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US intelligence: Iran will be able to build first nuclear bomb by February 2009DEBKAfile Exclusive ReportOctober 21, 2008, 5:58 PM (GMT+02:00) US intelligence’s amended estimate, that Iran will be ready to build its first bomb just one month after the next US president is sworn in, is disclosed by DEBKAfile’s Washington sources as having been relayed as a guideline to the Middle East teams of both presidential candidates, Senators John McCain and Barack Obama. The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”DEBKAfile’s military sources cite the new US timeline: By late January, 2009, Iran will have accumulated enough low-grade enriched uranium (up to 5%) for its “break-out” to weapons grade (90%) material within a short time. For this, the Iranians have achieved the necessary technology. In February, they can move on to start building their first nuclear bomb. US intelligence believes Tehran has the personnel, plans and diagrams for a bomb and has been running experiments to this end for the past two years. The UN International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna last week asked Tehran to clarify recent complex experiments they conducted in detonating nuclear materials for a weapon, but received no answer.The same US evaluation adds that the Iranian leadership is holding off its go-ahead to start building the bomb until the last minute so as to ward off international pressure to stop at the red line.This development together with the galloping global economic crisis will force the incoming US president to go straight into decision-making without pause on Day One in the Oval Office. He will have to determine which urgent measures can serve best for keeping a nuclear bomb out of the Islamic republic’s hands - diplomatic or military – and how to proceed if those measures fail. His knowledge of the challenge colored Sen. Biden’s additional words in Seattle: “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”Israel’s political and military leaders also face a tough dilemma that can no longer be put off of whether to strike Iran’s nuclear installations militarily in the next three months between US presidencies before the last window closes, or take a chance on coordination with the next president. Waiting for the “international community” to do the job of stopping Iran, as urged by governments headed by Ariel Sharon and Ehud Olmert - and strongly advocated Tzipi Livni, foreign minister and would-be prime minister - has been a washout. Iran stands defiantly on the threshold of a nuclear weapon.
 

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The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”I was watching the O'Reilly Factor on Fox I believe when I heard this, and I want your opinion on something here.O'reilly said that if McCain got in, this predicted international crisis would not occur because they know McCain's been around awhile and wouldn't mess with him. What's your take on that?As for O'Reilly, he seemed amazed that the democrats themselves would admit such a thing as that could strike fear into the people. If Republicans said the same thing, they'd be accused of fear mongering so that the vote would swing to McCain.
 

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Iran doesn't even have a nuclear Weapons Program, so says the National Intelligence Estimate released within the past year. Here's one good reason for Obama to be in office, so we won't have a crazy warmonger in office just looking for an excuse to start killing people. We've been there and done that, and now we're paying for it.Iran cannot produce any weapon's grade uranium without being caught because their refinement facilities are closely monitored by the UN.
 

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Iran doesn't even have a nuclear Weapons Program, so says the National Intelligence Estimate released within the past year. Here's one good reason for Obama to be in office, so we won't have a crazy warmonger in office just looking for an excuse to start killing people. We've been there and done that, and now we're paying for it.Iran cannot produce any weapon's grade uranium without being caught because their refinement facilities are closely monitored by the UN.
You want a baby killing murderer in the office? What is wrong with you?
 

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Iran doesn't even have a nuclear Weapons Program, so says the National Intelligence Estimate released within the past year. Here's one good reason for Obama to be in office, so we won't have a crazy warmonger in office just looking for an excuse to start killing people. We've been there and done that, and now we're paying for it.Iran cannot produce any weapon's grade uranium without being caught because their refinement facilities are closely monitored by the UN.
Follower, Just keep sticking your head in the sand.
 

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Amen to that Tom some people I guess will hide from reality tell it literally lands on their doorstep Wonder what all those UN inspectors have been inspecting:)And what the UN sactions were for..
 

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The information prompted the assertion by Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden in Seattle Sunday, Oct. 19: “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”I was watching the O'Reilly Factor on Fox I believe when I heard this, and I want your opinion on something here.O'reilly said that if McCain got in, this predicted international crisis would not occur because they know McCain's been around awhile and wouldn't mess with him. What's your take on that?As for O'Reilly, he seemed amazed that the democrats themselves would admit such a thing as that could strike fear into the people. If Republicans said the same thing, they'd be accused of fear mongering so that the vote would swing to McCain.
Joe Biden is on the security counsil he is supposed to be the expert in Forgein affairs I think this makes this statement of extreme importance and we should pay attention to one who has knowledge that the common public does not know. I also think if Israel has faith in the Intellegence presented they will not wait until then before making a move against Iran with or without U.S. approval if thats so we may be talking weeks.
 

