually the spirit of a man returns to the Lord...and the body returns to the dust of the earth...but we are not a spirit or body but a living soul. It is the soul that will be judged..it is who WE are. We are a soul that inhabits a temporal body.

So we can bury our talent of initial grace and leave it in the spirit...or what has been deposited in our spirits...so that we will be rejected from the kingdom. The fruit is to be produced through the soul. It s the soul that is made holy when we use the directions located in our spirits to go to God to be covered by His grace. A grace that affects the soul so that we bear eternal fruit.

Otherwise we can have all the grace in the world in our spirits...but unless it breaks out into our lives on the soul level...it doesn't help our condition at all. In fact, quite the opposite. How many other people would do so much better than us if THEY had what we did as potential?

So we will be judged HARDER for having received the initial grace in the spirit if we have not allowed that grace to have the effet God means for it to have. We are made responsible by the Holy Spirit....not less so.

 

[Behold]

The soul and the spirit are not exactly the same!

The Spirit is born again.....

The "soul" this is the mind realm...... = will, emotions..THINKING...ect. Its not born again. You have deal with it.

When a person becomes a "New Creation, IN Christ"..... that is the born again spirit.......not the mind, will, or emotions.

So, when Paul teaches about "works of the FLESH", he is not talking about your body.

When Paul tells you to renew your mind....>He is not talking about your body or your Spirit.

This phrase... "in the FLESH", means "in the carnal mind"..

How does the "Mind of the flesh" or the "carnal mind" think about Salvation?

Like this..

"do this, do that, keep commandments, its all about self self self doing">.. = SELF Saving.

What is real Faith, that is the renewed mind?

"Christ saved me and keeps me saved"....."Jesus is salvation".... :"Jesus is eternal life".

 

[Behold]

Actually the spirit of a man returns to the Lord...but we are not a spirit but a living soul.

That sounds like something you would hear if you contacted the "Psychic Hotline".

Try to understand that the "born again Spirit" is the 'New Creation In Christ"...

Its the Son/Daughter of God.

Your Soul, is your mind, will, and emotions.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Actually the spirit of a man returns to the Lord...but we are not a spirit but a living soul. It is the soul that will be judged..it is who WE are.

We are body, soul AND spirit.The soul of the reprobate is judged. Christians are saved from the judgment of sins. You are either saved ( born again) or not.
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly, and I pray Gid your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. " 1 Thes.5:23

So we can bury our talent and leave it in the spirit...or what has been deposited in our spirits...so that we will be rejected from the kingdom.

This trichotomy is highly integrated. Talents are given at birth. So they would be integrated in our souls. Our spirit is dead at birth. Later on in life, God quickens our spirit. We become a "new creature". Spiritual gifts are given at this time.

The fruit is to be produced through the soul. It s the soul that is made holy when we use the directions located in our spirits to go to God to be covered by His grace

We worship and communicate with God in spirit. Our spirit communes with the Holy Spirit in our Temple. Fruit of the Spirit transcends outward as we love others. So yes, sanctification which is instant concerning the spirit, is a process concerning the soul. "Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind ..." We grow through this integrated system, receiving truth from all parts. Whatever is not true is filtered out. Our spirits only receive truth and remain our pure selves. But the soul ( mind, emotions, will, personality, talents) receives and delivers not only good stuff, but bad stuff. The Holy Spirit works in us to separate the junk over time so that we can deliver good fruit.
I don't pretend to understand the incredible complexity of the trichotomy, I just know in part. We are fearfully made.

Otherwise we can have all the grace in the world in our spirits...but unless it breaks out into our lives on the soul level...it doesn't help our condition at all. In fact, quite the opposite.

It will. Why? Because God has individually planned good works for us to do and they will get done - it is part of His sovereign plan happening in precision, finely tuned. The good that He intends to happen through us will happen. He factors in all our blunders.
For instance,one person could waste many years fumbling around, going to a false church, even attempting to become a pastor of tha church and deliver false doctrines, believing he has the whole truth, when in fact, he understands only part of it, mixed with flaws in his doctrines. This can prohibit growth and good fruit. He can leadbothers astray. Does this effect God's overall plan? No, He is aware of this and has factored it in. Good and Evil is all under His control. This guy, who is disfunctional and could be for many years, mat or may not experience a good ending, with planned events and corrections up ahead, revelations... " God causes ALL THINGS to work together for good, for those who love God and are called to His purpose." However, if this guy does not really love God and is not called to His purpose, he is working for the enemy, is not redeemable and God allows for all those individuals as well - for His purpose.

So we will be judged HARDER for having received the initial grace in the spirit.

