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9 Key Points from Trump Campaign Press Conference on Challenges to Election Results

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JOEL B. POLLAK19 Nov 20200
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Rudy Giuliani and other lawyers representing President Donald Trump’s campaign outlined their case Thursday that the Nov. 3 presidential election was so deeply flawed in several key states that the results should be overturned in the president’s favor.

Giuliani said there was a pattern to the alleged irregularities in key states that suggested, he said, a “plan from a centralized place” to commit voter fraud in cities controlled by Democrats.

He said widespread adoption of vote-by-mail had allowed Democrats to take big-city corruption practices nationwide. “They picked the places where they could get away with it.”

Here are the key allegations the lawyers presented:

1. Observers were allegedly prevented from watching mail-in ballots being opened. Giuliani said that many mail-in ballots were opened without observers being able to check that they were properly signed, a key protection against fraud. Those votes, he said, were “null and void,” especially where the envelopes had been discarded, making recounts useless.

2. Allegedly unequal application of the law in Democratic counties. In Pennsylvania, whose state supreme court created new, relaxed voting rules before the election, Giuliani alleged that absentee voters in Democratic counties were allowed to “cure” defects in their ballots, while voters in Republican counties, which obeyed the state law as written, were not.

3. Voters allegedly arrived at the polls to discover other people had voted for them. Giuliani said that many provisional ballots cast in Pittsburgh were submitted by people who showed up to vote in person, only to be told that they had voted already. He alleged that Democrats had filled out absentee ballots for other people, hoping they would not show up.

4. Election officials were allegedly told not to look for defects in ballots, and to backdate ballots. Giuliani cited an affidavit from an official who swore she was told not to exclude absentee ballots for defects, and to backdate ballots so they would not appear to have been received after Election Day, to avoid a Supreme Court order to sequester those ballots.

5. Ballots casting votes for Joe Biden and no other candidates were allegedly run several times through machines. Giuliani said that there were 60 witnesses in Michigan who would attest to ballots being “produced” quickly and counted twice or thrice. He said that a minimum of 60,000 ballots, and a maximum of 100,000 ballots, were allegedly affected.

6. Absentee ballots were accepted in Wisconsin without being applied for first. Giuliani noted that Wisconsin state law was stricter regarding absentee ballots than most other states are, yet alleged that 60,000 absentee ballots were counted in the Milwaukee area, and 40,000 in the Madison area, without having been applied for properly by the voters who cast them.

7. There were allegedly “overvotes,” with some precincts allegedly recording more voters than residents, among other problems. Giuliani said there was an unusually large number of overvotes in precincts in Michigan and in Wisconsin, which he alleged was the reason that Republicans on the Wayne County Board of Canvassers had refused to certify the results there this week. He also alleged that there were some out-of-state voters in Georgia, and people who had cast votes twice there.

8. Voting machines and software are allegedly owned by companies with ties to the Venezuelan regime and to left-wing donor George Soros. Sidney Powell argued that U.S. votes were being counted overseas, and that Dominion voting machines and Smartmatic software were controlled by foreign interests, manipulating algorithms to change the results. Powell noted specifically that Smartmatic’s owners included two Venezuelan nationals, whom she alleged had ties to the regime of Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro. The legal team alleged that there were statistical anomalies, such as huge batches of votes for Biden, that could not be explained except as manipulation — which, they alleged, happened in the wee hours of the morning as vote-counting had stalled. (The companies have disputed these allegations vigorously.)

9. The Constitution provides a process for electing a president if the vote is corrupted. Jenna Ellis argued that the media, had usurped the power to declare the winner of the election. She made the point, citing Federalist No. 68, that the constitutional process of selecting a president had procedural safeguards against corruption and foreign influence.
Giuliani said that the campaign believed that enough votes were flawed — more than double the margins between Biden and Trump in key states — that the president had a path to victory.

Giuliani presented evidence in the form of sworn affidavits, citing two and noting that the campaign had many more from private individuals.

He noted that several lawsuits that had been dismissed had been filed by private individuals, not the campaign directly. He said lawsuits might be filed in Arizona, and that the campaign was also examining irregularities in New Mexico and Virginia, though he said he did not think there were enough disputed votes in the latter.