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Joe Biden is on the security counsil he is supposed to be the expert in Forgein affairs I think this makes this statement of extreme importance and we should pay attention to one who has knowledge that the common public does not know. I also think if Israel has faith in the Intellegence presented they will not wait until then before making a move against Iran with or without U.S. approval if thats so we may be talking weeks.
Agreed. This is something definitely to stay tuned for. Yes, I don't question Biden's expertise. But like O'reilly, I was also amazed that he'd say something to the public like this to alarm them. Candidates aside, he should be a little discrete, but maybe Biden thought that would help their cause.
 

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... maybe Biden thought ....
I think this is the main problem, Not sure if he does "think."
 

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You want a baby killing murderer in the office? What is wrong with you?
All sixteen US Intelligence Agencies say that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. The world authority, the International Atomic Energy Agency, also says Iran does not have a nuclear weapons facility. But, you know all these intelligence agencies are wrong because the Isreali DEBKAfile claims that they've been told by "Washington Sources" that... As with Iraq's fictitious WMDs, evidence doesn't matter to the Religious Right. Pray for peace but instigate war. McCain wants to kill babies in the middle-east and McCain has no interest in saving even one baby from abortion in the USA. No, I don't want a baby killer in office, so I'm not voting for either Obama or McCain.
 

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You want a baby killing murderer in the office? What is wrong with you?
All sixteen US Intelligence Agencies say that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. The world authority, the International Atomic Energy Agency, also says Iran does not have a nuclear weapons facility. But, you know all these intelligence agencies are wrong because the Isreali DEBKAfile claims that they've been told by "Washington Sources" that... As with Iraq's fictitious WMDs, evidence doesn't matter to the Religious Right. Pray for peace but instigate war.McCain wants to kill babies in the middle-east and McCain has no interest in saving even one baby from abortion in the USA. No, I don't want a baby killer in office, so I'm not voting for either Obama or McCain.
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I don't believe that for one second. And Obama is even worse. He hates Israel. And he has no commander-in-chief experience. No war experience whatsoever.I"m pretty sure Iran hates Israel.
 

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I don't believe that for one second.
I know.
And Obama is even worse. He hates Israel. And he has no commander-in-chief experience. No war experience whatsoever.
Obama isn't running for president of Israel (not that he has ever indicated that he hates Israel) and it's to Obama's credit that he doesn't have experience starting wars.
 

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I think this is the main problem, Not sure if he does "think."
ROFL.
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You mean he's been at the bar again? And not the type for Lawyers.
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FollowerI dont know where you get you information but its wrong they have never debated as to whether or not there was a nuclear weapons program the only thing thats been debated is how far along it is And if you were reading your Bible and listening to God you'd get off the wrong side and stop defening the Muslims.
 

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Biden said he didnt know there was any press in the room he was giving a speech to private donors
 

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I dont know where you get you information but its wrong they have never debated as to whether or not there was a nuclear weapons program the only thing thats been debated is how far along it is And if you were reading your Bible and listening to God you'd get off the wrong side and stop defening the Arabs.
Here is where I get the position of the Sixteen US intelligent agencies, "[We] Judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." Even if Iran had a nuclear program and were trying to create weapons-grade uranium, "All [US Intelligence] agencies recognize the possibility that this capability may not be attained until after 2015."http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdfIt is obvious that you're reasoning not from the evidence but backwards from a faulty religious doctrine. Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program and it would be next to impossible for them to produce nuclear bombs without being caught long before they could complete their first one. That has nothing to do with pro-arab bias. I am quoting from the combined conclusion of the US intelligence agencies, agencies on President Bush's payroll. If they have any bias, it's against Iran. PS, Iranians are not Arabs.PPS, All the intelligence agencies knew Saddam didn't have WMDs.
 

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Here is where I get the position of the Sixteen US intelligent agencies, "[We] Judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." Even if Iran had a nuclear program and were trying to create weapons-grade uranium, "All [US Intelligence] agencies recognize the possibility that this capability may not be attained until after 2015."http://www.dni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdfIt is obvious that you're reasoning not from the evidence but backwards from a faulty religious doctrine. Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program and it would be next to impossible for them to produce nuclear bombs without being caught long before they could complete their first one. That has nothing to do with pro-arab bias. I am quoting from the combined conclusion of the US intelligence agencies, agencies on President Bush's payroll. If they have any bias, it's against Iran. PS, Iranians are not Arabs.PPS, All the intelligence agencies knew Saddam didn't have WMDs.
Can you read "US intelligence’s amended estimate" that report you speaking of has been contested sense it came out it was never declared as 100% fact even the UN doubts it ... No it seems you are the one with wrong info because of your prejudged.. toward your Muslim friends... you are complaining because its debaka well Ive used them for 2 years because I have never found them wrong .. It really makes no difference what you think anyway ..what matters here is what Isreal believes...And what God says
 

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Follower,Keep sticking your head in the sand!
XD! How many times are you going to said that? By the way, I don't he will listen to God yet anyway.