I believe the Christian has a pass from judgments of sin. Christ died for our sins and therefore we go from death to life eternal. The only judgments we will receive that are based on our performance, cooperation with God's plan and will will be expressed in terms of greater or fewer rewards in heaven. We all get in, but some receive more rewards. Obviously the disciples, Moses, Elijah, People like Billy Graham receive more than the rest of us. What kind of rewards could this be _ in heaven _ I have always pondered? Well, if whatever we did in cooperation with God, that contributed to someone else's salvation, that personal relationship you had with them is an eternal reward. So the rewards are not things, they are loving relationships. How many we have now can give us an idea of our rewards up there. Imagine bringing millions to the Lord. I am happy to have only contributed to a few who got saved, maybe more I don't know. But when I arrive, I will find out ... and maybe get a "Well done, good and faithful servant" from the Lord?

 

[ChristisGod]

We are body, soul AND spirit.The soul of the reprobate is judged. Christians are saved from the judgment of sins. You are either saved ( born again) or not.
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly, and I pray Gid your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. " 1 Thes.5:23


This trichotomy is highly integrated. Talents are given at birth. So they would be integrated in our souls. Our spirit is dead at birth. Later on in life, God quickens our spirit. We become a "new creature". Spiritual gifts are given at this time.

We worship and communicate with God in spirit. Our spirit communes with the Holy Spirit in our Temple. Fruit of the Spirit transcends outward as we love others. So yes, sanctification which is instant concerning the spirit, is a process concerning the soul. "Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind ..." We grow through this integrated system, receiving truth from all parts. Whatever is not true is filtered out. Our spirits only receive truth and remain our pure selves. But the soul ( mind, emotions, will, personality, talents) receives and delivers not only good stuff, but bad stuff. The Holy Spirit works in us to separate the junk over time so that we can deliver good fruit.
I don't pretend to understand the incredible complexity of the trichotomy, I just know in part. We are fearfully made.

It will. Why? Because God has individually planned good works for us to do and they will get done - it is part of His sovereign plan happening in precision, finely tuned. The good that He intends to happen through us will happen. He factors in all our blunders.
For instance,one person could waste many years fumbling around, going to a false church, even attempting to become a pastor of tha church and deliver false doctrines, believing he has the whole truth, when in fact, he understands only part of it, mixed with flaws in his doctrines. This can prohibit growth and good fruit. He can leadbothers astray. Does this effect God's overall plan? No, He is aware of this and has factored it in. Good and Evil is all under His control. This guy, who is disfunctional and could be for many years, mat or may not experience a good ending, with planned events and corrections up ahead, revelations... " God causes ALL THINGS to work together for good, for those who love God and are called to His purpose." However, if this guy does not really love God and is not called to His purpose, he is working for the enemy, is not redeemable and God allows for all those individuals as well - for His purpose.

I believe the Christian has a pass from judgments of sin. Christ died for our sins and therefore we go from death to life eternal. The only judgments we will receive that are based on our performance, cooperation with God's plan and will will be expressed in terms of greater or fewer rewards in heaven. We all get in, but some receive more rewards. Obviously the disciples, Moses, Elijah, People like Billy Graham receive more than the rest of us. What kind of rewards could this be _ in heaven _ I have always pondered? Well, if whatever we did in cooperation with God, that contributed to someone else's salvation, that personal relationship you had with them is an eternal reward. So the rewards are not things, they are loving relationships. How many we have now can give us an idea of our rewards up there. Imagine bringing millions to the Lord. I am happy to have only contributed to a few who got saved, maybe more I don't know. But when I arrive, I will find out ... and maybe get a "Well done, good and faithful servant" from the Lord?

Yes the judgement seat of Christ (bema ) used 4 times in the N.T. Romans 14:10, 2 Cor 5:10, 1 Cor 9:24-27 . Its our works not sin that is judged like the parables teach how we use the talents we have been given for the kingdom of Christ/God. Its a rewards or loss of rewards for believers as our sins have already been dealt with by Christ.

 

[Mr E]

Wrapping up here. Time to stick a fork in this one.... it's done.

There is no mention of "the inner child needing divine love" anywhere in scripture. It doesn't exist. It's made up by @Episkopos and is as fake and phony as the rest of the nonsense he spouts off.

This life is not about trying to attain some higher walk, or feeding your inner child..... stuff that.

It's not about becoming a better person. The goal isn't 'a better you.' It's LESS of you.

Jesus said- 'Beware of false shepherds.'

Don't bother asking Epis for the key to this door either-- he doesn't have it.


“I tell you the solemn truth, the one who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber. The one who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. The doorkeeper opens the door for him, and the sheep hear his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought all his own sheep out, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they recognize his voice. They will never follow a stranger, but will run away from him because they do not recognize the stranger’s voice.” Jesus told them this parable, but they did not understand what he was saying to them.

Jesus said-

“Watch out for false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are voracious wolves. You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from thorns or figs from thistles, are they? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree is not able to bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree to bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will recognize them by their fruit.