(thesuperjag;18898)
And did you forget that poor thief that was never been able to get a chance to be water baptized like the others? Is he saved?Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
I addressed this earlier in the thread but I don't think that I explained it enough, here is what I wrote earlier about the theif
First of all, the new covanent wasn't in effect yet because Christ had not died yet.(Heb. 9:16)Also, you are kinda underestimating the Son of God, he had the power to say to anybody, your sins are forgiven, and then they would be forgiven right then. He did it several times in him ministry. (matthew 9:1-7) Its kinda like a last will and testament. if I had a lot of money, or land or something. while I was alive, and on earth, I could do with it as I please and give to whoever I want, but once I die, in order to recieve the gift you have to obey all the things that the testament says in order to receive it. and baptism is a thing that has been commanded time and time again in the scriptures.
Christ had the ability to go to anybody and say go your sins are forgiven and guess what that persons sins are now forgiven.the new testament wasn't in effect yet as well, in hebrews 9:16-17 we are told that there cannot be a testament without the death of a testator(Christ)the theif was forgiven his sins before Christ died. The church wasn't established untilt the day of pentecost when peter preached the first gospel sermon in Acts Chapter 2and after the sermon, they were pricked in their hearts and wanted to know what to do.Acts 2:37-3837. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?38. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.With Love in Christ our Savior,Dustin Humphreys