Thank you Christina, there is nothing more greater than other verses to make some other verses more clear, the only way God's words should ever be handle. From these verses it is clear, where Joseph is used in Rev.7:8 it would have been a better interpretation to have written Ephraim instead of Joseph. But God is who makesthe call of the verses and it is up to us to search out the rest of the bible for the clarity. VickieThis verse 23 places this event in the future at Christs Return.Ephraim carries the stick of Josephwhen Christ returns and he always has as Jordan said son of my right hand he was given the inheratance .....