Rattling Russia

[Christina]

US AND POLAND INK MISSILE DEAL, RATTLING RUSSIAAugust 15, 2008The EU Observer reports: “The US and Poland have agreed to put part of a US global missile shield and new anti-aircraft defenses on Polish soil, in a move further aggravating east-west relations amid the fallout from Russia's incursion into Georgia.The deal - initialled in Warsaw on Thursday (14 August), but still subject to negotiation on ‘technical details’ - will see 10 long-range Interceptor missiles installed on the Baltic Sea coast by 2012 to help defend the US and Europe against attacks from ‘rogue states.’The pact will also see one US-controlled unit of 96 short-range Patriot missiles accompanied by 110 US soldiers moved from Germany to Poland. And it contains a clause obliging US military support in the event of attack by a third party, governed by a process which is faster than the NATO solidarity clause.‘The Poles do not want to be in alliances in which assistance comes at some point later - it is no good when assistance comes to dead people,’ Polish prime minister, Donald Tusk, said on Polish TV. ‘Poland wants to be in alliances where assistance comes in the very first hours of - knock on wood - any possible conflict.’The Polish foreign minister and White House spokesmen denied that the breakthrough, which comes after 18 months of talks, was connected to Russia's attack on Georgia last week. But the Polish defence minister, Bogdan Klich, and US officials made the link.‘Above all, it seems that the Americans changed their opinion as a result of the situation in the Caucasus,’ Mr. Klich said in Polish daily Dziennik. The Georgia conflict ‘pushed the Poles, to be very frank,’ a US official told the Wall Street Journal. ‘It sends a signal to Moscow that people are not going to be intimidated.’The US missile deal had an instant impact on already fragile Polish-Russian relations, with Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, cancelling a scheduled trip to Warsaw in September as soon as media reported the initialling ceremony would take place.Russia says the Polish missile base is designed to help neutralise its nuclear arsenal, instead of rockets from states such as Iran or North Korea…”--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Christina]

Adding fuel to the fire it would seem

 

[Christina]

RUSSIAN OFFICIALS: US MISSILE SHIELD AIMED AT RUSSIAAugust 15, 2008Voice of America News reports: “Top Russian officials say it is now clear that a proposed U.S. missile defense system in eastern Europe is aimed at Russia.The officials say Friday the speed in which U.S. and Polish negotiators reached an agreement on the proposed system - during the mounting crisis with Georgia - proves it is not related to any missile threat from Iran.A top Russian general, General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, also said the U.S.-Polish agreement is aggravating already strained relations between Moscow and Washington.U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, in the Georgian capital Tblisi, says she hopes to sign the missile shield treaty soon.U.S. and Polish negotiators reached a preliminary agreement Thursday to deploy part of the U.S. missile defense system in Poland.Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov immediately reacted by canceling a planned visit to Poland next month. Russia sees the missile system as a threat to its security…”

 

[Christina]

Whoa Fox news is reporting a Russian General is implying a Nuclear attack would be considered against Poland/Eastern Europe for agreeing to this Missile shield. __________________'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan:

 

[Jordan]

(kriss;56863)
Whoa Fox news is reporting a Russian General is implying a Nuclear attack would be considered against Poland/Eastern Europe for agreeing to this Missile shield. __________________'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan:
Yea that's sounds about right about Rosh / Esau / king of the North etc... but one question... Book, chapter and verse number please... Trying to find it. Thanks!

 

[Christina]

(kriss;56863)
Whoa Fox news is reporting a Russian General is implying a Nuclear attack would be considered against Poland/Eastern Europe for agreeing to this Missile shield. __________________'Thus says the Lord God: "On that day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan:
heres the news story'Russia threatens Poland with attack'Aug. 15, 2008Associated Press , THE JERUSALEM POST A top Russian general said Friday that Poland's agreement to accept a US missile defense battery exposes the country to attack, pointing out that Russian military doctrine permits the use of nuclear weapons in such a situation, the Interfax news agency reported. The statement by Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn is the strongest threat that Russia has issued against the plans to put missile defense elements in former Soviet satellite nations. Poland and the United States on Thursday signed a deal for Poland to accept a missile defense battery as part of a system the United States says is aimed at blocking attacks by rogue nations but that Moscow claims is aimed at weakening Russia. "Poland, by deploying [the system] is exposing itself to a strike - 100 percent," Nogovitsyn, the deputy chief of staff, was quoted as saying. Interfax said he added, in clear reference to the agreement, that Russia's military doctrine sanctions the use of nuclear weapons "against the allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them." Nogovitsyn said that would include elements of strategic deterrence systems, according to Interfax. Hours later, a news agency quoted Poland's foreign minister as saying that Warsaw was willing to let Russia inspect the future missile defense base. The Polish news agency PAP quoted Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski as saying Friday that Poland was open to Russian inspections because it wanted to give Moscow "tangible proof" that the planned base was not directed against Russia. At a news conference earlier Friday, Nogovitsyn had reiterated Russia's frequently stated warning that placing missile-defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic would bring an unspecified military response. But his subsequent reported statement substantially stepped up a war of words. Tensions between Russia and the West have soared over the brutal fighting that erupted last week between Russian and Georgian forces over the separatist Georgian region of South Ossetia. Russian forces went deep into Georgia in the fighting, raising wide concerns that Russia could be seeking to occupy parts of its small, pro-US neighbor, which has vigorously lobbied to join NATO, or even to force its government to collapse. Under the agreement that Warsaw and Washington reached Thursday, Poland will accept an American missile interceptor base. "We have crossed the Rubicon," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said, referring to US consent to Poland's demands after more than 18 months of negotiations. Washington says the planned system, which is not yet operational, is needed to protect the US and Europe from possible attacks by missile-armed "rogue states" like Iran. The Kremlin, however, feels it is aimed at Russia's missile force and warns it will worsen tensions. In an interview on Poland's news channel TVN24, Tusk said the United States agreed to help augment Poland's defenses with Patriot missiles in exchange for placing 10 missile defense interceptors in the Eastern European country. He said the deal also includes a "mutual commitment" between the two nations to come to each other's assistance "in case of trouble." That clause appeared to be a direct reference to Russia. Poland has all along been guided by fears of a newly resurgent Russia, an anxiety that has intensified with Russia's offensive in Georgia. In past days, Polish leaders said that fighting justified Poland's demands that it get additional security guarantees from Washington in exchange for allowing the anti-missile base on its soil.

 

[Christina]

(thesuperjag;56868)
Yea that's sounds about right about Rosh / Esau / king of the North etc... but one question... Book, chapter and verse number please... Trying to find it. Thanks!
Eze 38 Jag

 

[Alpha and Omega]

Hey Kriss could you post links from where you get all your news from? thank you kindly. Not this one in particular I had a friend that sent me the link before I read it here but just for future reference.

 

[crooner]

This could be a begining of new problems for us. God has total control of our leaders for our own goodGod controls the leaders of the world.

 

[Wakka]

Fox news, Cnn, Reuters = Propaganda machine.

 

[Christina]

(Alpha and Omega;56884)
Hey Kriss could you post links from where you get all your news from? thank you kindly. Not this one in particular I had a friend that sent me the link before I read it here but just for future reference.
Sorry Alpha its a state secret:)Just kidding I follow lots of news sights like Cnn and Fox news but I like getting news alot from outside the US I use the following sites alot my favorite is Debaka because they are ahead on many things and very accuratehttp://www.jpost.com/http://www.debka.com/index1.phphttp://uk.reuters.com/