Giuliani also took on the media, arguing that they had provided misleading information and condoned threats against Trump’s legal team.

Joel B. Pollak is Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart News and the host of Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot on Sunday evenings from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. ET (4 p.m. to 7 p.m. PT). His newest e-book is The Trumpian Virtues: The Lessons and Legacy of Donald Trump’s Presidency. His recent book, RED NOVEMBER, tells the story of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary from a conservative perspective. He is a winner of the 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. Follow him on Twitter at @joelpollak.
 

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Shocking Video Of Joe Biden Groping Children and sniffing girl's hair emerges
I understand the creepy pedophile thing, but can someone explain to me the hair sniffing
thing?
Super creep! Super creep! Warning he attacks from behind!



That is CREEPY for an old man to be putting his hands on a little girls body, stroking her hair, her face, kissing her.
Think about it...he is a stranger to those girls.

UGH!
 
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There is a political gamble in your words. You believe the Supreme Court will overrule democracy.
The problem they have is, they are there to rule of the letter of the law not make it.
The best they could do is interpret the auditing of the election to be done more thoroughly based on gross failures.

But for this to be a ruling, the failures have to be there. As judges they do not make the law and are not free from being impeached.
It is the measure of their profession. Their expertise is to judge the law correctly, not make new law.

Now if one ran the Senate and Congress you could change the law, so things would become easy.
As far as Biden winning is concerned he has won. It is the legal process of certification that needs to confirm the declared result.
Trumps team are trying to challenge this process and failing to date. They claimed this week that it was other people trying except that does not wash when Judy turns up personally in Williamsport to put the case. If the judge dismisses the case without foundation, there is nothing for the supreme court to consider, because that is the whole point. You cannot consider a dismissal for lack of evidence and get it overturned unless you have evidence.

Now of course if the US has become a tin pot country where evidence does not matter, just who is putting the case forward, ie the president of the US, that is real corruption. There are corporations that sue people not because they have merit in their case, but to tie up money and resource in the targeted company, and silence them until the case is over. You can create censure of reporting by doing this, dragging things out for years.

The idea a president is doing this as the losing candidate in an election with the only intent at winning not through the ballot box but by legal means is corruption in its crudest sense. And it works because people now hate the opposition, and no holds barred on their description or demonisation of the opponents.

And you call for silence. I will not be silent because these issues have eternal and political significance. It is by shinning a light in the dark place that darkness does not come to rule and dominate. It is what Gods people do, for the good of all. It is what being salt and light is. It preserves the good and shows up the sin.

God bless you

This is a legal issue. We want the legal system to rule on the legality of what occurred.

We don't want the courts to overturn anything.

We want the courts to uphold the legal votes and cast down the illegal ones.

If Biden wins when that is done, then so be it. If Trump wins then all the better.

What exactly wrong with making sure that illegal votes not be counted?
 
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Yes I have listened to Trump and it does not connect with me because I am a thinker, logical and intellectual.

Why would it connect with you?

MAGA- is About America /Americans.

Glory to God,
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What exactly wrong with making sure that illegal votes not be counted?

Nothing at all...but then you are responding to a self-proclaimed logical intellectual....

Don't rock the boat...it might tip over.

Eh no, that 50 yr ploy has run its course!


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This is a legal issue. We want the legal system to rule on the legality of what occurred.

We don't want the courts to overturn anything.

We want the courts to uphold the legal votes and cast down the illegal ones.

If Biden wins when that is done, then so be it. If Trump wins then all the better.

What exactly wrong with making sure that illegal votes not be counted?
The mood music is overthrow no matter what because vote is fraudulent.

The trouble with showing exaguration and calling people fraudulant, without real evidence is evidence does not matter. Saying Biden should go to prison is another example of this.

The way you signal the strength of everything is showing its true scale, not suggesting millions of votes are false.

If you go for literal have won when you have just guesses that is irresponsible and unpresidential. I fully support an audit to show things are sound.

