Not necessarily. Regarding my phrase 'not many people', I was referring specifically to this current time. Historically, I was referring to those who translated and preserved the bible, and those who preserved the faith by separating from the status quo that sought to destroy it. These people were involved with religion to one degree or another. It was not the every-man-for-himself, kind of thing we have going on today.jiggyfly said:Would this not many people be the same like-minded people that you believe preserved our liberty to grow spiritually?
Than I see something much different in religion and it's history than you.
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Are you suggesting that it is because of religion and that without religion one will lose their way?ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Gee, I thought love was the language of faith.aspen2 said:
Gal_5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
So, where did the crazy catholic go? Drops a "spam" bomb and splits?
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Why are you baiting me Axehead? Seems out of character.Axehead said:
The very concept of Christian love would be unknown without the language of religion.
Then you misunderstood, me. I took the opportunity to give the Biblical definition.aspen2 said:
Religion has way too broad of a meaning, anyway. A person can be religious about almost anything.
The very concept of Christian love would be unknown without Jesus Christ.
Too many "languages" of religions have participated in anything but love.
God uses religion...as a carrier of a truth that they themselves don't really understand. Religion has it's own agenda. But God is sovereign and will use religion in order to preserve His words that bring life to many.
The irony is that it is the religious institutions that ultimately persecute the people of God. They claim that the saints have got it wrong. Oh, the irony!
Here is an analogy that puts the best possible spin on religion. Religion is like a dad who teaches his son about say...baseball. Now the son picks up the game quickly and becomes a better player than his dad...having more athletic ability and a better grasp of the game. When the boy reaches manhood he ends up playing in the major leagues.
Now the analogy breaks down because in this world, success is visible...as in the father can be proud of his son even though the son far exceeds the dad in talent and ability. But in the religious sphere (actually spiritual sphere) where the success is INVISIBLE to the eye...as in the big leagues of the heart before the Lord...the dad will come harder and harder against a young one who no longer follows his instructions. The dad may know a little about baseball but a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
The dad will invariably see the growth in his son, although it is growth in the Lord, as a personal insult against his own methods. Enter religious persecution.
The irony is that it is the religious institutions that ultimately persecute the people of God. They claim that the saints have got it wrong. Oh, the irony!
Here is an analogy that puts the best possible spin on religion. Religion is like a dad who teaches his son about say...baseball. Now the son picks up the game quickly and becomes a better player than his dad...having more athletic ability and a better grasp of the game. When the boy reaches manhood he ends up playing in the major leagues.
Now the analogy breaks down because in this world, success is visible...as in the father can be proud of his son even though the son far exceeds the dad in talent and ability. But in the religious sphere (actually spiritual sphere) where the success is INVISIBLE to the eye...as in the big leagues of the heart before the Lord...the dad will come harder and harder against a young one who no longer follows his instructions. The dad may know a little about baseball but a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
The dad will invariably see the growth in his son, although it is growth in the Lord, as a personal insult against his own methods. Enter religious persecution.
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Axehead said:
It is very possible that I misunderstood you - I was reading the post on my phone - thanks for clarifying.
I see religion on language - it constructed of words - words used to express our response towards God and He uses it to communicate with us. There is nothing inherently wrong with religion as language. The problem is when we restrict it to language and untried concepts like the Pharisees rather than living it like Christ.
Matt 6 :
After this manner therefore pray ye:
Our Father which art in Heaven…
Our Father is God in Heaven, not an elected Pope in Vatican City.
Our Father God in Heaven is not an earthly created and made saint.
Praying is exclusively taught in Gods Word to Pray TO God Only, (not a suggestion!)
Saints in Heaven taking prayer requests is a False Teaching concocted by False Teachers.
You gave an excessive commentary finger pointing your criticism of other denominations, while obviously ignoring your own denominations false teaching.
Glory to God,
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