Clearly election rules need better consistency across the country, and better clarity for the public. But lying and stirring is foolish and echoing this helps no one. With right wing terror groups, you put civil servants lives at risk. Stealing an election is no joke and things will escalate after the Gorgia recount and Williamsport ruling.

The cost of recounts goes into millions of dollars, which means someone has to foot the bill, which simply means it will get ignored unless it has to happen.

I do not like messes but long run you have to get it right when all vote.

God bless you
 
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The mood music is overthrow no matter what because vote is fraudulent.

The trouble with showing exaguration and calling people fraudulant, without real evidence is evidence does not matter. Saying Biden should go to prison is another example of this.

The way you signal the strength of everything is showing its true scale, not suggesting millions of votes are false.

If you go for literal have won when you have just guesses that is irresponsible and unpresidential. I fully support an audit to show things are sound.

Clearly election rules need better consistency across the country, and better clarity for the public. But lying and stirring is foolish and echoing this helps no one. With right wing terror groups, you put civil servants lives at risk. Stealing an election is no joke and things will escalate after the Gorgia recount and Williamsport ruling.

The cost of recounts goes into millions of dollars, which means someone has to foot the bill, which simply means it will get ignored unless it has to happen.

I do not like messes but long run you have to get it right when all vote.

God bless you
Ohhh my!!! I guess you are not paying attention to what is going on? Keep talking...I have a sense of humor...how ever odd....lol Do you need a scope for that shot in the foot?
 

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The opening salvo just occurred...go to 58 minutes in..the start

Yes the MSM is totally corrupt and hysterical in playing games with the people it's clearly trying to create delusions. Nazi Germany would be proud of such warfare that the MSM are championing.
We have to expose the Socialist for what they truly are Satanist degenerate low life creeps.
 
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You expouse you are fully aware of the Bottom Line of How Things Work...

Scripturally-
Hear, Learn, wonder, doubt.
Continue hearing --->wisdom
Close your ears----->foolish
Continue hearing--->enlightenment
Close your ears----->deaf
Close your ears----->blind
Discover------------->truth
Truth---------------->trust
Trust---------------->commit
Commit------------->understanding
Understanding------>persecution
Persecution--------->comfort

Similar occurs in Society, with with a different Order and Outcome.

Hear, Learn, wonder, Doubt
Hear----Reputable------->Accept
Understanding----------->Last
Hear----Questionable---->Reject
Understanding----------->First
Continue to Hear--------->Wise
Discontinue to Hear------>Foolish
Accept-------------------->Patience
Reject--------------------->Demand
Demand------------------->Proof
Proof---------------------->Patience

It's an "Order" and "Way", established By God, of How His Creations were "Created" and a "Way"...By and Through Him...
"A WAY" His "Creations", can BE "MADE"...
OF an ORDER, in HIS "Likeness", His "Understanding".

Doubting...is a Natural man's Nature.
The TIDE ...Remains OR Turns....
• Hinging ON ONE Thing.
• Continuing TO Hear OR Discontinuing.

•It is A Fact...for a human Creation UNDERSTANDING..and PROOF...
•Is always AFTER...Continuing, Patience, Wisdom, Truth, Acceptance.

• It is a Fact...
Atheists - Demand Understanding upfront
Atheists - Demand Proof upfront

• It is a Fact...
Crooks, Thieves, Cheats, take every measure conceivable to Hide, Bury, Distance, from the Truth.

It is a Fact...
History has Repeatedly Revealed ...
For men "OF" this World...
Money, Money, Money...IS equal TO POWER
Power IS equal TO CONTROL.

It is a Fact...
For men "OF" this World...
POWER is Sought - TO "CONTROL" the World.

Call it what you will, by the "PROGRESSION"
OF terms...
Empire, Dynasty, Kingdom, Communism, Socalism, Globalism...
•The "GOAL".....is "World CONTROL"
•The "TACTIC"...is "BY ANY MEANS".

The Fact is...
A man "IN" this world, But Not "OF" this World...HAS a Gift...(from God Himself) that A Man "OF" this world DOES NOT Possess.

Matt 7
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

The Fact is:
There IS a "Them" and "Ye".

The Fact is:
A "Cold War"...Between Democrats and Republicans has been Brewing For Years.

The Fact is:
The BREW has Been Kindled...
The REVEAL is coming.

1 John 2:
[4] Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendshp "of" the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend "of" the world is the enemy "of" God.

BE Thankful, you are "Ye" and not "Them".
Bless the Lord God, Trust God, He IS IN Control.

Glory to God,
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Amen.
When President Trump is declared the winner, and I say when because I believe in the power of prayer against all enemies foreign and domestic, and in this election those have certainly come forth trying to steal our Democracy, imagine the shock the enemies will undergo.
All their denials about evidence will be seen for what it was, subterfuge and an outright lie. All their efforts to steal this election through tampering, hiding bags of ballots, etc... uncovered, exposed, will show how desperate those culprits were to steal our Democracy and hand our nation to the corrupt traitors of liberty and a free Democratic election.

They are losers. And when Trump is rightly legally declared the winner in his re-election bid, they will be told that in no uncertain terms.

That's when we should really pray. Because when they couldn't get him out this way they may resort to another.
God protect President Trump and his family and VP Pence and his family.
I agree with what I've read elsewhere, they are no longer Democrats but have fallen to Satan and thus are now part of his fallen. Now they are, Demoncrats.

Their behavior reiterates that I think.

By the way, anyone remember in the 2016 election cycle it was revealed the Democrats hired shills to join social media sites and forums with political discussion boards in order to instigate drama and impart a false narrative and Democrat propaganda?
Remember that?

I don't think it stopped in 2016. ;)
 

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This theft of the election was in the works for years most likely.
This from October of this year.
Judicial Watch: Pennsylvania Counties Admit They Gave Incorrect Voter Roll Information to Federal Government – Disclose Conflicting Numbers of Inactive Voters to Court - Judicial Watch

I just was listening to this. Amazing!
Agreed. I love how Rudy cuts out the nonsense media rhetoric, no evidence. I especially like how he said with regard to the numerous affidavits they have on file regarding evidence of voting mismanagement and fraud, when you , the press and others, say there is no evidence, given all those affidavits, you're lying!

You're lying!
Well said sir.

Adding: I love the woman near the end. The blond. I'm watching this in the small frame here at the site.She's a firecracker. I love it.
 
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Whatever and I don't think that I said that Hillary was a communist. :rolleyes: (Although clearly she is lol)
You did say it and clearly she is not. The only funny thing here is that right-wing echo-chambers say Democrats are Commies only to say in the very next breath that Democrats are elitist and in the pocket of wall-street. Whichever dirt may stick.

If all somebody’s got for their political opponents is slander, lies, misrepresentation and hyperbole it makes me think they probably don’t have very many good arguments when it comes to actual political issues.
 
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Geographic distance matters a good bit, as spending in one region doesn't help everyone in the country. One need only look around washington DC and see the windfall of all the government spending upon the surrounding counties. Regional representation is necessary to prevent suppression of the people. Further, the districts all throughout the US are gerrymandered in a incongruous patchwork that undermines the intent of the framers for the house of representatives. We need a constitutional amendment to keep states from gerrymandering districts.

Nothing is stopping reform, an amendment to the constitution may be proposed by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote. Which means nothing changes because one side always benefits from it.

Also it is the Majority in the cities suppressing the minority in the country.
Well, my federal tax money goes into funding places such as rural/low income Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. And I would have supposed it works along similar lines in the US. Quickly looked it up, and indeed it does:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...more-to-federal-government-than-they-get-back

However, I’m glad we seem to agree on gerrymandering.

As for how hard it is to amend the constitution: Here in Germany it’s also hard to get the necessary majority for that. But thankfully our electoral system does not lend itself to a highly partisan two-party political landscape. Our governments on a state and federal level are almost always formed by coalitions, so the ability to reach compromise is a core qualification for politicians here.

I do pray you’ll manage to overcome your divisions in the US. They’ve reached truly unhealthy levels.

God bless
 
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It seems that you only trust a left wing media that was 100% against Trump and attacked him night and day for four years. And who only want to tell you what they want you to know. They don't want you to hear ALL the facts.

Well, I make a point of consuming both conservative and liberal leaning media. They report the same facts, but may have a different take on them. What they don't dabble in are unverifiable conspiracy-theories.
And I remember watching the “Der Schwarze Kanal” when I was young and visited relatives in the GDR (Der schwarze Kanal - Wikipedia) . I found its propaganda extremely amusing.
So guess what the reporting in networks Trump praises these days reminds me of.

The sad thing is that a lot of Trumps supporters actually want to consume nothing but propaganda. Why else denounce FoxNews as soon as it dares to disagree with him?
 
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Shocking Video Of Joe Biden Groping Children and sniffing girl's hair emerges
I understand the creepy pedophile thing, but can someone explain to me the hair sniffing
thing?
Super creep! Super creep! Warning he attacks from behind!


Creepy uncle Joe. He's a pervert.
 

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Ohhh my!!! I guess you are not paying attention to what is going on? Keep talking...I have a sense of humor...how ever odd....lol Do you need a scope for that shot in the foot?

Let me get this straight. You believe the case for the fraud on a massive scale is becoming clearer when case after case is getting dismissed from courts through lack of evidence.

The press is starting to say Trump is lying and the rest of the team.
When Rudy starts to say democrats are crooks and Biden should regret his crimes this is going nuts in terms of language. There are courts for a reason and cases cannot be brought and have any progress unless there is evidence. And there will always be evidence of minor failings and procedural issues.

In most elections and situations this does not matter because it affects such a small group and does not affect the outcome. There are two different parallel reporting groups, where the NPD is supporting the rise of the idea of massive fraud. One case is a guy reading the manual on the counting machine and saying how easy it would be if you had a key with the right codes to hack a machine. Now it is true you can hack a machine with the right codes, like you can break into a bank, or any other software system with the password. The question is did anyone do this, not is it possible.

And shooting myself in the foot? I have nothing to lose, I am in the UK not the US. I am just giving a commentary on what is actually taking place and what has been proved. Once you enter the world of someone said this happened so it is true, you are victim to every rumour under the sun. There are many actors in this battle and many liars. Jesus called us to be as innocent as doves and wise as serpents. Putting it another way is only reacting to proven news, and waiting until something is actually shown and not just an allegation.

When Rudy says crooks, mistake. When Sidney says evidence like a fire hose, mistake. Without proof this is liable slander. When people are getting death threats because of these statements, this is dangerous and insane provocation. Truth is when you describe something it is because you have factual information to back it up or it is a suggestion or if you think it is real, a delusion and a lie.

So when president Trump says he has won, what he is saying is he thinks he has won, the figures say otherwise.
If he continues with the idea he has won, he becomes a liar. When Rudy says there is massive fraud across the whole country done by democrats, without evidence that is a lie and he becomes a liar. The reason people do not go down this route because it only leads to grief and problems with no benefits. It is literally a fools paradise.

Liars unfortunately end up believing their own lies and cannot tell what is true and what is delusion. It is the beginning of insanity. And as far as patience goes, when you lie to judges and they dismiss the cases, and yet you continue as if you are speaking the truth, the police will get involved and contempt actions will begin. You cannot challenge the state and make it your enemy, because you will lose. The state has unlimited resources and does not forgive easily. It is why not paying your taxes becomes as serious problem, because they do not stop coming, or will they once they have the scent. I would say the rubric as one would say is starting to be crossed.

If Georgia is confirmed in the recount and Williamsport is a dismissal, the end of the road has been reached. You could argue that there is limited fraud in some locations but no longer across the country and in Georgia. It then becomes slander if one continues.

This is the problem of echo chambers, and people who think they exert power when it has always been the institutions of state that make or break people. And the institutions are patient, they can wait until people go too far and become the reality of what they are. In an ironic way the Lord does the same.

God bless you
 

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Let me get this straight. You believe the case for the fraud on a massive scale is becoming clearer when case after case is getting dismissed from courts through lack of evidence.

Giuliani answered this exact question in the 3 hour press conference. Why not watch it and learn the real answer.
 
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